Flint and Johson get September Player and manager award

[BCFC Rich]

Article on main sight. https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/city-pair-land-september-honours/

[Elruliri]

Great achievement, very well done to both of them.

[Fordy62]

Fair play to them both. Lets hope we're not hit with the curse!

Many have said it feels very different this time round... and I'd tend to agree. Lets all enjoy this 'up' section of the Bristol City rollercoaster. 

[Vincent Vega]

Happy days.

[Red Army 75]

Wouldn't of thought this was possible a couple of months ago. Fair play to them both. Let's hope there's more to come .

[archie andrews]

lets hope the curse don't happen Friday the 13th v burton.....

[Dolman Block B]

[BRISTOL86]

Well done both. Fully deserved. 

[Major Isewater]

31 minutes ago, Dolman Block B said:

The first of many this season I hope .

As for Flinty , I'm surprised he accepted the award .

( No, no, no. ) 

Seriously, I think any one of our regular first teamers could have won the award . They have , to a man , been outstanding this month .

Well done to everybody.

KEEP YOUR STANDARDS UP.

 

Heads up to the photographer for getting them both in shot ! 

[JBFC II]

Best one yet? 

https://mobile.twitter.com/bcfctweets/status/916168418222538752

[BobBobSuperBob]

Some of those who slated Flint both  in ability , and particularly questioned his committment and attitude might like to reflect 

Well done Lee (And JM / DH as I'm sure Lee would acknowledge)

and Aiden ..... actions rather than words speak volumes big man Top Man

Inspirational 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

11 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Some of those who slated LEE both  in ability , and particularly questioned his committment and attitude might like to reflect 

 

[RedM]

Well done, first of many I hope. Fingers crossed it's a boost not a curse. Very professional of them both how they have handled the speculation surrounding Flinty's possible move and put it behind them, at least until January. 

[BobBobSuperBob]

19 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Unlike you to make a little sneer or comment

Been there - am there , and have said so publicly on here numerous times

Looks atm that he learnt a lot from last season and if that is the case - all good by me and I'll keep saying so

Take me back to last March and I'd have been of the same opinion

Good that your opinions and judgements are always on the button though -   when you're not sniping 

Your posts are  insightful

 

 

 

 

[lenred]

Congratulations to both. Very well deserved. Particularly pleased for Flinty as it shows that getting your head down and getting on with your job when the crap is hitting the fan all around you is the best way to go about things as opposed to others who would've thrown their toys out of the pram. A great example to this young team as to how behave in difficult situations for the future. Great work both. 

[Alessandro]

17 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Unlike you to make a little sneer or comment

Been there - am there , and have said so publicly on here numerous times

Looks atm that he learnt a lot from last season and if that is the case - all good by me and I'll keep saying so

Take me back to last March and I'd have been of the same opinion

Good that your opinions and judgements are always on the button though -   when you're not sniping 

Your posts are  insightful

 

 

 

 

If ever there were a pot kettle black situation.

Perhaps we could say the same about Flinty (who has been fantastic BTW, absolutely fair play to him) come Jan or the summer?

Would you say the same thing if he moved on then?

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

8 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Been there - am there and have said so publicly on here numerous times

Looks atm that he learnt a lot from last season and if that is the case - all good by me and I'll keep saying so

Take me back to last March and I'd have been of the same opinion

Good that your opinions and judgements are always on the button though -   when you're not sniping 

 

 

 

 

maybe but then again I wasn't engaging in a malicious anti Johnson campaign where you ,imo, stepped over the line and some of which was into personal territory in dozens of posts. Furthermore , you saw fit to "like" the more extreme views towards our Manager and encourage what was,imo., personal character assassinations. If you want me to remind you of some of the things you said- I'll do this for you and we can then debate who is most adept at sniping.

When myself and a few others continued our support for the "clowns" Johnson and Lansdown- you saw fit to call us uber-fans and  delusional. It was almost a case that supporting Johnson became anti- City.

