Diedhiou

[Phileas Fogg]

What do we reckon then?

Built on his good display vs Twente for me.

Very busy and hard working, tracks back well and creates opportunities for others. Will be a handful for opposition defences with his strength, power and athleticism. Some very intelligent passes and layoffs to other players too.

Not an instinctive poacher like Abraham I don't think, nor is he a speedy unpredictable dribbler type like Kodjia.

He has some very good strengths in his own right - has the workrate of Agard but with the power and strength of Brooker - with more vision, athleticism and technical nous than both.

Very promising signs and seems to have bonded with the team really well. Excited to see more of him.

 

[Dolman_Stand]

WOrked very hard, linked up well but think his first touch may let him down when in front of goal

[Londoner]

Won't get the goals of kodjia or Tammy....will create goals for others e.g the first one.

Reminded me of Wilbs more than the former listed.

[MC RISK77]

Plays right on the last man..all we were looking for first half was dink over the top to try and get him in on goal...we looked more direct than ever under Johnson today...I liked it really liked it

[MC RISK77]

Just now, Londoner said:

Won't get the goals of kodjia or Tammy....will create goals for others e.g the first one.

Reminded me of Wilbs more than the former listed.

Far too early to say he won't score goals like those two

[petehinton]

Like he's been here for years. Link up play is superb. Not at all raw like Kodjia was when he first joined. 

[Phileas Fogg]

1 minute ago, Londoner said:

Won't get the goals of kodjia or Tammy....will create goals for others e.g the first one.

Reminded me of Wilbs more than the former listed.

I can see a bit of Wilbraham in him too, but a bit more mobile and with a more dangerous all round game that made me think of Brooker.

I digress, but an injury-free Brooker would've been great in this division I think..

[Red Army 75]

I think he done well. But I think his biggest attribute. Is his link up and hold play. Very impressed. Agree with LJ other players will benefit from his play. 

[And Its Smith]

Can't see him scoring more than 15 goals which means everyone else needs to step up. Also don't see that being a problem. Think half the team had shots today if not more!

[lenred]

1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said:

I can see a bit of Wilbraham in him too, but a bit more mobile and with a more dangerous all round game that made me think of Brooker.

I digress, but an injury-free Brooker would've been great in this division I think..

Agree, we were talking about Brooker today. He would've been a big big threat in this division, such a shame that his injuries buggered his career up, was a great striker. 

[BobBobSuperBob]

Will punch holes in defences and open up opportunities for others (a la the first)

stronger than Tammy and possibly does more 'defensively'

Won't get as many as Tammy but good player and signining by the looks

 

Was thinking - imagine him and Tammy up front together !!!

 

#ReturnoftheCHIEF

 

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Londoner said:

Won't get the goals of kodjia or Tammy....will create goals for others e.g the first one.

Reminded me of Wilbs more than the former listed.

Agree 're wilbs. Disagree re goals though. Looks like he will need 5 chances to score sure, but through his industry he will get many chances a game. Very, very excited about him. 

[Davefevs]

Good all round player.  I so like seeing a player who can play off either foot comfortably.

Links it well, but also a threat in behind, even without blistering pace.  Very good awareness of others too, both back to goal and when he has pulled off defender.

A lot to like on early impressions.

Said it before but he reminds me of the ex-Arsenal, ex-Everton player, Kevin Campbell.

[Red-Robbo]

Strong, direct, aggressive and a very decent debut.

Was knackered in the last 10 minutes though, so perhaps the Wilbs comparison is not a million miles out. 

 

[David Brent]

Definitely get the Brooker comparison. I was impressed. He worked very hard, despite how much he was struggling towards the end.

Not very quick but his game is about so much more. 

Also, great for him to score so early in his city career after such a big fee.

[David Brent]

4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Strong, direct, aggressive and a very decent debut.

Was knackered in the last 10 minutes though, so perhaps the Wilbs comparison is not a million miles out. 

 

I'm guessing he's slightly behind in his fitness and not quite ready for 90 minutes just yet.

[BobBobSuperBob]

[Red-Robbo]

2 minutes ago, David Brent said:

I'm guessing he's slightly behind in his fitness and not quite ready for 90 minutes just yet.

