Worst City manager ever?

[Trueredsupporter]

Osman. it was astounding how many turned their backs on the club in protest.

[alexukhc]

26 minutes ago, bcfcnick said:

It's a tough one as it highlights how many poor managers have been here.   In fact nobody has mentioned Brian Tinnion and he wouldn't be the worst and, quite rightfully, is stll held in high esteem for his playing years here but it does show the Club aren't great at selecting managers.

Coppell signed Nicky Hunt which helps his claim and I suspect if he has been in post longer we would have had a few more like that.

Lee's has had a better budget than all of them and has the record of the worst ever run but I have to give the accolade to SO'D for being so obnoxious, arrogant and patronising when his dismal managerial record and drab performances required humility.  How he loved to wear the Emperor's clothes.  Presented himself as a coach who played attractive passing football yet route one was his preferred style.  

 

 

I mentioned Tins

[Wanderingred]

Its a tough one.

For quality of the football on display, Osman although you could point to the fact that he kept us up in his first half a season, steadied us into mid table the next season, beat Liverpool in the cup and had very little money to spend. He had some form of tangiable success so surely cant be the worst.

In terms of results, it must sadly be LJ. Little evidence of success or progress despite being backed more than any other manager. The few positives are that he had a strong honeymoon period and he's signed some good players.

For leaving us in an absolute mess, Coppell though its hard to say how he mighht have done if he stayed so I'd be inclined to count him out.

That leaves O'Driscoll and Pulis... Both had us playing dire football, both were dislikeable and results were terrible in both cases. With SOD, some have said that he may have laid some foundations for future success. Cotterill was able to take over and within 18 months, we were promoted.

I think for the overall package, Pulis would get my vote as he satisfies all the criteria. Dire football... Check. Bad results... Check. Signed crap crocked players on huge wages? Check. Horrible personality? Check. Bad relationship with the fans? Check. And worst of all, hes a gashead and welsh.

Yep Pulis wins it in my opinion (had to add "in my opinion" in case I get accused of forcing everyone to accept my view as fact!)

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

6 hours ago, Derek from Nailsea said:

I don't think  a paltry 57 people so far constitute our whole fan base do you?

Derek,  haven't you been following all the other threads about our brilliant Head Coach's results on this forum and fans opinions on if he should be sacked or not. If you have then you would know that it's more than 57 fans that want him out and that the fans are getting more impatient every day.   If you can't understand why and what the general opinion on this forum is, then you can't be reading it very often, or indeed following the performances and results.  Oh,  and in any case,  I didn't say that the 57 voters represented our whole fan base, did I? the question was about the worse manager of three and the votes percentage thus far were in favour of LJ.

[Charlie BCFC]

My vote has to go for Steve Coppell left two games in and is a total w***** Johnson has been bad but nowhere near the worse 2nd and 3rd for me is SOD and Tiny Penis!

[Nomad]

Can't vote for Osman as he was excellent in Escape to Victory. Maybe LJ needs to sit down and watch with the current squad. And maybe just maybe Sly might be available for a stint in goal.

[RobintheRed Red]

2 hours ago, Emperor Palpatine said:

Ah that old chestnut which is nonsense based on nothing.

Maybe then Pembo can take the blame for the garbage defending this season? You know as he is on the defensive coaching side of things

Have you forgot a certain mr Dean Holden who has pushed pembo aside lets see when this ***** goes who takes over the reigns as someone anove stated johnson living on pembos team beginning of season and now has completely cattled us up

[Chairman Mao]

It's not LJ, first 8 months were very good.

Last 4 months have been amongst the worst since the early 80s.

[Warwickshire Red]

Going by stats and win percentages, of our more recent managers SOD or McInnes both had pretty poor records as did Benny, Roy H and Joe Bradshaw (1932). (Interesting to see Brian T won more than he lost and didn't have a bad record).

SOD had fewer resources to play with than most so I'll let him off so it could be Derek M is a candidate but I know it's not all about stats.

As for LJ, last season's performance makes his stats pretty respectable but doesn't tell this season's story which has gone horribly wrong; with all the resources he's had and unbelievable backing from SL, my vote has to go to LJ for the ongoing spectacularly poor job he's doing. 

