Rocky Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 I lumped a few quid on him when he was 12/1 ... mainly because I want him as manager as well ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Perhaps the decision we all have to make is to accept .that in England football is overwhelmingly a club game, both in terms of money and players' contracts, and in terms of fan support. The England team is no longer at the top of our football pyramid. We may not like this but that is the reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 35 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Perhaps the decision we all have to make is to accept .that in England football is overwhelmingly a club game, both in terms of money and players' contracts, and in terms of fan support. The England team is no longer at the top of our football pyramid. We may not like this but that is the reality Ok, I think most people have accepted that. Nobody likes it of course. It shouldn't be like that. This process is about picking the right man to change that and bring English football to where it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 On 11/07/2016 at 10:25, Bs4Red said: I have had ideas for the England team which I believe would enhance the team and their chances at every tournament. One is near impossible and the other seems reasonable. The near impossible one is that we have an England team in the Premier League. Play against all the best sides in the world and the chance to play champions league ect but the FA have to buy 25 players who they believe are worthy of being in the 'squad' The other is that before major tournaments, England players leave the premier league 2 months prior to the end of the season and spend 4 months together ensuring we are fully prepared for the tournament. Something has to change, we are so far behind now that it cannot be a little change it has to be something radical. Yet other national teams have proved this is completely unnecessary to get a team performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Ivorguy said: Perhaps the decision we all have to make is to accept .that in England football is overwhelmingly a club game, both in terms of money and players' contracts, and in terms of fan support. The England team is no longer at the top of our football pyramid. We may not like this but that is the reality Sadly thats the case. It's so disheartening to sit in a pub 100 miles from London and hear Arsenal / Tottenham fans slate and boo the other teams players whilst playing for England. Of course, the players dont hear this, but it's the attitude up and down the country. A huge amount of Premier League fans would rather watch us lose than see their rivals star man hit a hattrick in a World Cup Final. It wouldn't be so bad if these ***** actually went to watch the teams they so passionately support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Ivorguy said: Perhaps the decision we all have to make is to accept .that in England football is overwhelmingly a club game, both in terms of money and players' contracts, and in terms of fan support. The England team is no longer at the top of our football pyramid. We may not like this but that is the reality I wouldn't say this is necessarily an English problem. The Spanish and Italians have the same feelings towards their national team and league system, yet they are still able to come together and cheer star players from a team they despise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyRed Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 For me, it's the FA that need to take a serious look inwards. It's a shame they can't 'sack' themselves. The FA have FAILED, time and again, to select a manager that can mould a team that can challenge the best in the world. I think there are several reasons for this, and it's definitely not about throwing silly money at some 'football bloke' and expecting him to lift a trophy. 1. The Premier League. The richest league in the world which attracts players from everywhere, wanting to get their feet in the money trough. Having said that, it is arguable that the Premier League is not the best as regards football quality. Hence we see the situation where clubs find it difficult to attract the top players (those who don't need the money). Also, ask yourself why there are no England Internationals playing in other leagues. To my knowledge, ALL our International players play in the domestic league! Perhaps it's because they're not good enough for foreign leagues? Or is it more mercenary than that and our players won't go elsewhere because they can earn more in the Premier League? 2. Philosophy and Coaching methods. Perhaps it is time the FA took a long hard look at how we coach and train young players, both physically and mentally. It is obvious that developing talent doesn't get much of a look-in with Premier League teams bulging with foreign, highly paid players. BRExit may give us an opportunity of reducing the number of foreign players playing in our domestic leagues. 3. A fixed plan and philosophy for the National Side. Don't give overpaid, fluffy, managers carte blanche in deciding how the National team plays because, a la Hodgson, they will just contually fiddle with team selection and tactics and never settle on ONE WAY TO PLAY. Of course, we need to be flexible to adjust our play to handle the opposition strengths, but there should be a basic ENGLISH PLAN. Too many English players in Euro 2016 either a) were not fully fit b) didn't deserve to be there c) were not really aware of what the game plan was, if any. From the Manager's viewpoint, he didn't know his best team, or shape, when entering the Tournament finals - a shocking mistake. 4. Sam Allardyce, Glen Hoddle, Steve Bruce? Really? It beggars belief that the FA are seriously considering these candidates, particularly Allardyce. Not 10 years ago he and his son were being investigated for corruption by the FA - and now he's an England Manager candidate? Shocking! The England Manager needs to be someone who can follow a plan LAID DOWN BY THE FA about the way we play as a National team (our tactics and methods), then select the best English players who are fit enough, committed enough, intelligent enough and talented enough to follow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 On 11/07/2016 at 12:59, Major Isewater said: I'm sure that if the FA can 'do a lot worse ' they will do . I have total confidence your correct,Major... Even the stuffed shirts at the FA know Klinsmann's where its at-they,like the players just don't have a chin...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 18 hours ago, Ivorguy said: Perhaps the decision we all have to make is to accept .that in England football is overwhelmingly a club game, both in terms of money and players' contracts, and in terms of fan support. The England team is no longer at the top of our football pyramid. We may not like this but that is the reality Fan support? There was estimated 70000 fans in Marseille for the Russia game, probably 40000 in the ground - the fans will always go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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