cidered abroad Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Yes you would expect a home player to enter/exit the field through his own fans. Another idea re removeable banners etc. why do they have to be removed? Can they not just be covered over with the black netting stuff? This netting can be raised or lowered like a curtain. If not black netting then a flag like banner with the club crest on or something. This would save the hassle of everything having to be removed and put up again every match, and almost eliminate the need for storage. Removal needed to use the seats at rugby, certainly next season and maybe thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Never been in favour of giving away fans a prime position behind the goal and having them directly above the tunnel has been nothing short of ridiculous. For next season at least this way of splitting the Atyeo looks ideal, it's been shown to be a potentially noisy area. The future in the completed rebuild should see City fans excusively behind both goals - having any away fans there diminishes home advantage, and many clubs have realised this and restored home fans to those areas accordingly. Where will the away fans go? As far away from the action, and as far out of sight as possible. With the Williams yet to be built it really shouldn't be difficult to tweak plans to accommodate them in the top tier which is unlikely to be a popular area for City fans anyway. How many will the Williams top tier hold? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Removal needed to use the seats at rugby, certainly next season and maybe thereafter. Oh right. I thought the artwork and banners were on the walls at the back of the stand not the seats? Anyway I thought the Rugby fans stood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Well think I will lose my seat of 18 years if this happens....but....I think it's a brilliant idea. We need some atmosphere back at the gate and this is the best idea. Good work City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Looks a good idea to me Intact has potential to be cracking Displays etc would be very prominent on tv etc as close to tunnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Makes sense. Not sure anyone could realistically object to a sensible solution like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Great idea, best one possible. For me it's the best chance there was to recreate to an extent the Eastend atmosphere! The right size stand as well so it will be packed every game rather than if it was the South Stand where there would not be enough like minded people to fill it. Only concern is prices staying lower. This can lead to people going there purely for the cheaper price with no intention of actually joining in. However apart from that. Good job! What so if you are elderly, deaf, half blind or simply do not want to sing you gotta pay more? I think you should re-word your remark there fella. Anyway, the club would never have that area as solely the cheapest in the ground for the very reason i point out... would they? No surely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Let's give the club some credit for this. It's not perfect but it's probably the best given the circumstances with the ground redevelopment. I know some fans don't like the Atyeo stand, but the Wedlock's gone, and it's not coming back. It sounds as though the club will take a relaxed attitude with the Atyeo, which is what many fans want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 This seems to be a major change in direction, so is this proposal being communicated to all supporters or just those who use OTIB. This plan should state what is to happen for next season, but also for future seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Assume this section would be season ticket holders only, otherwise the club wouldn't be able to fleece visiting supporters for a top price ticket on an equivalent view basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Good idea. Having the most vocal group of fans next to the away end is perfect for atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMS Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 What so if you are elderly, deaf, half blind or simply do not want to sing you gotta pay more? I think you should re-word your remark there fella. Anyway, the club would never have that area as solely the cheapest in the ground for the very reason i point out... would they? No surely not. The current Williams singing section was tagged that by the club not fans. It was not a helpful description. Those who will actively be backing this discounted Atyeo section need to clearly define what their intent is. The move into the Eastend in 2007 was about more than atmosphere. It was about being inclusive - Many would have started as fans with Uncles and Grandads taking them into the Eastend. It may be of more benefit to forget reference to that stand in 2015. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Short term I think it is a good move. But in the long run I would much prefer a "home end" where we are not limited by netting and change of rules for the cup. An end we can make ours and not share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I liek the idea, with just 2 more changes:- Take the roof off Put up some railings Ah, back to the joys of mid-1980's footy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 This seems to be a major change in direction, so is this proposal being communicated to all supporters or just those who use OTIB. This plan should state what is to happen for next season, but also for future seasons.As it looks to me; Bristol Sport have consulted with supporters, have put forward a proposal for supporters to go away and mull over, otib is being used as one utensil to canvass opinion and then the generally accepted view will be put back. The approach is classically technocratic but I have to say, for one who has been outspokenly worried about the new (BS) model, it really is warming my ice. Think we have to accept that the Bristol Sport brand is for potential cooperate investors (which will be to the benefit of the club). Bristol Sport working with supporters is looking to me like a positive swerve (to use their language). They have made gaffs, but they seem to be understanding that and putting things right. Have to say I'm impressed by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 As an outcome the worst part of the ground and worst facilities again after all the "engaging" rhetoric could be considered a mediocre outcome - The price reflects that. Unfortunately that remark may come over as a bit petulant and spoilt to any of the many Atyeo season ticket holders who will be moved out to accommodate this section and who have always paid a higher ticket rate. I know fans have not asked for discounted tickets here, but the club are offering them for seats in a stand that is hardly non-league standard where facilities will be improved further. If they could throw in free beer and chauffeur transport to and from games would it make it more acceptable, or is that irrelevant because the club/manager thought of the idea, not you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMS Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 As it looks to me; Bristol Sport have consulted with supporters, have put forward a proposal for supporters to go away and mull over, otib is being used as one utensil to canvass opinion and then the generally accepted view