So yes, I'm enjoying this moment Bob where I feel some of your last season's comments are being rammed back down your throat - so to speak. What goes around comes around and I'm perfectly aware of that working for all of us who hold strong views..

As things stand and contrary to what you said - Lee Johnson is not a clown and Steve Lansdown does appear to know what he's doing and however fleeting or meaningless this Manager of the month accolade is- I suspect it holds very special meaning to them both.

My admiration for Lee Johnson as a human being just increases. He never gave up his belief, never quit and wasn't derailed by some very public animosity. He's continued to build a management team around him and a playing team that's a joy to behold at the moment.

So as you so rightly say Bob:

52 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

and particularly questioned his committment and attitude might like to reflect 

 

 

 

[BobBobSuperBob]

20 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

maybe but then again I wasn't engaging in a malicious anti Johnson campaign where you ,imo, stepped over the line and some of which was into personal territory in dozens of posts. Furthermore , you saw fit to "like" the more extreme views towards our Manager and encourage what was,imo., personal character assassinations. If you want me to remind you of some of the things you said- I'll do this for you and we can then debate who is most adept at sniping.

When myself and a few others continued our support for the "clowns" Johnson and Lansdown- you saw fit to call us uber-fans and  delusional. It was almost a case that supporting Johnson became anti- City.

So yes, I'm enjoying this moment Bob where I feel some of your last season's comments are being rammed back down your throat - so to speak. What goes around comes around and I'm perfectly aware of that working for all of us who hold strong views..

As things stand and contrary to what you said - Lee Johnson is not a clown and Steve Lansdown does appear to know what he's doing and however fleeting or meaningless this Manager of the month accolade is- I suspect it holds very special meaning to them both.

My admiration for Lee Johnson as a human being just increases. He never gave up his belief, never quit and wasn't derailed by some very public animosity. He's continued to build a management team around him and a playing team that's a joy to behold at the moment.

So as you so rightly say Bob:

 

 

 

Like your Manager ''crushes'  don't ya 

 

Not so good at judging players though 

 

 

Glad you enjoying whatever you are claiming to be enjoying - says all about you !

 

 

[Ska Junkie]

10 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

maybe but then again I wasn't engaging in a malicious anti Johnson campaign where you ,imo, stepped over the line and some of which was into personal territory in dozens of posts. Furthermore , you saw fit to "like" the more extreme views towards our Manager and encourage what was,imo., personal character assassinations. If you want me to remind you of some of the things you said- I'll do this for you and we can then debate who is most adept at sniping.

When myself and a few others continued our support for the "clowns" Johnson and Lansdown- you saw fit to call us uber-fans and  delusional. It was almost a case that supporting Johnson became anti- City.

So yes, I'm enjoying this moment Bob where I feel some of your last season's comments are being rammed back down your throat - so to speak. What goes around comes around and I'm perfectly aware of that working for all of us who hold strong views..

As things stand and contrary to what you said - Lee Johnson is not a clown and Steve Lansdown does appear to know what he's doing and however fleeting or meaningless this Manager of the month accolade is- I suspect it holds very special meaning to them both.

My admiration for Lee Johnson as a human being just increases. He never gave up his belief, never quit and wasn't derailed by some very public animosity. He's continued to build a management team around him and a playing team that's a joy to behold at the moment.

So as you so rightly say Bob:

 

 

 

Sorry MRR but I'm with Bob here. Personally, I think LJ was very fortunate to keep his job last season and have, frequently, admitted he is / has proven me wrong. That doesn't change the fact that people, myself and Bob included, wanted him gone last season for good reasons. So, we were wrong, big deal but the point still stands that he was fortunate to survive.

A forum without differing opinions would be very boring and I would, respectfully, suggest respecting those opinions is part and parcel of being on here.

You were right, we were wrong, well done. Let's get over it eh as a lot of threads seem to descend into condemnations for opinions last season which is getting rather tiresome don't you think? Those opinions were in support of the club which we all want to see success at and were, with all possible respect, justified at the time.

Congratulations to LJ and Flinty, well deserved.

