Robbored Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 22 minutes ago, Super said: He was all over the place but he wasn't really helped by the Captain. It was obvious that there should have been a few warm up games to get these bowlers familiar with conditions. It's a difficult enough task for experienced players. What's the saying again Fail to Prepare - Prepare to Fail! It’s usual for international teams to play warm up games wherever they’re playing and I’m not sure why England didn’t play any in India. Not sure who’s responsibility it is to organise the pre test playing schedule but I daresay there are explanations as to why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 I’m not saying it’s right, as it isn’t, but warm up games have largely died off for all countries. It’s not unique to this tour, it’s happens pretty much all the time now. This England team didn’t even arrive in the country until earlier this week as they decided they’d rather train (play golf) in UAE. Used to love watching Somerset play games before the test series against the touring team, unless I’m forgetting one they haven’t had one since Pakistan in 2016 as like I said, warm up games don’t really exist anymore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, bearded_red said: I’m not saying it’s right, as it isn’t, but warm up games have largely died off for all countries. It’s not unique to this tour, it’s happens pretty much all the time now. This England team didn’t even arrive in the country until earlier this week as they decided they’d rather train (play golf) in UAE. Used to love watching Somerset play games before the test series against the touring team, unless I’m forgetting one they haven’t had one since Pakistan in 2016 as like I said, warm up games don’t really exist anymore. Yeah, the calendar means there's now barely any time for warmups and when they do take place they're against inferior opposition (e.g county 2nd XIs over here) that doesn't really do an awful lot for the touring team other than getting used to the conditions. England are actually going back to the UAE in the break between the 2nd and 3rd Tests. Their argument is that they can control where and when they train and how they use the pitches, which they wouldn't be allowed to do in India. And it definitely has nothing to do with the golf course down the road from their base in Abu Dhabi.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, bearded_red said: I’m not saying it’s right, as it isn’t, but warm up games have largely died off for all countries. It’s not unique to this tour, it’s happens pretty much all the time now. This England team didn’t even arrive in the country until earlier this week as they decided they’d rather train (play golf) in UAE. Used to love watching Somerset play games before the test series against the touring team, unless I’m forgetting one they haven’t had one since Pakistan in 2016 as like I said, warm up games don’t really exist anymore. I seem to recall us playing Shoib Aktar for a game v the touring Ausies can't recall the year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, TonyTonyTony said: Im not actually watching it, but is there any turn at all? There seemed to be more for India. Hartley got one to rear up and jump and Leach got a few off line , but not much from what I saw compared to when we batted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 (edited) 12 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: There seemed to be more for India. Hartley got one to rear up and jump and Leach got a few off line , but not much from what I saw compared to when we batted. We batted first because the pitch will deteriorate over the 5 days so it made sense to bat first when the pitch was as docile as its going to be. The Indian spinners got the ball to turn relatively quickly and 7 English wickets fell to spin. Bumrah took the other two, including Stokes who was clean bowled. Edited January 25 by Robbored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 53 minutes ago, B1ackbird said: I seem to recall us playing Shoib Aktar for a game v the touring Ausies can't recall the year... Had Andrew Strauss as a ringer for a game against India as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 5 hours ago, Robbored said: It’s usual for international teams to play warm up games wherever they’re playing and I’m not sure why England didn’t play any in India. Not sure who’s responsibility it is to organise the pre test playing schedule but I daresay there are explanations as to why. Pretty sure it’s not usual anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Pretty sure it’s not usual anymore Why do you suppose that every visiting international tram play different Counties prior to playing test matches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Why do you suppose that every visiting international tram play different Counties prior to playing test matches? Who does that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 47 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Who does that? All visiting test teams to our shores play fixtures against county sides before the test series begin. Ive seen the Aussies play against Somerset every Ashes series for years. I’ve also seen SA at Taunton. It an essential part of them getting accustomed to English conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Robbored said: All visiting test teams to our shores play fixtures against county sides before the test series begin. Ive seen the Aussies play against Somerset every Ashes series for years. I’ve also seen SA at Taunton. It an essential part of them getting accustomed to English conditions. Australia haven’t played Somerset since 2013 and have been on 3 Ashes tours since then so once again you’re chatting absolute bollocks. Australia last summer 0 games against counties. South Africa the summer before 0 games against counties. New Zealand and India the summer before that 0 games against counties. Do you seriously never get bored of being wrong about literally everything? Edited January 26 by bearded_red 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 8 hours ago, Robbored said: All visiting test teams to our shores play fixtures against county sides before the test series begin. Ive seen the Aussies play against Somerset every Ashes series for years. I’ve also seen SA at Taunton. It an essential part of them getting accustomed to English conditions. What used to happen and what happens now are not the same thing 7 hours ago, bearded_red said: Australia haven’t played Somerset since 2013 and have been on 3 Ashes tours since then so once again you’re chatting absolute bollocks. Australia last summer 0 games against counties. South Africa the summer before 0 games against counties. New Zealand and India the summer before that 0 games against counties. Do you seriously never get bored of being wrong about literally everything? But he put ‘all’ in bold?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 We’ve found a genius tactic to be fair of managing to have them out caught at cow corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Interesting tactics , if I have this right we bowl half trackers in the hope their batters smash one in the air, in between 6's of course. 42 lead with 5 wickets left, ain't looking promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 This test is clearly done it's difficult to see any changes that England can make for the next test that will change the result. 5-0 incoming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Aussies might actually find themselves with a bit of a deficit v the West Indies . Suspect we will lose by an innings or maybe a few wickets . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, Super said: This test is clearly done it's difficult to see any changes that England can make for the next test that will change the result. 5-0 incoming I'd love to argue, but no warm up games for a team that usually starts a series slowly was asking for trouble. Add that the attack is like a Junior team with Root , a good part time spinner , it doesn't look good. Wood doesn't play many back to back Tests either , only Anderson as an experienced replacement . Anything other than 5-0 is hard to argue for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Well we are going to get a lead at least . Pope digging in . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Superb from Pope. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Well batted from Pope. Just saw a City shirt too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Exceptional innings from Pope, lots of guts shown as well as plenty of skill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Great innings from Pope. What sort of lead gives England half a chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 1 minute ago, MichaelRobartes said: Great innings from Pope. What sort of lead gives England half a chance? Just going to ask the same. I guess as the pitch is getting more variable bounce and turn , if we ball well we have a chance if they get enough. Maybe 150-180 and I would think we could make a game of it, sadly that feels a long way away atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 10 minutes ago, MichaelRobartes said: Great innings from Pope. What sort of lead gives England half a chance? As close to 200 as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 I said we wouldn't score over 300 in any innings glad It looks like i was wrong this really has been a superb effort 2nd innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 33 minutes ago, MichaelRobartes said: Great innings from Pope. What sort of lead gives England half a chance? Anything above 200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 6th no ball from Jadeja. How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 One of the best innings by an Englishman abroad ever ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 I reckon we will need over 250 lead pushing to 300 to make a game of it. If the lead is 200 I reckon we would lose by about 4 or 5 wickets. Our spinners aren’t good enough right now even in favourable conditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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