Certainly the case today. Would've been nice for Bob to have stayed on and given him maybe another 14 minutes to press for a hatrick. 

[Leveller]

24 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Will punch holes in defences and open up opportunities for others (a la the first)

stronger than Tammy and possibly does more 'defensively'

Won't get as many as Tammy but good player and signining by the looks

 

Was thinking - imagine him and Tammy up front together !!!

 

#ReturnoftheCHIEF

 

Yep - more Allison or Akinbiyi for me.

[Erithacus]

Looked to link up well with others and didn't go head-down for goal every time - spread play when it was the better option. Good application and seems to want to give the centre halves a rough ride - usually with a well-timed shoulder. If he's left one-on-one and the ball is lofted over the top, he shows a distinct appetite.

[Dastardly and Muttley]

Was also really pleased with his defensive contribution. Won two clear defensive headers from corners and really helped out there. Shows his team ethic and will to win. Really liked him today, good debut.

[Milan djurichimovic]

Was like a mix of  Enoch Showunmiand and Lionel Messi 

[LilRascal]

Reminded me of Heskey & Brooker 

 

[Calculus]

Am sure this must have been covered on other theads but if anyone knows the answer I'd be grateful: 

What the hell is it with the Kodjia style arm bandage?

Is Angers a particularly rough place?

[Esmond Million's Bung]

2 minutes ago, Calculus said:

Am sure this must have been covered on other theads but if anyone knows the answer I'd be grateful: 

What the hell is it with the Kodjia style arm bandage?

Is Angers a particularly rough place?

Not at all.

I think they are just trying to fit in here in the UK by paying homage to Keith Lemon.

[ralphindevon]

He was struggling from 65 minutes onwards, very surprised LJ didn't take him off but at least he's now got 90 minutes under his belt.

I don't think we can judge for a month or 2 but a debut goal is all you can ask. 

[The Fat Controller]

20 minutes ago, Calculus said:

Am sure this must have been covered on other theads but if anyone knows the answer I'd be grateful: 

What the hell is it with the Kodjia style arm ?

Is Angers a particularly rough place?

Angers players initiation is a particularly vigorous Chinese burn.

[cityexile]

Very decent first game, liked what I saw.

Would like him to have another half a yard of pace, but maybe that is being greedy, and yes not 100% match fit or so it seemed.

[stroudy]

9 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

He was struggling from 65 minutes onwards, very surprised LJ didn't take him off but at least he's now got 90 minutes under his belt.

I don't think we can judge for a month or 2 but a debut goal is all you can ask. 

I thought this as well but then thought it was better to keep him on for the minutes for his fitness to improve

[bearded_red]

One negative was during the second half  when Reid zipped the ball across the six yard box Diedhiou was out near the edge of the box rather than getting himself a tap in.

Would be wrong to keep harping back to him, but no doubt our number nine last season would have been there in the danger area.

[Guest Crossy]

Judging by today he looks really promising. Got himself into real goalscoring positions and caused a lot of havoc on the box. Always looking to get in behind and has a proper first touch. This is the fifth best league in the world mind!

Once he gets used to the pace of the championship and the dirty tactics that you wouldn't get away with in France he'll be flying.

[AppyDAZE]

+ didn't look like the selfish, annoying bastd JK looked at times. looks a better team player. I'm optimistic I admit

[cityred exile]

3 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

What do we reckon then?

Built on his good display vs Twente for me.

Very busy and hard working, tracks back well and creates opportunities for others. Will be a handful for opposition defences with his strength, power and athleticism. Some very intelligent passes and layoffs to other players too.

Not an instinctive poacher like Abraham I don't think, nor is he a speedy unpredictable dribbler type like Kodjia.

He has some very good strengths in his own right - has the workrate of Agard but with the power and strength of Brooker - with more vision, athleticism and technical nous than both.

Very promising signs and seems to have bonded with the team really well. Excited to see more of him.

 

Couldn't have put any better  totally agree with you  mate

[TV Tom]

Well, going on today's performance he's a million miles behind our two strikers of the last two seasons but early days I suppose 

[Londoner]

Just now, harrys said:

Well, going on today's performance he's a million miles behind our two strikers of the last two seasons but early days I suppose 

Sorry but that even made me laugh. 

