UK0wnag3 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I wholeheartedly agree with the facet that, as was the case against Burnley, some Saturday's I work in the morning, rush to the game and then have to rush to get back to work after the game. I'm sure my boss will be fine if I tell him that Cotts wanted me to stay until the very end, so that's why I'm late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City_pete1 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I recall gary J saying something similar in an interview once, when he was here... They must think it has an impact on the team and potential final results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Clearly It affects the players and staff, can you imagine doing everything you can to score a goal/get a point and you see stream load of fans leaving beforehand?If they're really doing everything they can to salvage something from a bad situation then surely they would be concentrating on the game not watching a handful of supporters slipping discreetly out of the stadium ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 "RedDave says concentrate on getting clean sheets, concentrate on getting clean sheets, concentrate on getting clean sheets" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 You and me both. I really do wonder where this view comes from (perhaps all clubs' fans wear the same rose tinted specs). We do not have some of the best support outside of the Premier League. The atmosphere at the Gate sometimes is dreadful and is something we could all help to change (me included), but if the game is flat you can bet your arse the atmosphere will be. We seem to be a fan base that needs to be encouraged by a good performance rather than seeing a poor/average performance as something that supporters can affect by rousing the team.We are certainly reactive supporters rather than proactive.We certainly are a 'sing when your winning club'.Having said that, the ground is hardly conducive to a great atmosphere atm.I remember being in my teens and singing my head off...but that all stopped when I realised I preferred watching the game, instead of jumping around and chanting.I look around the ground and see a majority of generations far older than me...many struggling to walk let alone sing.Many I see leaving early are either very old or have very young children...they obviously do it to avoid the 'crush'.Either way, it must be demoralising as a player to see streams of people leaving. So I see SC's point...it's swings and roundabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I've never stay to the end of anything. Why do I need to watch the end of Titanic to know that Rose and Jack got saved and lived happy every after or the end of Planet of The Apes to know that Charlton Heston never made it back to Earth!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I've never stay to the end of anything. Why do I need to watch the end of Titanic to know that Rose and Jack got saved and lived happy every after or the end of Planet of The Apes to know that Charlton Heston never made it back to Earth!!Jack didn't live happy ever after though, he contracted herpes from Rose and had his knob chopped off. It was grisly so think yourself luck you never watched it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hantsred Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I would rather the club canvas supporters more in-depth about their reasons for leaving early rather than SC openly begging supporters not to do so. As mentioned there are so many views on this from what the state is of the match, stadium/stand design/exit queues, age, size, transport links and personal/competitive/ocd desire to get out before others! In fact a general survey of matchday experience would be good timing with the new stadium .. kill two birds and all that .I remember Anfield empting when we were 1-0 up back in the 90's and their support is considered right up there - so I dont think it is particular issue to just us. Majority of the kop still stayed to applaud Tinnion and company though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I'm surprised no one has bought this up before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Do you leave the cinema early if you work out the twist at the end?No but i'll leave if it's a load of shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jimmer Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 It is hilarious how many times this debate has come up, and the same old classic responses. Guilty as charged I guess.Where is Robbored when you need him??ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 city fan says.........sort out naieve defending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 It is hilarious how many times this debate has come up, and the same old classic responses. Guilty as charged I guess.Where is Robbored when you need him??ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZGood way to wade into a debate and then get out quick when you don't like the response. If it's that boring, no one forced you to get involved in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Didn't realise that Will Young was a Dolman ST holder and wrote about this phenomenon. I think I'd better leave right nowBefore we drop any deeperI think I'd better leave right nowDefence getting weaker and weakerSomebody better show me outBefore I fall any deeperI think I'd better leave right now I'm here so please explainWhy you're opening the exits early againI'm a little more carefulPerhaps it showsBut if I lose the highs, at least I'm spared the lows Now I'm trembling in my armsWhat could be the harmTo feel my spirit calmSo I say.. I think I'd better leave right nowBefore we drop any deeperI think I'd better leave right nowDefence getting weaker and weakerSomebody better show me outBefore I fall any deeperI think I'd better leave right now I wouldn't know how to sayHow good it’d feel to see us win todayI see that Cott’s got his smile backLike you say we’re right on trackBut you may never know whyOnce bitten twice is shyIf I'm proud perhaps I should explainI couldn't bear to lose at home again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 It is hilarious how many times this debate has come up, and the same old classic responses. Guilty as charged I guess.Where is Robbored when you need him??ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZIndeed. The fact is, at any event attended by 1000's a certain percentage will leave early to beat the rush (and no, this doesn't include cinemas and theatres). Always been the same, always will. Not worth arguing about really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Perhaps if the fans had a reason to stay they would. You're not going to keep everyone in the ground when the teams losing come the 90th minute. we had people leaving in droves when we walked the league. Don't get it, if football is such a chore why go in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jimmer Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Good way to wade into a debate and then get out quick when you don't like the response. If it's that boring, no one forced you to get involved in the first place.Not at all, I just thought our argument had come to an end. I am not insulted or anything by SC's comments, i just find it strange he would get involved and find it a bit patronizing.In all honesty, I think that fans support contributes a tiny percentage of a teams performance. When there are so many complex factors that go into winning a game of football I find it a bit ridiculous when people suggest that fans staying till the end is going to make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Not at all, I just thought our argument had come to an end. I am not insulted or anything by SC's comments, i just find it strange he would get involved and find it a bit patronizing.In all honesty, I think that fans support contributes a tiny percentage of a teams performance. When there are so many complex factors that go into winning a game of football I find it a bit ridiculous when people suggest that fans staying till the end is going to make a difference.Fair enough. Having known a couple of pros personally at different times I can assure you it does make a difference psychologically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between heaven and hell Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Jack didn't live happy ever after though, he contracted herpes from Rose and had his knob chopped off. It was grisly so think yourself luck you never watched it.I thought his-knob was saved in the end because he soaked it in salt water! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I`ve been one of the last dozen or so to leave and the first dozen or so to leave, i.m.o its up to me not anyone else. Mr SC I`ve supported this my club for 50yrs I didn't see you on the coach to Blackpool on a wet Tues night about 45yrs ago, so don't tell me what to do, you are just passing through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Mr SC I`ve supported this my club for 50yrs I didn't see you on the coach to Blackpool on a wet Tues night about 45yrs ago, so don't tell me what to do, you are just passing through it.Don't be so precious! He's not taking a personal shot, he's saying your support helps. Jeeeeeeeeeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 People can still enjoy a match and support the team even if they only stay for 80 minutes. But rather than get held up by the throng of people all leaving with ten minutes to go, why not instead skip the first ten minutes, or leave part way through the game then pop back for the remainder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I've never stay to the end of anything. Why do I need to watch the end of Titanic to know that Rose and Jack got saved and lived happy every after or the end of Planet of The Apes to know that Charlton Heston never made it back to Earth!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 People can still enjoy a match and support the team even if they only stay for 80 minutes. But rather than get held up by the throng of people all leaving with ten minutes to go, why not instead skip the first ten minutes, or leave part way through the game then pop back for the remainder?sounds a good reason to leave early , must be flippin painful to be held up by the throng , speaking as a non-medical man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 It's a fair comment and it must be discouraging as a player to see your fans walk out when you are trying to give your all (i.e Leeds game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I always leave ten minutes before the match , that way i can be home in time to catch the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Well hey, as long as that bar in the concourse keeps doing £2 pints after the game I'll be staying until the end!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Do you leave the cinema early if you work out the twist at the end?I used to leave the cinema early to avoid standing for the National Anthem and thereby missing Closing Time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 As a chant; "Cotterill says stay until the end" doesn't have the same feel about it as "Johnson says bounce around the ground" does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Me. He's talking about me.I leave early most games and yes I do miss goals. But if I stay til the end it means an extra half an hour before I get home.But don't worry, I am not expecting a refund of my season ticket for all those minutes I miss, nor do I want to put in an expenses claim for turning up way before the start of the match so I can park either. I pay my money, and I know what I am getting, sorry for being such a selfish bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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