will be put back. Define consultation? It should be two way dialogue. This was not mentioned at the DEH, 3 Lions or at any consultation in the last two years. Everything has been rejected unless it fits within the BS idea, or has it? Who knows. Nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 It can't be cheaper than it is now, unless the rest of the prices around the ground don't increase? I am expecting a rise in prices (especially if promoted) and with this in mind prices for this section will then perhaps remain the same as this season? Whatever happens it will have to be quick decision won't it, I thought details of next seasons ST's were due out soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZepperin Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Think we have to accept that the Bristol Sport brand is for potential cooperate investors (which will be to the benefit of the club). [i assume you mean corporate investors.] Was it suggested at the meeting that SL is looking for corporate investment (i.e. buying of shares) or corporate sponsorship? Not being picky. Genuinely inerested to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Define consultation? It should be two way dialogue. This was not mentioned at the DEH, 3 Lions or at any consultation in the last two years. Everything has been rejected unless it fits within the BS idea, or has it? Who knows. Nobody. Is the question here 'who knows?' Or is it 'who cares?' The club have proposed a relaxed singing/standing/ultra flag waving area in a stand that most closely resembles the old east end. This during a period of redevelopment must be far better than most people hoped, so I don't understand the reluctance to embrace and celebrate this offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 How about calling it the : 'The ParkCiders' ( can you see what I did there?) Anyway- great idea, perfect short term if not long term solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Taylor is GOD Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Short term I think it is a good move. But in the long run I would much prefer a "home end" where we are not limited by netting and change of rules for the cup. An end we can make ours and not share. Is this just for next season? What happens when Williams completed, capacity is higher and so away fans are allowed more seats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Yep, I'm in favour. Will make it easier for me to dog up the away fans from the Dolman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMS Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Unfortunately that remark may come over as a bit petulant and spoilt to any of the many Atyeo season ticket holders who will be moved out to accommodate this section and who have always paid a higher ticket rate. I know fans have not asked for discounted tickets here, but the club are offering them for seats in a stand that is hardly non-league standard where facilities will be improved further. If they could throw in free beer and chauffeur transport to and from games would it make it more acceptable, or is that irrelevant because the club/manager thought of the idea, not you... All the ideas there are plagarised off fans and shoehorned into just ONE section of the ground. The ideas discussed were for other stands not the Atyeo. The reason no fans group did not propose turning that Atyeo section into a quasi singing [?] what ever it is based upon the same reasons prices will be higher at the other end. It will have the poorest view and poorest facilities. The discounted price must reflect that? Last weekend Bristol City fans including those in their seventies, members of the Lansdown club saw facilities / ideas at a Dutch club that can enliven stands here. What is important is that the Atyeo is not used as mean to shut down fans initiative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 [i assume you mean corporate investors.] Was it suggested at the meeting that SL is looking for corporate investment (i.e. buying of shares) or corporate sponsorship? Not being picky. Genuinely inerested to know.Appreciate this runs at deeper levels, I want to be actively supporting Bristol City FC and do not appreciate the team bus being paced in other crests (Bristol Rugby, Bristol Sport etc). I'm a City fan and that is all. Have full empathy for those who worry about the politics and people that have the emotional investment dating back to 1982 and beyond. I suspect SL is looking for corporate sponsorship, to answer the question, but don't know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZepperin Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 To be fair the Bristol Sport model/idea could be a meeting all on it's own so if you want to meet up with them the offer for that is there. Another option is to have people actually replying to some of these written questions, in writing. If only there was a website or a forum for this, or a supporters' liaison officer with an Internet connection. Anyway. I believe that a meeting between the SC&T and someone who can provide answers to all these BS-related questions is way, way overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I'm torn. I really like the idea, and I will go where ever the "singing" section is. However, I really wanted to sit in the new stand and try out the new facilities - but if there's no atmosphere there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Appreciate this runs at deeper levels, I want to be actively supporting Bristol City FC and do not appreciate the team bus being paced in other crests (Bristol Rugby, Bristol Sport etc). I'm a City fan and that is all. Have full empathy for those who worry about the politics and people that have the emotional investment dating back to 1982 and beyond. I suspect SL is looking for corporate sponsorship, to answer the question, but don't know that So the previous coach with no logo at all was better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Another option is to have people actually replying to some of these written questions, in writing. If only there was a website or a forum for this, or a supporters' liaison officer with an Internet connection. Anyway. I believe that a meeting between the SC&T and someone who can provide answers to all these BS-related questions is way, way overdue. Yep some fair points. All the ideas there are plagarised off fans and shoehorned into just ONE section of the ground. The ideas discussed were for other stands not the Atyeo. The reason no fans group did not propose turning that Atyeo section into a quasi singing [?] what ever it is based upon the same reasons prices will be higher at the other end. It will have the poorest view and poorest facilities. The discounted price must reflect that? Last weekend Bristol City fans including those in their seventies, members of the Lansdown club saw facilities / ideas at a Dutch club that can enliven stands here. What is important is that the Atyeo is not used as mean to shut down fans initiative. There should be further questions asked on detail as i agree the Atyeo should not be used as mean to shut down fans initiative but part of a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 No bother to me, but interesting to put away fans in the corner where there will be streams of Dolman'ers right next to them during the game and at HT etc. Spitting distance, to coin a phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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