Robbored Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: You said he wouldn't be up to the Championship. He very clearly is. No he's not. Flint is a very average "head it and kick it" merchant and League 1 is his level. He's fortunate to be playing in the Championship because he won promotion with City. Very few, if any Championship clubs would actually sign him if he were still playing in the lower leagues. He lacks "footballing intelligence" which separates the good defenders from the ordinary ones. Before I get slated these comments are aimed at Flints ability but not at his personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, Robbored said: No he's not. Flint is a very average "head it and kick it" merchant and League 1 is his level. He's fortunate to be playing in the Championship because he won promotion with City. Very few, if any Championship clubs would actually sign him if he were still playing in the lower leagues. He lacks "footballing intelligence" which separates the good defenders from the ordinary ones. Before I get slated these comments are aimed at Flints ability but not at his personality. which is exactly what a defender should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 16 minutes ago, Robbored said: No he's not. Flint is a very average "head it and kick it" merchant and League 1 is his level. He's fortunate to be playing in the Championship because he won promotion with City. Very few, if any Championship clubs would actually sign him if he were still playing in the lower leagues. He lacks "footballing intelligence" which separates the good defenders from the ordinary ones. Before I get slated these comments are aimed at Flints ability but not at his personality. Hilarious!! Of course it would be easy to make a quip about who really lacks "footballing intelligence" so I shall resist! If League One is his level then how has he managed to be part of a defence, that since a switch to 4-4-2, has kept 4 clean sheets in 9 and has also personally managed to score 3 goals in his last 4 games? And as for Championship clubs not being interested in signing him - you might want to consider why we offered him a 2 year contract extension last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 19 minutes ago, Robbored said: He lacks "footballing intelligence" which separates the good defenders from the ordinary ones. Maybe, but the Premier League is full of ordinary defenders. Being technically good enough for a certain level and succeeding at that level are not always the same thing, and the margins can be fine. Physical attributes and mental toughness will get a player a long way in the English game, much further than ability alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Nice to see Robbored being hilariously wrong on yet another subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 When Baker plays Flint plays well. When he doesn't....cough (Brighton). Baker is a solid championship defender, Flint is a solid league 1 defender. I have know faith in a defence that doesn't contain Baker. If we are serious about challenging near the top of this league an upgrade on Flint will be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 You have to take into account his goals as well, how many points has he won us this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Super said: You have to take into account his goals as well, how many points has he won us this season? Maybe 6 points? He's also had at least 2 shockers of games so probably breaking even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 If he still progress I Think he can be in pl. He is a defender, away with the ball, with feet or head. Small fast forwards dont suit Flint. Anyway, for me he is a rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Would he be able to do a job in the prem? Of course. The manager has to know when to play him and when to sit him. We've seen his weaknesses this year. When teams keep the ball on the ground and use pace to get in behind. He doesn't have the pace to recover in those spots. Sit him for teams that will play this way. His strengths are in the air and marking a specific player. Team have a big man they like to lump it up to? Play him. Are they playing a lone striker? Play him and tell him to mark him. He'll get a few goals as well. He'd do a job for a lower team. I don't think he's an every week player at that level but he'd be good cover and has value in set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted March 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Is Flint of PL quality? You just trying to court controversy again, Robbo? Amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted March 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Quite a few mentions of Wes Morgan now sitting at the top of the Prem, but looking at another Leicester defender, and I'd even say there doesn't seem to be a lot of difference between the respective games of Flint and Robert Huth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartcliffe red Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Not quite yet im afraid,he does however sort of remind me of piers metesaker a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 currently no he isn't good enough but he's young enough to have time to improve so in the future? who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Super said: which is exactly what a defender should do. The question was is Flint good enough for the PL? Answer - no. Why? Because PL defenders have other skills and abilities that Flint lacks. Heading and kicking it isn't enough in the PL. Pretty much any defender can " head it and kick it" but they don't play in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 10 minutes ago, Robbored said: The question was is Flint good enough for the PL? Answer - no. Why? Because PL defenders have other skills and abilities that Flint lacks. Heading and kicking it isn't enough in the PL. Pretty much any defender can " head it and kick it" but they don't play in the PL. But you have said on this thread he isn't good enough for this level which based on the last 10 games is a bit unfair. He appears to be getting better at this level and appears solid enough now. I personally don't think he is Prem quality or will get there but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 7 hours ago, Fordy62 said: You say that, but the striker to have him most in his pocket this season was the big chap up top at Birmingham - absolutely crucified poor Flinty. So much so that I can't remember his name.... Ah, Clayton Donaldson. But in the return fixture, the reverse was true - Donaldson barely got a kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 That dodgy George Weah cohesion kiddy managed 45 mins in the prem.....so technically yes. Could he be a regular starter? At this point I don't think so simply because his all round game isn't strong enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Just reading mirror football on Twitter that west brom have been scouting flint . Eyeing a 2 million pound move in the summer. Sunderland been looking as well . Maybe he could be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfieldred Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 He is not good enough on the ball for that level as yet. Can't pick out a pass, but you could have said the same about smalling until this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Considering how hard we found it to find a good enough centre back last time we were in this division I wouldn't sell Flint for anything less than ridiculous. Also his goals are incredibly important considering we don't score many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 18 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I don't get all this 'hes not good enough on the ball'. There have been a number of great big centre backs who are not great on the ball at the top level. And Flint is not even that bad on the ball anyway. If you discount his constant intent to ping long balls forward which rarely find anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Shaun Morgan said: Just reading mirror football on Twitter that west brom have been scouting flint . Eyeing a 2 million pound move in the summer. Sunderland been looking as well . Maybe he could be good enough. Not surprised about that to be honest, it's nothing but internet noise, but not surprised that WBA would be keen, after seeing him first hand twice, and Sunderland could do a lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I don't think we will know until he gets the chance. Sometimes playing alongside better players raises your own game. There are so many cases of players deemed not good enough, yet prove themselves more than adequate at the next level up. In contrast there are plenty who play at the top level, but when they drop down (either through choice, delegation, regular first team game time etc) can't cut it. I'd prefer to sit on the fence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Well according to The Mirror, West Brom are lining up a £2m summer move for him.... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-brom-eyeing-2million-summer-7479843 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Well according to The Mirror, West Brom are lining up a £2m summer move for him.... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-brom-eyeing-2million-summer-7479843 Apologies, only just realised Cynic has already posted this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted March 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 2 million??? No chance, he's got to be worth at least double that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Certainly got a lot of what many Premiership players lack DESIRE A rarish commodity these days Desire takes you forward and helps you learn..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Certainly got a lot of what many Premiership players lack DESIRE A rarish commodity these days Desire takes you forward and helps you learn..... Premier League players lacking desire. Another great myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 23 minutes ago, Cunnyfunt said: Premier League players lacking desire. Another great myth. When Remi Garde reveals some of his players don't even try on training ground ...... a myth for sure think you confuse desire for £££££££ with desire to improve and succeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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