[Tom]

3 minutes ago, harrys said:

Well, going on today's performance he's a million miles behind our two strikers of the last two seasons but early days I suppose 

I don't see that, at all...

[BRISTOL86]

Liked him a lot. Think in total he'll be involved in more goals than Kodjia. 15 plus  15 assists better than 25 goals. 

His intelligence and link up with others was excellent. Kodjia wanted to beat the world single handedly - FD seems to have more maturity about recognising when someone else is in a better position. 

[Tom]

Just now, BRISTOL86 said:

Liked him a lot. Think in total he'll be involved in more goals than Kodjia. 15 plus  15 assists better than 25 goals. 

His intelligence and link up with others was excellent. Kodjia wanted to beat the world single handedly - FD seems to have more maturity about recognising when someone else is in a better position. 

I agree, you could constantly see FD looking to track back, moving in to the channels if needs be. Good defensive set pieces. He played with his head up, Kodjia was good but it was always head down football. Whoever plays with FD is going to have a field day, as it proved today.

[fRed]

The new Pinamonte.

[Phileas Fogg]

16 minutes ago, tinman85 said:

Had a decent game. Not a Kodjia or Tammy but a very effective target man in the Adebola mould. 

Totally different style of player to Kodjia and Abraham.. not necessarily any worse

Also he's pretty different to Adebola.. Funnily enough that's not the laziest comparison, I'm sure I heard someone texted RB saying he was similar to Kodjia when he's clearly totally different. 

[Milan djurichimovic]

Can't see him being paired with Đurić at all even though they would be a handful together 

[Guest]

A lot of comments about pace, didn't see anyone slow myself. I think he'd keep pace with most centre backs this year; he'd have gone by ours last year.

Honestly not sure I would want him quicker anyway if it detracted from his strength - especially because he showed today glimpses of very good intelligence and vision to take the ball in and release a winger. Remember saying after Kodjia's debut I'll enjoy him whilst here; I got that feeling today too.

I'm not concerned he appeared to lack composure either. Kodjia needed a few chances to score and missed many sitters. But like Kodjia, i can see many chances a game for each. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Milan djurichimovic said:

Can't see him being paired with Đurić at all even though they would be a handful together 

If we get a flying winger in, like this Swedish lad (or preferably Albert back partly funded by Flint ); these two could be lethal. 

[RobintheRed Red]

6 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

What do we reckon then?

Built on his good display vs Twente for me.

Very busy and hard working, tracks back well and creates opportunities for others. Will be a handful for opposition defences with his strength, power and athleticism. Some very intelligent passes and layoffs to other players too.

Not an instinctive poacher like Abraham I don't think, nor is he a speedy unpredictable dribbler type like Kodjia.

He has some very good strengths in his own right - has the workrate of Agard but with the power and strength of Brooker - with more vision, athleticism and technical nous than both.

Very promising signs and seems to have bonded with the team really well. Excited to see more of him.

 

Great to see he leads the line well wasnt offside once

[samo II]

Be interesting to see if his game changes if he gets the chance to play with Đurić; perhaps we'd see more of a poacher if he had to do less work (though one assist and goal on debut; what more do we want).

With the likes of Brownhill, Paterson and Bryan buzzing around two big men, you could end up really testing teams, if you put to big units up top.

All in all; decent contribution, and sure our 'makeshift' front two will have sky high confidence at the second.

[Major Isewater]

5 hours ago, RobintheRed Red said:

Great to see he leads the line well wasnt offside once

He  was , once .

[cidered abroad]

Impressed by his good work. In second half, he lost the ball just inside Barnsley penalty area. Ran half the length of the pitch to win it back. That was twenty minutes from time and he was absolutely knackered after.

A goal, good link play and team effort. Appears to be good value for £5 million.

[cidercity1987]

Add Kodjia's trickery, Abraham's poaching to Diedhiou's link up play and you get the perfect striker.

However we are Bristol City not Barce and Diedhiou's talents as they are will do for me.

[Taz]

Very impressed with his workrate, linkup play, and the fact that he doesn't look like he's going to be easy to push off the ball. 

