ThOmO Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, hodge said: Just by the wording it sounds like Wes could be offered a new deal, LJ wants to see how he does in regular first team action in the division below, better than doing nothing for us in the mean time, if he does well expect him to be given a new deal. Reid may depend on how LJ wants to play, 2 upfront may mean a central midfield 2, Reid potentially too lightweight for that role? The club have the option of a further year already in existing contract, from memory Djb confirmed this last month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 1 minute ago, ThOmO said: The club have the option of a further year already in existing contract, from memory Djb confirmed this last month Must have missed that. If so, then best of luck to Wes and hope he comes back a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 1 minute ago, ThOmO said: The club have the option of a further year already in existing contract, from memory Djb confirmed this last month Yeah don't see how there's a that much of a downside for us, if he's not playing for us, it means we get a good idea of how he can do in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThOmO Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Clearly not going to get game time here except apart from sub appearances this season. go to fleetwood, score some goals and maybe force his way into Wales squad. seems sensible for all concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, ThOmO said: Clearly not going to get game time here except apart from sub appearances this season. go to fleetwood, score some goals and maybe force his way into Wales squad. seems sensible for all concerned What a good experience that could be for him...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 16, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 21 minutes ago, ThOmO said: Clearly not going to get game time here except apart from sub appearances this season. go to fleetwood, score some goals and maybe force his way into Wales squad. seems sensible for all concerned This possibly has more to do with why the deal has come about Wes has to fancy his outside chances of getting into the Welsh Euro squad - he has no chance of that sat on the bench for us, so why not get out there, get game time and score some goals !?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WsM-Red Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I'm really not sure on this one. On the one hand it's great that he has now got a chance to go and get some first team football, put together a run of games and maybe find some confidence and form. However, with Wagstaff our back up right sided winger, he just hasn't got the same pace as Wes. As a defender, I know I would rather face Wagstaff coming off the bench after 60/70 minutes of tired legs than facing a very quick Wes Burns! Really hope he does well and gets a new contract in the summer, he's got something about him just needs a run of games I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Reid does not have the consistently to be a Championship player and at 23 is no longer a youngstet, I think he should move on at the end of the season. Burns needs 30+ games on loan somewhere before assessing his future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauntonian Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 dont understand this. his pace is very useful in the last 20, 30 mins. hope theres a replacment lined up otherwise this is a silly decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambodinho Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Absolutely no football brain whatsoever. Can't cross. Nobody really sure what position suits him best. His lightning pace is all he has going for him imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThOmO Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 This is win win for club and player as he's not going to get game time here at the moment if wes does well we get a rejuvenated sticker for next season who may have been to a World Cup, can recall also if he goes on amazing run. He gets the chance for regular football and an outside chance of a Wales call up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, ThOmO said: This is win win for club and player as he's not going to get game time here at the moment if wes does well we get a rejuvenated starker for next season who may have been to a World Cup, can recall also if he goes on amazing run. He gets the chance for regular football and an outside chance of a Wales call up. Personally I'd be amazed if Wes went to the World Cup this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Personally I'd be amazed if Wes went to the World Cup this summer. He's sneakily doing a Botham and going for the ODIs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathredwood Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 why not let him leave in the summer, allow him to find success elsewhere and then buy him back in a few years when he's one of the better players in our squad. This was the idea with Golbourne right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Just as well this decision wasn't made by a different manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Surprised to see him head out on loan as we have, what, 4 wide players? Bryan and Freeman, then cover from Wagstaff and Burns? If Bryan gets injured, Freeman switches and Wagstaff comes in, which leaves not a lot of options on the bench. Perhaps we have someone coming in, either way good luck Wes, i'm sure any player wants game time. Maybe @djb6162 can shed some light, although i'm sure there are details you cannot/will not discuss, no doubt. Finally I hate all the criticism he gets on here, I know no player is exempt from it, and that just because they're local "you shouldn't bash them". But the way people write off a young developing player as 'not being good enough' or 'of XYZ level' etc etc is bizarre, especially a player who doesn't want anything more than to succeed and hasn't had many chances to show what he can do over a sustained period. Who can say how he will develop over the coming years as he builds confidence and experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Not surprised, Wes needs game time, which is something he isn't guaranteed here. Hopefully he'll do a good job and get himself noticed if he doesn't have a future here He's got lots of the one thing you can't teach - pace Good luck, Wes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Well thank **** we played both Bobby and Wes against Boro, as without them we couldn't have won the game. They kickstarted our turnaround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I find this strange, this can only be seen to be weakening our squad. I presume this means we will be adding to our squad soon, although this assumption has been wrong before, such as when Cunningham left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Talking of player development, just by way of comparison, take Jamie Vardy. At the same age as Wes, 21, he was playing in the 8th tier with Stocksbridge Park Steels. Aged 24 he was at Northern Premier League Halifax town. At aged 25/26 he was still in the conference with Fleetwood Town. Now look at him, top scorer in the prem, 4 England caps and likely to be in the squad for the euros this summer. Point is, you cannot predict development. Every player is different. Yes Vardy was banging them away in the conference and below, but you wouldn't have bet on him leading the line for England in a major championship 3/4 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 53 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Just as well this decision wasn't made by a different manager. To be fair to SC Es (I assume it is to SC that you are referring) he did say that he would have sent Wes on loan were his squad not so small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggythecity Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Why do people think this is the end of Wes Burns.He is going to a league one club to get expirience and game time and we can call him back after a month anyway,sure he still has a big future the next few years here now we are back to natural wingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Robin1988 said: Another coach who doesn't rate him particularly highly. Maybe being fast and local isn't enough to be a Championship player after all. Not meaning to be harsh on Wes but he's been talked up on the basis of not much for years. Just because he's being loaned out does n't mean that the coach does n't " rate " him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Major Isewater said: Just because he's being loaned out does n't mean that the coach does n't " rate " him . 1) It means he's surplus to requirements at the moment. 2) I didn't say he doesn't rate him, if he rated him 'particularly highly' he would be staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 3 hours ago, sephjnr said: Clearly expecting the lightning pace of Wilbo and finishing of Kodger to keep us out of the mire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted February 16, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 This looks like natural progression to me. 2 years ago he was loaned to FGR in the conference, last season to Cheltenham in L2, now he's off to L1. Gradually playing for and being sought after by higher level clubs. Don't really see the downside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Wes has been out on loan a couple of times before, I think that alone shows what a good attitude he has and wants to play and better himself. I do think though we maybe getting someone else in, but at this stage in the season it will be a player that needs games that someone else can't fit into their squad for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 The only reason people aren't please with this move is because he is local. Both him and Bobby would be consistently labelled as not good enough by fans if not bristolian... Both should either get loaned out long term or sold....local lads of not both do not strengthen us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 His preformance a few weeks ago against Birmingham was woeful and well below that of a championship player. At this momment in time the lad is not good enough at this level. I listen to Lee Johnson on the Twentyman show last night( by the way, very impressed with how he came across more importantly what he said) he talked about speed of thought which sometimes is the difference between leauge 1 and Championship player. Burns at this level makes poor footballing decisions, he don't read the game well and is caught out of position on a number of times. I'm backing Lee Johnson on this one . We all want to see young local lads doing well but professional football is a brutal game and as we have seen this year there is no place for sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCityLife Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 This has to mean a striker is coming in on loan surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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