Unan Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: Haven't gone through all 8 pages, BUT, anyone any idea the ball park fee we paid ? 1.5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 What a breath of fresh air this thread is. Lots of intelligent (dare I say!), interesting posts, some disagreements but without abuse, a pleasure to read. With the added bonus of another great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 This signing does sound fantastic. However, I thought I read earlier in the thread that he'd only played about 8 times for Lens. In that case, why is he so highly considered and how on earth did he get to captain England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 I remember an eminent professor said on a tv prog about 25 years ago that he asks one question to establish whether someone is intelligent or not. That question is: I will give you ten quid now or if you wait a year I will give you twenty quid. Apparently, intelligent people wait a year. I reckon this is tosh. It might well be that the ten pounds is of greater use to one right now than twenty quid in a year from now. Also, the professor might die after say four months and it would be doubtful his widow or children would then give one twenty quid for turning up 8 months later saying that the late prof had promised it. Of course, the potential recipient might perish by being electrocuted in the bath listening to the City when the radio falls in, when had he or she had the extra tenner they would have gone to the ground instead. There are all sorts of permutations. Indeed, to my mind the only thing that question proved to me was how thick the professor who asked it was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 26 minutes ago, Hellfire Corner said: Enjoying this thread. Regarding "intelligence" in footballers, there is an interesting study done by Howard Gardener about 30 years ago about the 9 types of intelligence. Many people just think of intelligence as linguistic, logic/ mathmatical skill. Education today is sadly going down an ever narrowing route of so called intelligence, and those that don't succeed in Maths and Language are often dismissed as unintelligent. Intelligence is also- The ability for a football player to instinctively know where his teammates are and pick out a 40 yard inch perfect pass The ability for a striker to be able to time his run to perfection to meet a through ball and stay onside -- Some footballers may not be able to express themselves linguistically, but they are intelligent in other ways. Couldn't agree more, intelligence takes many forms but we associate it mainly with academic qualifications. By way of example, I have a mate who is a car mechanic. Because I have a degree he thinks I'm more intelligent than him. But there is no way I could do his job, and I wish I had his skills, which require a kind of intelligence I don't have. Professional footballers also have a kind of intelligence I don't. Whether it's cosmology, plumbing or football, it's all intelligence to me. It only stops being intelligence if you think you have nothing left to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UREDS_91 Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 If he ends up being a Stones type we could be in for a nice payday somewhere down the line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Had to put this up...this tune came on the radio in the car earlier. Driving along...the chorus...I'm sure he was singing 'Taylor Moore....let the rhythm take you over...Taylor Moore'. pmsl....apparently not haha. Funny how you hear different words in lyrics. Perhaps the Chorus could be adapted for our new signing and sung on the 'terraces' ;-) Made me giggle anyway...and 'Taylor Moore' will be sung along to this in future in my head if ever heard again ;-) Starts at 49 seconds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reformed_red Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 51 minutes ago, Hellfire Corner said: Enjoying this thread. Regarding "intelligence" in footballers, there is an interesting study done by Howard Gardener about 30 years ago about the 9 types of intelligence. Many people just think of intelligence as linguistic, logic/ mathmatical skill. Education today is sadly going down an ever narrowing route of so called intelligence, and those that don't succeed in Maths and Language are often dismissed as unintelligent. Intelligence is also- The ability for a football player to instinctively know where his teammates are and pick out a 40 yard inch perfect pass The ability for a striker to be able to time his run to perfection to meet a through ball and stay onside -- Some footballers may not be able to express themselves linguistically, but they are intelligent in other ways. Agree - some very interesting, and dare I say 'intelligent' perspectives.... Without being pedantic, I would argue that the ability for a football player to know where his teammates are, play 40 yard pass or time his run to perfection are attributes of talent, ability and instinct, and can't be taught. For example, a joiner has incredible skill and talent to craft wood, an IT technician has natural flair to solve computing issues, but those practical skills don't translate