I think that once he's up to speed with the tempo of the game here, he is going to cause a lot of problems. Scoring a goal on his league debut also won't do him any harm either... 

[JBFC II]

1 minute ago, Thatch35 said:

Looks far from a goal scorer what city need. Anyone can play up top and work hard and link play but a goal scorer is needed. Reid had another pre-season game against a poor barnsley.  At the moment stop Reid and city have no goals. Funny talking about Ried as some sort of striker because that he never will be. So I know it's early days but 5.3m on a 'hard worker' isn't required, Taylor can do that every week easy and is probably a better goal scorer. Big gamble, hope it pays off and if does score 20 goals he will be off for 15m next summer!!

If teams stopped Tammy last season we would have had no goals, bit of an odd way of looking at things

I'd say Diedhiou is more than a hard worker, he can score goals and will if given the chances, brilliant header yesterday and he could very easily get 15 plus imo

[Guest Ashton Red]

Whilst he doesn't have the pace/dribbling skills of Kodjia he also looks like he knows how to play the game!! Was impressed with his work rate, tracked back (particularly behind Bryan) a few times to help out too.

[1bristolcity]

4 minutes ago, Thatch35 said:

Might as well play Aiden Flint up front he can do that and better. Also he is just as quick and is 'so far' a better championship goal scorer!!

I think you might be having a smoke screen moment here, surely the success is not in the detail as to who will /won't score the goals, but more of the way the team is being coached, bright, working hard for each other, team spirit, and not a small amount of skill, which is down to one man in particular....

 

Lee Johnson. 

[Tipps69]

13 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

What do we reckon then?

Built on his good display vs Twente for me.

Very busy and hard working, tracks back well and creates opportunities for others. Will be a handful for opposition defences with his strength, power and athleticism. Some very intelligent passes and layoffs to other players too.

Not an instinctive poacher like Abraham I don't think, nor is he a speedy unpredictable dribbler type like Kodjia.

He has some very good strengths in his own right - has the workrate of Agard but with the power and strength of Brooker - with more vision, athleticism and technical nous than both.

Very promising signs and seems to have bonded with the team really well. Excited to see more of him.

 

Haven't read the rest of the thread so apologies if this has been repeated elsewhere.

The Sky Sports reporter stated that Diedhiou absolutely terrorised Barnsley's defence & they had no answer to him.

All sounded very encouraging to me especially considering he has never played Championship football before.

[BobBobSuperBob]

12 hours ago, bearded_red said:

One negative was during the second half  when Reid zipped the ball across the six yard box Diedhiou was out near the edge of the box rather than getting himself a tap in.

Would be wrong to keep harping back to him, but no doubt our number nine last season would have been there in the danger area.

He certainly would

But the they are different players (FD will score goals that Tammy doesn't ,probably not so many, but will add different things) (e.g. certainly a physicality up to Tammy)

 

No one could have been a bigger fan of Tammy than me but we were not going to replace him with a clone

Plus , the small matter that Tammy is already , probably, a £30 million striker

Easy to compare the two I know , we all will naturally to some degree but think we need to avoid doing so

Just need to make up

a few of TAs goals with a few more from everyone else , a second striker (Bobby or A N Other) and the likes of Patterson , COD , etc 

Wonder  whether JB may get a handful this season & Pisano looked like he might pinch one or two;

Pisano , as a character/ experience/ and the RB position reminds me a bit of Bruno @ Brighton and if he contributes as Bruno has he'll be a good acquisition

 

[BobBobSuperBob]

58 minutes ago, Thatch35 said:

Looks far from a goal scorer what city need. Anyone can play up top and work hard and link play but a goal scorer is needed. Reid had another pre-season game against a poor barnsley.  At the moment stop Reid and city have no goals. Funny talking about Ried as some sort of striker because that he never will be. So I know it's early days but 5.3m on a 'hard worker' isn't required, Taylor can do that every week easy and is probably a better goal scorer. Big gamble, hope it pays off and if does score 20 goals he will be off for 15m next summer!!