All Bristol City Managers

Manager	From	Until	Hons	GpH	W	D	L	Total	Win%
Lee Johnson	2016	Now	0	n/a	20	9	23	52	38.46
John Pemberton	2016	2016	0	n/a	1	1	2	4	25.00
Steve Cotterill	2013	2016	1	116.00	53	35	28	116	45.69
Sean O'Driscoll	2013	2013	0	n/a	11	13	20	44	25.00
Derek McInnes	2011	2013	0	n/a	17	14	32	63	26.98
Keith Millen	2010	2011	0	n/a	18	12	27	57	31.58
Steve Coppell	2010	2010	0	n/a	0	0	2	2	0.00
Keith Millen (caretaker)	2010	2010	0	n/a	5	3	1	9	55.56
Gary Johnson	2005	2010	1	239.00	96	69	74	239	40.17
Keith Millen (caretaker)	2005	2005	0	n/a	1	1	1	3	33.33
Brian Tinnion	2004	2005	0	n/a	22	22	17	61	36.07
Danny Wilson	2000	2004	1	226.00	107	55	64	226	47.35
Leroy Rosenior	2000	2000	0	n/a	11	9	6	26	42.31
David Burnside	2000	2000	0	n/a	11	9	6	26	42.31
Tony Fawthrop	2000	2000	0	n/a	11	9	6	26	42.31
Tony Pulis	1999	2000	0	n/a	10	14	9	33	30.30
Benny Lennartsson	1998	1999	0	n/a	6	9	16	31	19.35
John Ward	1997	1998	1	84.00	38	19	27	84	45.24
Joe Jordan	1994	1997	0	n/a	42	37	51	130	32.31
Russell Osman	1993	1994	0	n/a	30	30	32	92	32.61
Denis Smith	1992	1993	0	n/a	15	12	21	48	31.25
Jimmy Lumsden	1990	1992	0	n/a	27	17	32	76	35.53
Joe Jordan	1988	1990	1	134.00	68	30	36	134	50.75
Terry Cooper	1982	1988	2	150.50	127	84	90	301	42.19
Roy Hodgson	1982	1982	0	n/a	3	5	12	20	15.00
Bobby Houghton	1980	1982	0	n/a	14	22	25	61	22.95
Alan Dicks	1967	1980	1	611.00	202	174	235	611	33.06
Fred Ford	1960	1967	1	362.00	145	100	117	362	40.06
Peter Doherty	1958	1960	0	n/a	34	15	49	98	34.69
Pat Beasley	1950	1958	1	354.00	162	77	115	354	45.76
Bob Wright	1949	1950	0	n/a	17	15	21	53	32.08
Bob Hewison	1932	1949	0	n/a	170	116	173	459	37.04
Joe Bradshaw	1929	1932	0	n/a	32	26	61	119	26.89
Alex Raisbeck	1921	1929	2	168.00	143	80	113	336	42.56
Joe Palmer	1919	1921	0	n/a	39	33	34	106	36.79
George Hedley	1913	1915	0	n/a	32	19	34	85	37.65
Sam Hollis	1911	1913	0	n/a	27	21	44	92	29.35
Frank Bacon	1910	1911	0	n/a	6	2	8	16	37.50
Henry 'Harry' Thickett	1905	1910	1	223.00	99	55	69	223	44.39
Sam Hollis	1901	1905	0	n/a	69	24	40	133	51.88
Sam Hollis	1897	1899	0	n/a	0	0	1	1	0.00

[Bob Thompson]

The fans got most of the managers from Dicks Out til now. They must all of them been bad! The fans are never wrong!

[Jimatno9]

there is only one real candidate for the worst manager brian tinnion was completely incompetent all other managers had some success somewhere - it is only people's affection for him as a player which allows him to get away with his performance as a manager - he was appalling

[Chappers]

Has to be Pulis. Johnson will win purely on current feelings. There's been Bobby Houghton and Steve Coppell too.

[One Team In Keynsham]

3 hours ago, Warwickshire Red said:

Going by stats and win percentages, of our more recent managers SOD or McInnes both had pretty poor records as did Benny, Roy H and Joe Bradshaw (1932). (Interesting to see Brian T won more than he lost and didn't have a bad record).

SOD had fewer resources to play with than most so I'll let him off so it could be Derek M is a candidate but I know it's not all about stats.

As for LJ, last season's performance makes his stats pretty respectable but doesn't tell this season's story which has gone horribly wrong; with all the resources he's had and unbelievable backing from SL, my vote has to go to LJ for the ongoing spectacularly poor job he's doing. 

