MigratedRobin Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 This generation of England players will always think about club before country unfortunately. Until every last bit of TV money disappears from the premier league it will remain the same. That said, Come On ENGLAND!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Just as well Danny Rose isn't on loan with us at the moment, he'd be third choice LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said: Manager doesn't pick the squad? Behave. May not be as blatant as I put it but the FA have always appointed Yes men. England and its whole set up is a pathetic embarrassment . Its obvious to see, and always has been...you don't get picked on form. You get picked on name, and who you play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Anyone else think our ex loanee, Rose, is poor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Just now, Andy082005 said: May not be as blatant as I put it but the FA have always appointed Yes men. England and its whole set up is a pathetic embarrassment . Its obvious to see, and always has been...you don't get picked on form. You get picked on name, and who you play for. You can only blame the manager for team selection. I doubt anyone other than Hodgson thought it made sense to make 6 changes from a winning team last time we played this lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Anyone else think our ex loanee, Rose, is poor? Always have ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Just now, BRISTOL86 said: You can only blame the manager for team selection. I doubt anyone other than Hodgson thought it made sense to make 6 changes from a winning team last time we played this lot. He should never have been manager in the first place. Another yes man.... The 6 changes were not a surprise though. The same guy took Jack Wilshire over Drinkwater and Noble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 This is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Super said: This group looks piss easy sadly it doesn't matter as we know what will happen in Russia. Yup...We'll all get beaten up by the Putin mob and then the English clad Putin mob will retaliate and England will get kicked out of the tournament.. By Russia. Its all written in stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 If Rose is the England gold standard, we can see why Lee thinks so highly of Bryan as left back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, Malago said: Just as well Danny Rose isn't on loan with us at the moment, he'd be third choice LB. Good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Andy082005 said: He should never have been manager in the first place. Another yes man.... The 6 changes were not a surprise though. The same guy took Jack Wilshire over Drinkwater and Noble Exactly, HE took Wilshere. No one told him to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Ivorguy said: If Rose is the England gold standard, we can see why Lee thinks so highly of Bryan as left back He made one mistake. He was one of the only players to come out of France with a sliver of credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Just now, BRISTOL86 said: He made one mistake. He was one of the only players to come out of France with a sliver of credit. Will probably lose his place to shaw but he's a decent international LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Just want to add what others have said that this looks and feels like a Euro qualifier type of performance; most of the possession with no finished product. This has to be about the poorest set of players we have had in many a year. I do fully expect us to go on and at least not lose against the mighty Slovaks. What a sorry state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said: Exactly, HE took Wilshere. No one told him to. We've seen it for years. Players from the big teams get picked continuously no matter what their form is like. Not just Woy...every manager before, certainly in my life time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Anyone else think our ex loanee, Rose, is poor? not as bad as that catspiss sterling and rose is not international standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stogursey red Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Sounds to me like Allardyce has set the team up to get a draw maybe nic a goal if we are lucky, easy to see why Sam never got a job at a big club no idea how to use good players in an attacking manner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Was running late and missed the first 5 minutes. Shame I wasn't stuck in traffic for a couple of hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Same England. Same boring football. Why is the build up so slow? Why aren't they pressing? England aren't the best team in the world but they should have their way with this group but they continue to give teams time to set up defensively. No chances going forward. John Stones has probably been on the ball the most in the first half. Good that he's confident but that same confidence is lost the fort her forward you go. Harry Kane has that "star" syndrome and does none of the things anymore that got him his recognition. I'll keep watching because it's football but you can count the next two years as wasted. Even if they qualify, they'll get ousted early. Maybe not qualifying would be the wake up call needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Watching that uninspiring first half you wouldn't know that England have changed managers.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Just now, Andy082005 said: We've seen it for years. Players from the big teams get picked continuously no matter what their form is like. Not just Woy...every manager before, certainly in my life time. Pretty sure that's not a trait exclusive to England. Even club managers can be guilty of picking names over form. It's not like we have 4 or 5 quality options in every position. With the inclusion of the likes of Antonio and Drinkwater, it seems like he is considering form and seems a bit harsh to write him off as a 'yes man' (what does that even mean?) after less than 45 minutes. Did we really expect 11 changes from the Iceland game? Would be very unusual for an incoming manager to be so radical. His preferred 11 will no doubt evolve over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 I see ITV are showing the game from the Euros again. What time does the actual game kick off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobbin Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 13 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: You can only blame the manager for team selection. I doubt anyone other than Hodgson thought it made sense to make 6 changes from a winning team last time we played this lot. To be fair. You would still think Hodgson is still in charge. Judging on the first half performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobbin Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Big C said: I see ITV are showing the game from the Euros again. What time does the actual game kick off? Try ITV + 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYTRAM Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Walsheys step over said: Has anyone else noticed the presenters desk on itv showing European qualifying I just noticed that. Is the Post owned by ITV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Redrobbin said: To be fair. You would still think Hodgson is still in charge. Judging on the first half performance. It's been obvious for a long, long time that the manager was not the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Redrobbin said: To be fair. You would still think Hodgson is still in charge. Judging on the first half performance. Definitely, I'm not defending the performance but it's laughable to suggest it's not up to the manager who picks the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 First Half Quality Score 2.7 / 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 I'm just hoping that at least Big Sam might just go "Sod it" and chuck on a tall lad up top and tell them to go direct. Perhaps not a popular opinion, but if England had the resources to play teams to death, we'd not have lost to Iceland. Vardy and Drinkwater showed last week that you can score goals with pace plus good long passing; why on earth aren't they playing today I do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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