He's much more than a hard worker Thatch ! (See my post above)

 

As decent as he is (And I think he will settle and be a good success here) I do look and think , blimey , £5 million + , but that's where footballs gone - hard to comprehend 

[Phileas Fogg]

1 hour ago, Thatch35 said:

Looks far from a goal scorer what city need. Anyone can play up top and work hard and link play but a goal scorer is needed. Reid had another pre-season game against a poor barnsley.  At the moment stop Reid and city have no goals. Funny talking about Ried as some sort of striker because that he never will be. So I know it's early days but 5.3m on a 'hard worker' isn't required, Taylor can do that every week easy and is probably a better goal scorer. Big gamble, hope it pays off and if does score 20 goals he will be off for 15m next summer!!

Do you actually understand football at all? Serious question.

Your interpretation of Diedhiou and Reid's performance and ability shows a limited grasp of how to judge a good player.

Diedhiou is so much more than a workhorse, brings others into play and defends well from the front.

Anyone can work hard, but not all players can contribute to the overall performance as cleverly and effectively as he did yesterday.

As for Reid, all he can do is score. That's exactly what 'some sort of striker' is for. 

[BobBobSuperBob]

4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Do you actually understand football at all? Serious question.

Your interpretation of Diedhiou and Reid's performance and ability shows a limited grasp of how to judge a good player.

Diedhiou is so much more than a workhorse, brings others into play and defends well from the front.

Anyone can work hard, but not all players can contribute to the overall performance as cleverly and effectively as he did yesterday.

As for Reid, all he can do is score. That's exactly what 'some sort of striker' is for. 

And it's not been mentioned as far as I can see but thought his skill and stand up cross for FDs  goal was sublime 

Only matched by Patterson 'give them the eyes ' ball to Bobby prior to it 

What pleased me personally , and something that rung potential goal scorer in BR for me was that on both goals he got in the right place for the scraps / finish , something TA was superb at

 

Unless it was sheer luck (Don't think so ! ) Thats a promising sign of a goal scorer IMHO

 

[Phileas Fogg]

1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

And it's not been mentioned as far as I can see but thought his skill and stand up cross for FDs  goal was sublime 

Only matched by Patterson 'give them the eyes ' ball to Bobby prior to it 

What pleased me personally , and something that rung potential goal scorer in BR for me was that on both goals he got in the right place for the scraps / finish , something TA was superb at

 

Unless it was sheer luck (Don't think so ! ) Thats a promising sign of a goal scorer IMHO

 

It's no coincidence that Reid has survived GJ, Coppell, Millen, Del, SO'D, Cotterill and LJ. They clearly all rate him given how quickly and ruthlessly we've got rid of youth prospects in the past.

Early days but all he can do is keep scoring and making opportunities for others.. would be great to see him fulfil his potential in a position not many of us ever thought of!

[Red Skin]

48 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said:

I think you might be having a smoke screen moment here, surely the success is not in the detail as to who will /won't score the goals, but more of the way the team is being coached, bright, working hard for each other, team spirit, and not a small amount of skill, which is down to one man in particular....

 

Lee Johnson. 

That's the crux of it for me.

Develop standout players and unless you gain promotion they will be snapped up by other clubs.  Develop a team ethic, a way of playing, and goals throughout the team and we become more than the sum of our parts.  If players do leave we can recruit to replace roles within the system rather than recruit to replace individual players. 

I liked what I saw of Diedhiou yesterday.  Intelligent team player with vision, enough initial pace to get an edge on the last man and the strength to get past him.  Early days but promising. 

 

[Northern Red]

1 hour ago, Thatch35 said:

Might as well play Aiden Flint up front he can do that and better. Also he is just as quick and is 'so far' a better championship goal scorer!!

You're doing this on purpose now, aren't you?

[BanburyRed]

Good luck to him in this league.....he's got his first competitive game out of the way and he's scored (although undoubtedly he'll come up against far stronger and meaner defences than the Tykes..), so the immediate pressure is off his shoulders. He'll know what's expected and he'll know the boots he has to fill, but the onus shouldn't be just placed fairly and squarely on his shoulders, the team have a collective responsibility as one to score as well as defend.

He got a great poachers instinct goal yesterday and i'm sure he's thinking to himself, 'this ain't the French league i'm used to!'. Talented, raw, unknown quantity. Let's back him!