All Bristol City Managers

Manager	From	Until	Hons	GpH	W	D	L	Total	Win%
Lee Johnson	2016	Now	0	n/a	20	9	23	52	38.46
John Pemberton	2016	2016	0	n/a	1	1	2	4	25.00
Steve Cotterill	2013	2016	1	116.00	53	35	28	116	45.69
Sean O'Driscoll	2013	2013	0	n/a	11	13	20	44	25.00
Derek McInnes	2011	2013	0	n/a	17	14	32	63	26.98
Keith Millen	2010	2011	0	n/a	18	12	27	57	31.58
Steve Coppell	2010	2010	0	n/a	0	0	2	2	0.00
Keith Millen (caretaker)	2010	2010	0	n/a	5	3	1	9	55.56
Gary Johnson	2005	2010	1	239.00	96	69	74	239	40.17
Keith Millen (caretaker)	2005	2005	0	n/a	1	1	1	3	33.33
Brian Tinnion	2004	2005	0	n/a	22	22	17	61	36.07
Danny Wilson	2000	2004	1	226.00	107	55	64	226	47.35
Leroy Rosenior	2000	2000	0	n/a	11	9	6	26	42.31
David Burnside	2000	2000	0	n/a	11	9	6	26	42.31
Tony Fawthrop	2000	2000	0	n/a	11	9	6	26	42.31
Tony Pulis	1999	2000	0	n/a	10	14	9	33	30.30
Benny Lennartsson	1998	1999	0	n/a	6	9	16	31	19.35
John Ward	1997	1998	1	84.00	38	19	27	84	45.24
Joe Jordan	1994	1997	0	n/a	42	37	51	130	32.31
Russell Osman	1993	1994	0	n/a	30	30	32	92	32.61
Denis Smith	1992	1993	0	n/a	15	12	21	48	31.25
Jimmy Lumsden	1990	1992	0	n/a	27	17	32	76	35.53
Joe Jordan	1988	1990	1	134.00	68	30	36	134	50.75
Terry Cooper	1982	1988	2	150.50	127	84	90	301	42.19
Roy Hodgson	1982	1982	0	n/a	3	5	12	20	15.00
Bobby Houghton	1980	1982	0	n/a	14	22	25	61	22.95
Alan Dicks	1967	1980	1	611.00	202	174	235	611	33.06
Fred Ford	1960	1967	1	362.00	145	100	117	362	40.06
Peter Doherty	1958	1960	0	n/a	34	15	49	98	34.69
Pat Beasley	1950	1958	1	354.00	162	77	115	354	45.76
Bob Wright	1949	1950	0	n/a	17	15	21	53	32.08
Bob Hewison	1932	1949	0	n/a	170	116	173	459	37.04
Joe Bradshaw	1929	1932	0	n/a	32	26	61	119	26.89
Alex Raisbeck	1921	1929	2	168.00	143	80	113	336	42.56
Joe Palmer	1919	1921	0	n/a	39	33	34	106	36.79
George Hedley	1913	1915	0	n/a	32	19	34	85	37.65
Sam Hollis	1911	1913	0	n/a	27	21	44	92	29.35
Frank Bacon	1910	1911	0	n/a	6	2	8	16	37.50
Henry 'Harry' Thickett	1905	1910	1	223.00	99	55	69	223	44.39
Sam Hollis	1901	1905	0	n/a	69	24	40	133	51.88
Sam Hollis	1897	1899	0	n/a	0	0	1	1	0.00

Have been going since 1976: what an utterly depressing cycle of failure. LJ almost looks like SAF against some of that shite.

[headhunter]

8 hours ago, Jimatno9 said:

there is only one real candidate for the worst manager brian tinnion was completely incompetent all other managers had some success somewhere - it is only people's affection for him as a player which allows him to get away with his performance as a manager - he was appalling

Beg to differ with that view.

Missed out on the play offs by 3 points. Basically is slaughtered by some on the back of that 7-1 defeat at Swansea.

FAILED DUE TO SL IMPOSING KEITH MILLEN ON HIM AS HIS ASSISTANT ; the blind leading the blind from a managerial experience perspective.

[22A]

Fred Ford was considered a failure, yet he has a better win percentage than Alan Dicks, City's longest serving Manager.