to intelligence. Much in the same way that you can have all the brains in the world, but you can't teach a footballer to have the natural skill that Messi, or Tomlin, has. I think ability has to be separated from intelligence, and intelligence manifests itself in the recognition and willingness to learn and develop. In terms of footballing 'intelligence', whereas you can't teach a player to have the skill of a messi, look at a player like makelele, awesome intelligence made up for a lack of natural flair. I think players do need to be able to understand the analysis of the game, and absurd that information and then use that information to better their p[performances as individuals and as a team. That's just the way I see it, loving the different perspectives, very interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Bullbag said: I think 3-5-2 is an option now (not necessarily a formation to start a match). Moore on the right, Flint in the centre and Maggers on the left. Especially with Moore and Maggers being versatile with both being able to play both centre back and right/left back respectively. This is an impressive team........... O'Donnell Moore Flint Magnusson O'Dowda Bryan O'Neil Smith Tomlin Abraham Kodjia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 4 hours ago, redordead1 said: Agree. This intelligence appears to be a key cornerstone of LJ's recruitment policy. Often over-looked by fans, as we don't really get much insight into how tactically savvy or understanding, flexible of systems our players are. However, its rumoured to be partly down to why Ayling left, and others may be moving on too. Can't say I disagree with this policy, if you really want progress then you need clever players who can adapt and learn. Always interesting to see how highly Guardiola regards smart players and how much he credits the likes of Lahm for his success. What is the difference between a Premiership footballer and one from League Two? The top two inches (50mm)! PS. There are notable exceptions to any rule before anyone nominates Wayne Rooney as Brain of Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 46 minutes ago, spudski said: Had to put this up...this tune came on the radio in the car earlier. Driving along...the chorus...I'm sure he was singing 'Taylor Moore....let the rhythm take you over...Taylor Moore'. pmsl....apparently not haha. Funny how you hear different words in lyrics. Perhaps the Chorus could be adapted for our new signing and sung on the 'terraces' ;-) Made me giggle anyway...and 'Taylor Moore' will be sung along to this in future in my head if ever heard again ;-) Starts at 49 seconds... I bet you weren't listening to 6music… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Think it was Heart or Kiss... Normally have Stereophonics blasting :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 hour ago, handsofclay1909 said: I remember an eminent professor said on a tv prog about 25 years ago that he asks one question to establish whether someone is intelligent or not. That question is: I will give you ten quid now or if you wait a year I will give you twenty quid. Apparently, intelligent people wait a year. I reckon this is tosh. It might well be that the ten pounds is of greater use to one right now than twenty quid in a year from now. Also, the professor might die after say four months and it would be doubtful his widow or children would then give one twenty quid for turning up 8 months later saying that the late prof had promised it. Of course, the potential recipient might perish by being electrocuted in the bath listening to the City when the radio falls in, when had he or she had the extra tenner they would have gone to the ground instead. There are all sorts of permutations. Indeed, to my mind the only thing that question proved to me was how thick the professor who asked it was! Not heard of an adult test for DG, only the famous "Marshmallow Test" for 4 and 5 year olds. A good predictor for future success. I think Gazza would've gone for the marshmallow now, rather than two a bit later. When he was 4 or 5, or 25. Poor bloke. All of modern life now, and Capitalism itself, seems to thrive on plundering our weakness in delaying gratification. That said, I can't wait to see this lad/til Saturday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Quick, everyone get on FIFA and see how good he is. Everything sounds good so far. Just need Tammy to sign full time too (wishful thinking) and we have a squad full of young & exciting players with a little bit of experience...... something I raised with Mr lansdown at a q&a in wolves a few years ago. It's good having young players, but you need experience too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 3 hours ago, Chivs said: This signing does sound fantastic. However, I thought I read earlier in the thread that he'd only played about 8 times for Lens. In that case, why is he so highly considered and how on earth did he get to captain England? It's true but he captained the same team that Tammy Abraham plays in. Tammy has about 6 senior games under his belt and half them from the bench. Senior football at their age isn't how they're being judged. Clearly rated by Lens and England youth set up. Lyon apparently