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16 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

Foakes has a a good test

and gets better with every missed stumping and catch.

 

I think we are going to need a major slice ( or several slices) of luck to come out of this with a Win.

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5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Bit unfair on Bairstow really. His keeping has been excellent for England. It’s a bad test from someone who hasn’t kept for nearly a year. 

I love Bairstow, never really let England down keeping , and worth his place batting.
I would still play a specialist Keeper every time. Been harsh on Foakes too. 

 

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4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Bit unfair on Bairstow really. His keeping has been excellent for England. It’s a bad test from someone who hasn’t kept for nearly a year. 

Should we be picking players that aren't ready for test cricket? We dont have time to play players into form.

Same as Moeen, though replacements for him are slim admittedly. 

Could he have played in the last Yorkshire game maybe?

Love Bairstow but asking him to keep in an Ashes test clearly under prepared seems odd to me

 

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11 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

Should we be picking players that aren't ready for test cricket? We dont have time to play players into form.

Same as Moeen, though replacements for him are slim admittedly. 

Could he have played in the last Yorkshire game maybe?

Love Bairstow but asking him to keep in an Ashes test clearly under prepared seems odd to me

 

Can certainly see it both ways. A lot of 50/50 calls really I guess.  The glaring errors are not in selection but our approach to batting on a road 

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7 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Can certainly see it both ways. A lot of 50/50 calls really I guess.  The glaring errors are not in selection but our approach to batting on a road 

Yeah at the end of the day we’re debating because that’s what the forum is for but none of us really know all the ins and outs. Plus we’re using hindsight, I’d have been quiet about Foakes if Bairstow had kept as well as he can admittedly.

As for the test overall, I’m a fan of Bazball but there has to be a time when you look at the game and do what’s best to win the test at that moment and I don’t think we’ve executed those skills well enough in this test.

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2 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

Yeah at the end of the day we’re debating because that’s what the forum is for but none of us really know all the ins and outs. Plus we’re using hindsight, I’d have been quiet about Foakes if Bairstow had kept as well as he can admittedly.

As for the test overall, I’m a fan of Bazball but there has to be a time when you look at the game and do what’s best to win the test at that moment and I don’t think we’ve executed those skills well enough in this test.

Yep I get whacking it everywhere if you are batting on a mine of a wicket where one ball could have your name on it at any point. But sometimes you just have to play proper cricket shots. 

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