[paulcityfan]

I know people forget easily and the mind forgives over time.  However even weighing that up it is statistically the worst short period of results ever in the clubs history so I vote for Lee Johnson.  And even under SOD I still went to games.  Last 2 I have boycotted which would have been unthinkable under anyone else.  Just seems to be more negative stuff than just a crap manager going on at the moment too at the club. I will listen on player until it changes.

[Lrrr]

O'Driscoll for me, took a champiosnhip squad and would have gotten it relegated from league one had he not been sacked.

[22A]

Thanks to @Warwickshire Red for that table. Between 1899 & 1901 Bob Campbell was Manager. He had been a Scottish international and now had a wealth of managerial experience. He had a three year contract (at £260pa), but left after two years due to "a major disagreement with the board".

The last thing he did at AG was to see City elected to the Football League. In his first season they lost 29 games in Southern & Western Leagues and cup games. Bristol South End (as they then were) failed to score in 20 games and netted only once in 19 others. Bedminster were also struggling which is why they merged and it was Bristol City who finished 2nd the following year and were then elected to the League.

Bob Campbell had been Sunderland's manager and when they played City in an 1898 cup game, City's directors approached him about moving to City at the end of the season which is what he did. No talk then of unfair approaches or underhand tactics.

Peter Doherty was sacked on 15 March 1960 and for the remainder of the season the team was selected by a panel of five comprising Dolman, two other directors, the trainer and the captain. Their record was P10 W4 L6 F18 A20.

[Jurassic]

23 hours ago, Nongazeuse said:

Didn't we go from March to October 2013 without a league win ie 0 in 8 months - Sean O? 

You utter dildo. For most of that period it was "summer hols" !!!!

 

[Jurassic]

18 hours ago, Warwickshire Red said:

Going by stats and win percentages, of our more recent managers SOD or McInnes both had pretty poor records as did Benny, Roy H and Joe Bradshaw (1932). (Interesting to see Brian T won more than he lost and didn't have a bad record).

SOD had fewer resources to play with than most so I'll let him off so it could be Derek M is a candidate but I know it's not all about stats.

As for LJ, last season's performance makes his stats pretty respectable but doesn't tell this season's story which has gone horribly wrong; with all the resources he's had and unbelievable backing from SL, my vote has to go to LJ for the ongoing spectacularly poor job he's doing. 

All Bristol City Managers

Manager	From	Until	Hons	GpH	W	D	L	Total	Win%
Lee Johnson	2016	Now	0	n/a	20	9	23	52	38.46
John Pemberton	2016	2016	0	n/a	1	1	2	4	25.00
Steve Cotterill	2013	2016	1	116.00	53	35	28	116	45.69
Sean O'Driscoll	2013	2013	0	n/a	11	13	20	44	25.00
Derek McInnes	2011	2013	0	n/a	17	14	32	63	26.98
Keith Millen	2010	2011	0	n/a	18	12	27	57	31.58
Steve Coppell	2010	2010	0	n/a	0	0	2	2	0.00
Keith Millen (caretaker)	2010	2010	0	n/a	5	3	1	9	55.56
Gary Johnson	2005	2010	1	239.00	96	69	74	239	40.17
Keith Millen (caretaker)	2005	2005	0	n/a	1	1	1	3	33.33
Brian Tinnion	2004	2005	0	n/a	22	22	17	61	36.07
Danny Wilson	2000	2004	1	226.00	107	55	64	226	47.35
Leroy Rosenior	2000	2000	0	n/a	11	9	6	26	42.31
David Burnside	2000	2000	0	n/a	11	9	6	26	42.31
Tony Fawthrop	2000	2000	0	n/a	11	9	6	26	42.31
Tony Pulis	1999	2000	0	n/a	10	14	9	33	30.30
Benny Lennartsson	1998	1999	0	n/a	6	9	16	31	19.35
John Ward	1997	1998	1	84.00	38	19	27	84	45.24
Joe Jordan	1994	1997	0	n/a	42	37	51	130	32.31
Russell Osman	1993	1994	0	n/a	30	30	32	92	32.61
Denis Smith	1992	1993	0	n/a	15	12	21	48	31.25
Jimmy Lumsden	1990	1992	0	n/a	27	17	32	76	35.53
Joe Jordan	1988	1990	1	134.00	68	30	36	134	50.75
Terry Cooper	1982	1988	2	150.50	127	84	90	301	42.19
Roy Hodgson	1982	1982	0	n/a	3	5	12	20	15.00
Bobby Houghton	1980	1982	0	n/a	14	22	25	61	22.95
Alan Dicks	1967	1980	1	611.00	202	174	235	611	33.06
Fred Ford	1960	1967	1	362.00	145	100	117	362	40.06
Peter Doherty	1958	1960	0	n/a	34	15	49	98	34.69
Pat Beasley	1950	1958	1	354.00	162	77	115	354	45.76
Bob Wright	1949	1950	0	n/a	17	15	21	53	32.08
Bob Hewison	1932	1949	0	n/a	170	116	173	459	37.04
Joe Bradshaw	1929	1932	0	n/a	32	26	61	119	26.89
Alex Raisbeck	1921	1929	2	168.00	143	80	113	336	42.56
Joe Palmer	1919	1921	0	n/a	39	33	34	106	36.79
George Hedley	1913	1915	0	n/a	32	19	34	85	37.65
Sam Hollis	1911	1913	0	n/a	27	21	44	92	29.35
Frank Bacon	1910	1911	0	n/a	6	2	8	16	37.50
Henry 'Harry' Thickett	1905	1910	1	223.00	99	55	69	223	44.39
Sam Hollis	1901	1905	0	n/a	69	24	40	133	51.88
Sam Hollis	1897	1899	0	n/a	0	0	1	1	0.00