wanted him and were willing to pay €10m just last year. Something come up at Lens and it opened up a move for us for a player we wouldn't have been able to sign in January as his price was higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 He`s just been selected for England U20s and the World?Euro? U20 championship is next summer. I wonder if he may have been advised that if he wants to progress internationally he needs to be playing at a better standard than Ligue 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 8 hours ago, Antman said: i'm all for a few players with intelligence on the pitch - TBH Joe Bryan is another who has been through a decent school and comes from an 'upper middle class' home. Sadly not. I believe Joe was "educated" at QEH so one can very much dispel this myth regarding his schooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 4 hours ago, Chivs said: This signing does sound fantastic. However, I thought I read earlier in the thread that he'd only played about 8 times for Lens. In that case, why is he so highly considered and how on earth did he get to captain England? His interview on player was very impressive for such a young man. Came across as very articulate and excited but also very focused on what he needs to do next in his career. As for the England captain side of things, for him to say at 19 in his first interview at a new club with no air of arrogance that in his words "I'm a leader " spoke volumes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 17 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Sadly not. I believe Joe was "educated" at QEH so one can very much dispel this myth regarding his schooling. QEH, QED? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsontour Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 If anyone is any doubt as to the impact of our signing at RC Lens, 9 pages of forum content on THEIR site, all of which is either distraught/depressed or simply expressing how good he is.. He has as also written them a fantastic farewell note.. Classy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 4 hours ago, Bullbag said: I like the look of that! Can't wait to see Korey and GON in the middle together. Those two up front will cause problems for defences. I think we could sit in and use the counter attack well with that line up. When all are fit and available someone is going to get a hammering.. hope I'm there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 44 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Sadly not. I believe Joe was "educated" at QEH so one can very much dispel this myth regarding his schooling. Eh?! You saying QEH isn't a good school?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtonphil Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 44 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Sadly not. I believe Joe was "educated" at QEH so one can very much dispel this myth regarding his schooling. What's your problem with QEH - I can only assume you either went to BGS or have no idea what you are talking about. There are a few Old Elizabethans on this forum and a couple of current ones too I think...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Will we play with 3 at the back now? Otherwise we're breaking up a promising partnership. And there's nothing worse than wasting talent on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Anyone concerned that with moore, hordur and bryan that our defence is far too pretty to match up against the like of akinfenwa or some other beast striker?? At least flint evens it out a bit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, simon uk said: Anyone concerned that with moore, hordur and bryan that our defence is far too pretty to match up against the like of akinfenwa or some other beast striker?? At least flint evens it out a bit!! Gotta be part of the Bristol Sport brand strategy; get the team full of attractive young players to pull in all the girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 4 hours ago, RedRaw said: This is an impressive team........... O'Donnell Moore Flint Magnusson O'Dowda Bryan O'Neil Smith Tomlin Abraham Kodjia Only problem with this is O'Dowda. He is a winger/attacking midfielder. Let's not ruin a promising career but trying to make him into a wing back. We need a decent right wingback before we play 352 please let's not try putting square pegs in round holes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 hour ago, CyderInACan said: Sadly not. I believe Joe was "educated" at QEH so one can very much dispel this myth regarding his schooling. eh? i hope you're being ironic or something. QEH is one of the better schools in Bristol, posh kids all. there's plenty of other local gladiator academies he could have gone to!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 9 hours ago, Lew-T said: So is he related to Sir Bobby Moore... I believe Geoff Merrick was, but did Bobby Moore OBE ever receive a Knighthood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I believe Geoff Merrick was, but did Bobby Moore OBE ever receive a Knighthood? I don't believe he did Phil, just the OBE wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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