samo II Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: So Freeman is 'relatively young' despite being a year older than Bobby Reid who you repeatedly say is not a young player, won't get better, isn't good enough (despite having a better goals/assists per game ratio) etc. Unbelievable. Personally I hope Freeman toddling off leads to more game time for Bobby. Recently rewatched a bunch of highlights from earlier in the season, and pretty clear how involved he was in a lot of our best attacking play. Genuinly believe we've missed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Very simple. He could not stand the thought of playing for Lee Johnson in the third division next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Better centrally than wide but nothing special at this level so far. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 People are so bitter its embarassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 44 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: So Freeman is 'relatively young' despite being a year older than Bobby Reid who you repeatedly say is not a young player, won't get better, isn't good enough (despite having a better goals/assists per game ratio) etc. Unbelievable. My opinion was never 'BR won't get better'. I've always said he was a skilful player who had potential, but felt his potential was over rated by many and therefore very unlikely to be realised. I've also given him credit for recent improvement, while still not accepting he does enough, consistently, to be a regular choice. Reid is still relatively young, but made his City debut almost 6 years ago. LF, at one year older, has had one disappointing year at City in the Championship not 3/4, as in Bobby's case, and often in L1. Very few have ever taken into account LF's age when criticising him, yet for Young Bobby it seems almost a permanent excuse. Interesting that he is almost universally referred to as 'Young Bobby' on this forum, as though still a teenager, and I suspect there are many reading this thread unaware Freeman is only 1 year older. I rate Freeman, obviously higher than you and others, and I'm disappointed he's gone. As I said I think the new manager would have liked to inherit him and imo. he would likely have thrived with his confidence up through being played consistently and in his preferred position. I don't know what happens to BR if LJ goes, but I suspect a new manager would neither rate him so highly, be so patient and forgiving of him, nor give him so many opportunities, and he might well be one to be moved on, much like Burns, Ayling and now Freeman by LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 On 1/29/2017 at 09:00, Major Isewater said: and are still above us ! There's not many left that aren't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAGa Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Bobby Reid has scored more goals and looked more threatening than Freeman in far less Championship appearances. I know which one I'd prefer. The only thing Freeman has the edge over Bobby with is his set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Sorry should I feel some sense of respect to the player who forced a move by refusing to play so he didn't have to lose a 'loyalty' bonus?! What's the loyalty bonus all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, JHAGa said: Bobby Reid has scored more goals and looked more threatening than Freeman in far less Championship appearances. I know which one I'd prefer. The only thing Freeman has the edge over Bobby with is his set pieces. I don't understand this Freeman set pieces myth? They're dog shit, first man or slowly lofted in to the keepers arms. I don't think I've ever seen Freeman whip in a real quick/dangerous cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 53 minutes ago, Taxi for Johnson said: Did you insist on a sell-on clause on your last car before you got rid because it did not work? Why was that? TFJ How I've missed your stunning wit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAGa Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, Griffin said: I don't understand this Freeman set pieces myth? They're dog shit, first man or slowly lofted in to the keepers arms. I don't think I've ever seen Freeman whip in a real quick/dangerous cross. To be fair, I've probably got 14/15 stuck in my mind, when he picked out Flinty to many times. Like the rest of his game it's been lacking since promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said: What's the loyalty bonus all about? There's a common clause in football contracts which specifies a bonus to be paid to the player if they see their contract through to its conclusion. This is normally null and void if a player leaves of his own request whilst still contracted. If it's the club's decision to sell the player the bonus is still payable. This is what normally leads to the whole refusing to play thing. Basically forcing the club to sell you without actually ever asking to be sold. Just about the shittest thing you can do to a club that's been paying your wages for a few years but that's modern football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 48 minutes ago, Marlborough Red said: Luke was outstanding in our promotion season . Seemed to have a fantastic future at the Club . All went wrong after the sending off in the first game back in the Championship. Welcome return to form in recent weeks. Can't help thinking this has not been managed well by LJ. Interesting to see what position Holloway plays him and if he steps up to the new challenge. Still only 24 so the transfer could yet come back to haunt us. Good luck Luke and thanks for the memories Succinctly put. Exactly what I think. Seeing as the luck we've had this