Just shows how goof Joe Jordan was. An injection of "blood and guts" determinatioin is exactly what we need now.

 

[BCFC_Dan]

Looking at that list, some of our best managers have been caretakers. Maybe we should just abandon the idea of a permanent manager and rotate every couple of months.

[BobBobSuperBob]

18 hours ago, Warwickshire Red said:

Going by stats and win percentages, of our more recent managers SOD or McInnes both had pretty poor records as did Benny, Roy H and Joe Bradshaw (1932). (Interesting to see Brian T won more than he lost and didn't have a bad record).

SOD had fewer resources to play with than most so I'll let him off so it could be Derek M is a candidate but I know it's not all about stats.

As for LJ, last season's performance makes his stats pretty respectable but doesn't tell this season's story which has gone horribly wrong; with all the resources he's had and unbelievable backing from SL, my vote has to go to LJ for the ongoing spectacularly poor job he's doing. 

All Bristol City Managers

Manager	From	Until	Hons	GpH	W	D	L	Total	Win%
Lee Johnson	2016	Now	0	n/a	20	9	23	52	38.46
John Pemberton	2016	2016	0	n/a	1	1	2	4	25.00
Steve Cotterill	2013	2016	1	116.00	53	35	28	116	45.69
Sean O'Driscoll	2013	2013	0	n/a	11	13	20	44	25.00
Derek McInnes	2011	2013	0	n/a	17	14	32	63	26.98
Keith Millen	2010	2011	0	n/a	18	12	27	57	31.58
Steve Coppell	2010	2010	0	n/a	0	0	2	2	0.00
Keith Millen (caretaker)	2010	2010	0	n/a	5	3	1	9	55.56
Gary Johnson	2005	2010	1	239.00	96	69	74	239	40.17
Keith Millen (caretaker)	2005	2005	0	n/a	1	1	1	3	33.33
Brian Tinnion	2004	2005	0	n/a	22	22	17	61	36.07
Danny Wilson	2000	2004	1	226.00	107	55	64	226	47.35
Leroy Rosenior	2000	2000	0	n/a	11	9	6	26	42.31
David Burnside	2000	2000	0	n/a	11	9	6	26	42.31
Tony Fawthrop	2000	2000	0	n/a	11	9	6	26	42.31
Tony Pulis	1999	2000	0	n/a	10	14	9	33	30.30
Benny Lennartsson	1998	1999	0	n/a	6	9	16	31	19.35
John Ward	1997	1998	1	84.00	38	19	27	84	45.24
Joe Jordan	1994	1997	0	n/a	42	37	51	130	32.31
Russell Osman	1993	1994	0	n/a	30	30	32	92	32.61
Denis Smith	1992	1993	0	n/a	15	12	21	48	31.25
Jimmy Lumsden	1990	1992	0	n/a	27	17	32	76	35.53
Joe Jordan	1988	1990	1	134.00	68	30	36	134	50.75
Terry Cooper	1982	1988	2	150.50	127	84	90	301	42.19
Roy Hodgson	1982	1982	0	n/a	3	5	12	20	15.00
Bobby Houghton	1980	1982	0	n/a	14	22	25	61	22.95
Alan Dicks	1967	1980	1	611.00	202	174	235	611	33.06
Fred Ford	1960	1967	1	362.00	145	100	117	362	40.06
Peter Doherty	1958	1960	0	n/a	34	15	49	98	34.69
Pat Beasley	1950	1958	1	354.00	162	77	115	354	45.76
Bob Wright	1949	1950	0	n/a	17	15	21	53	32.08
Bob Hewison	1932	1949	0	n/a	170	116	173	459	37.04
Joe Bradshaw	1929	1932	0	n/a	32	26	61	119	26.89
Alex Raisbeck	1921	1929	2	168.00	143	80	113	336	42.56
Joe Palmer	1919	1921	0	n/a	39	33	34	106	36.79
George Hedley	1913	1915	0	n/a	32	19	34	85	37.65
Sam Hollis	1911	1913	0	n/a	27	21	44	92	29.35
Frank Bacon	1910	1911	0	n/a	6	2	8	16	37.50
Henry 'Harry' Thickett	1905	1910	1	223.00	99	55	69	223	44.39
Sam Hollis	1901	1905	0	n/a	69	24	40	133	51.88
Sam Hollis	1897	1899	0	n/a	0	0	1	1	0.00