[shelts]

14 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

What do we reckon then?

Built on his good display vs Twente for me.

Very busy and hard working, tracks back well and creates opportunities for others. Will be a handful for opposition defences with his strength, power and athleticism. Some very intelligent passes and layoffs to other players too.

Not an instinctive poacher like Abraham I don't think, nor is he a speedy unpredictable dribbler type like Kodjia.

He has some very good strengths in his own right - has the workrate of Agard but with the power and strength of Brooker - with more vision, athleticism and technical nous than both.

Very promising signs and seems to have bonded with the team really well. Excited to see more of him.

 

Your best ever post!!

 

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Tipps69 said:

Haven't read the rest of the thread so apologies if this has been repeated elsewhere.

The Sky Sports reporter stated that Diedhiou absolutely terrorised Barnsley's defence & they had no answer to him.

All sounded very encouraging to me especially considering he has never played Championship football before.

I think the Sky Sports Reporter was exaggerating - but if you read the posts on here, you'll get a fairly accurate view of his he played - which was good.

He is not Tammy, he is not Kodjia....but Tammy and Kodjia aren't Diedhiou either.  The comparisons are futile.  He is more of an all-round footballer than both of those.  Combine all three of them and you'd probably have a £50m striker.

Has lots going for him, two good feet, good intelligence in his movement, gets in good positions as a result....goals 1 & 2 for example.

Exactly the type of display I saw in highlights last season at SCO Angers, having been put on alert of him by @Shtanley 18 months ago.

[Phileas Fogg]

9 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think the Sky Sports Reporter was exaggerating - but if you read the posts on here, you'll get a fairly accurate view of his he played - which was good.

He is not Tammy, he is not Kodjia....but Tammy and Kodjia aren't Diedhiou either.  The comparisons are futile.  He is more of an all-round footballer than both of those.  Combine all three of them and you'd probably have a £50m striker.

Has lots going for him, two good feet, good intelligence in his movement, gets in good positions as a result....goals 1 & 2 for example.

Exactly the type of display I saw in highlights last season at SCO Angers, having been put on alert of him by @Shtanley 18 months ago.

@Shtanley knows his stuff.. been a big advocate of Reid for a long time.

His latest prediction is Lloyd Kelly to blossom this season.. worth keeping an eye on given Shtanley's track record.

[Charlie BCFC]

1 hour ago, Thatch35 said:

Looks far from a goal scorer what city need. Anyone can play up top and work hard and link play but a goal scorer is needed. Reid had another pre-season game against a poor barnsley.  At the moment stop Reid and city have no goals. Funny talking about Ried as some sort of striker because that he never will be. So I know it's early days but 5.3m on a 'hard worker' isn't required, Taylor can do that every week easy and is probably a better goal scorer. Big gamble, hope it pays off and if does score 20 goals he will be off for 15m next summer!!

How many did you expect Reid and Diedhiou to score as a partnership? 6? Thought Diedhiou and Reid work incredibly well together as a partnership let's hope it carries on.

[shelts]

15 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

I can see a bit of Wilbraham in him too

I dont want to see that 

[ColeCiderRed]

37 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

It's no coincidence that Reid has survived GJ, Coppell, Millen, Del, SO'D, Cotterill and LJ. They clearly all rate him given how quickly and ruthlessly we've got rid of youth prospects in the past.

Early days but all he can do is keep scoring and making opportunities for others.. would be great to see him fulfil his potential in a position not many of us ever thought of!

Definitely esp LJ as he played with him and now manages him. Fair point there.

[shelts]

He looks a good footballer . Strong in all areas . I like the way he just slotted in and looked like hes been playing for us for years. A truly modern pro. Big unit in all

[Judda]

If I read "it was only Barnsley ' one more time!

We can only play the team in front of us and I think we did that brilliantly. Bobby and FD worked really well together and were real handfuls.  What more could you ask for?

I know we'll have tougher test but last be positive and feel encouraged 

[Luxo Jr.]

9 hours ago, 29AR said:

If we get a flying winger in, like this Swedish lad (or preferably Albert back partly funded by Flint ); these two could be lethal. 

Eliasson would be much more preferable than Adomah at this moment in my opinion.