season, I can see this one biting us on the arse. Cunningham's got his revenge already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Oh well good luck to him, all over now. One thing though - why did he not improve here, but instead stagnate/get worse. It seems teams like Barnsley can take these players, coach them, improve them and sell them on for a profit and as better players. Nearly every player who comes here whether young or old just seem to stop developing, or worse, their game deteriorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Anyone got any more funny Freeman / Inbetweeners clips. Saves me trawling through youtube. Cheers Hashtagtfj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said: There's a common clause in football contracts which specifies a bonus to be paid to the player if they see their contract through to its conclusion. This is normally null and void if a player leaves of his own request whilst still contracted. If it's the club's decision to sell the player the bonus is still payable. This is what normally leads to the whole refusing to play thing. Basically forcing the club to sell you without actually ever asking to be sold. Just about the shittest thing you can do to a club that's been paying your wages for a few years but that's modern football. Thanks for that. I can understand a bonus for being successful, but a bonus for seeing out a contract, that's what the rest of us call wages isn't it? If he was contracted to me and refused to work, I'd be asking for money back. Refusing to play sounds like a breach of contract on his part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 30 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: People are so bitter its embarassing. Bitter about? Last season he had 2 assists and 1 goal all season in 41 appearances... people say he didn't perform, how is that bitter? I think its stating the obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said: Thanks for that. I can understand a bonus for being successful, but a bonus for seeing out a contract, that's what the rest of us call wages isn't it? If he was contracted to me and refused to work, I'd be asking for money back. Refusing to play sounds like a breach of contract on his part. That's why contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on, all the power is with the player and they know it full well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 32 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: How I've missed your stunning wit . I thought that I was the only one that didn`t "get it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Libertine1 said: "Get lost Freeman" Embarrassing thread title. Whichever adult did that should be ashamed. Its my thread originally but the 'title' has been changed... my title read ' F Off, Freeman ' after he refused to play... if they really had to change it now he's gone it should have become 'F ..ked Off Now - Freeman' (agree 'get lost' sounds awful ..some people have no class eh?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 30 minutes ago, Fiale said: Oh well good luck to him, all over now. One thing though - why did he not improve here, but instead stagnate/get worse. It seems teams like Barnsley can take these players, coach them, improve them and sell them on for a profit and as better players. Nearly every player who comes here whether young or old just seem to stop developing, or worse, their game deteriorate. Something in the water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, jayjay said: Very simple. He could not stand the thought of playing for Lee Johnson in the third division next season. ...so opts. for Holloway! ..... **** me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, cynic said: Apprently he's got a wand of a left foot. http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/qpr-wrap-up-deal-wand-12528890 Pity he refused to wave it for us last week then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANWRENBCFC4LIFE Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 They don't even know who they signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man in the middle Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Good luck Luke, always have nothing but good. Memory's but unfortunately never performed well enough on a consistent bases in the championship, shame after our premonition season I thought he was going to rip it apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Red_Wizard said: After a sensational time at QPR, and helping them to promotion. He'll eventually be sold to Everton for around £25mil. Are you here all night? Keep 'em coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, man in the middle said: Good luck Luke, always have nothing but good. Memory's but unfortunately never performed well enough on a consistent bases in the championship, shame after our premonition season I thought he was going to rip it apart. What gets me is nobody told me anything in advance about that premonition season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Are you here all night? Keep 'em coming. Stick 25 pence in the meter first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 59 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: Bitter about? Last season he had 2 assists and 1 goal all season in 41 appearances... people say he didn't perform, how is that bitter? I think its stating the obvious The threads called get lost freeman. Sounds pretty bitter to me. He still lifted two trophies more than most of the wasters that pass through this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Odds on people booing him when he comes back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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