Based on figures alone , and I wouldn't have any great argument with any of the conclusion but in terms of the Post Dicks era it suggests (Consdiering win percentages and at what level)

1) Gary Johnson was the best manager we've had since Dicks - The only manager to take us into and sustain us in the Championship (Joe Jordan first time around was very much on the positive side of that path, albeit too briefly)

2) Both Joe Jordan (First time around) and Steve Cotterrill follow , both with the thought

'We were on the right lines , what might have been'

(The end of SCs era sadly spoilt that a bit and is a shame as I don't think it gives a reflection of his ability to manage at this level)

[jayjay]

If Johnson gets sacked (which I doubt), perhaps we could approach Sam Hollis to take over.

[Mr Popodopolous]

3 hours ago, Jurassic said:

You utter dildo. For most of that period it was "summer hols" !!!!

 

Still- 3 months to win a game in LEAGUE ONE is shocking, no doubt about it- as that's how long it took for our first win that season, the end of October 2013.

That to me is the bigger red flag, we can say we had been mismanaged for a while and were dropping out of the Championship...but to continue that slump for nearly 3 months.

[glynriley]

8 minutes ago, jayjay said:

If Johnson gets sacked (which I doubt), perhaps we could approach Sam Hollis to take over.

We'd end up with Reg Hollis.

[22A]

Houghton & Hodgeson both had success elsewhere, but not at AG. Poor set of players or of pitch situations neither could deal with?

[Lack of Action Man]

Pub quiz question in those stats! Name the city manager(s) who have overseen a 0% win ratio in their time!

Also Danny Wilson with over 100 wins in 4 years and yet still no promotion. Blimey!

Come back DW, all is forgiven*

 

 

 

 

 

*Except not playing Lita.

[REDOXO]

14 minutes ago, OddBallJim said:

Pub quiz question in those stats! Name the city manager(s) who have overseen a 0% win ratio in their time!

Also Danny Wilson with over 100 wins in 4 years and yet still no promotion. Blimey!

Come back DW, all is forgiven*

 

 

 

 

 

*Except not playing Lita.

Never.....No Lita cost us the match....A Johnsonesque failure!

[22A]

An amendment to that table. Bob Hewison was Manager from 1932 - 1949, but at the end of 37-38 he was suspended for a year by a league & FA Commission. Clarrie Bourton took over for that 12 month gap and under him City climbed to eight in the 38-39 season, City's best position for eleven years. You've heard of player/managers. In September 1939 as a war time economy measure, Hewison became Secretary/Manager. His duties involved maintaining the ground, organising matches and with some of the first team enlisted, recruiting guest players. As he was stationed near Bath, Bill Shankley was one of severable notables who turned out for City.

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On 02/03/2017 at 20:56, Super said:

Least the other tried and failed. He was just a gutless waste of space.

Coppells departure still a very strange one for me. Living in Oz & not getting the all the news I've got mixed feelings between "a gutless waste of space" or a man of principals that wasn't allowed to apply them & said stuff it. Has the full/true story ever been made public?. If someone knows the facts could they please enlighten me.