[Lanterne Rouge]

2 hours ago, archie andrews said:

lets hope the curse don't happen Friday the 13th v burton.....

Didn`t someone do a study once about the perceived curse and discovered it wasn`t true and results weren`t affected at all - it was just something football fans believed to be true, a bit like ten men being more difficult to beat. That wasn`t true either.

Who`d have thought that football fans would believe in superstitions and ignore all evidence to the contrary eh?

Now where are my lucky pants?

 

[lenred]

36 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

If ever there were a pot kettle black situation.

Perhaps we could say the same about Flinty (who has been fantastic BTW, absolutely fair play to him) come Jan or the summer?

Would you say the same thing if he moved on then?

Why can't you and others just enjoy the upturn we are seeing instead of sniping? Just gets really boring people always looking for a dig at those who dared question LJs tenure last season. Most people have got over it and accept that wanting him gone at the worst point of last season was a valid option, even if they didn't agree. A massive well done to you and those of you who didn't think that getting rid was the right thing to do.  We get it. You were right. But a forum is about opinions. Constant digs at those who hold differing opinions to you is petty. Let's just crack on and enjoy what's happening now. 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Like your Manager ''crushes'  don't ya 

 

Not so good at judging players though 

 

 

Is that the best you can do?

Yep- I got it wrong about Matt Smith but never wandered into personal insult territory- I watched him for 4 goaless games and my flawed judgement was that he was awful and the rest is history. However I did  seem to get it very right with Flint and particularly Bobby Reid. 2-1 is not an appalling result about players so far but don't you find, Bob, that you're only ever reminded of when you get things spectacularly wrong not when you get something awfully right?

It's good that we've got each other to remind ourselves that we are but mere mortals.

 

[GrahamC]

Completely deserved by LJ and he deserves considerable admiration and respect for the job he has done so far this season.

I have to say though I am amazed Flint has won, I do like him and he has had a decent month, but I don't even think he has been our best CB in September, let alone the best Championship player in that month.

Maybe it shows how good we have been that I would rate Reid, Baker, Diedhiou, Paterson and Bryan all above him for last month. Maybe Frankie as well.

I can only assume the goals he scored have influenced the panel?

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

10 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Sorry MRR but I'm with Bob here. Personally, I think LJ was very fortunate to keep his job last season and have, frequently, admitted he is / has proven me wrong. That doesn't change the fact that people, myself and Bob included, wanted him gone last season for good reasons. So, we were wrong, big deal but the point still stands that he was fortunate to survive.

A forum without differing opinions would be very boring and I would, respectfully, suggest respecting those opinions is part and parcel of being on here.

You were right, we were wrong, well done. Let's get over it eh as a lot of threads seem to descend into condemnations for opinions last season which is getting rather tiresome don't you think? Those opinions were in support of the club which we all want to see success at and were, with all possible respect, justified at the time.

Congratulations to LJ and Flinty, well deserved.

I agree. LJ was very very fortunate indeed to keep his job and pretty much any other club in the entire football league would have sacked him but thankfully we're not "any other club". My point was not about having a considered opinion but straying into the realms of deeply personal insults which have nothing to do with managerial ability.

And yes, it's good to have a wide gambit of opinions and what makes this forum so enjoyable. But Bob has politely reminded me of my thoughts on Matt Smith some 3 seasons ago whilst I'm reminding him of his thoughts on Lee Johnson last season.

All good fun 

I'm just hoping that when Lee falters next ( which he will) that this time around - the comments will surround his coaching ability not his diminutive stature or seemingly sinister bromance with SL or that he takes instructions from a Manager of a League 2 club just up the M5.

[BobBobSuperBob]

13 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Is that the best you can do?

Yep- I got it wrong about Matt Smith but never wandered into personal insult territory- I watched him for 4 goaless games and my flawed judgement was that he was awful and the rest is history. However I did  seem to get it very right with Flint and particularly Bobby Reid. 2-1 is not an appalling result about players so far but don't you find, Bob, that you're only ever reminded of when you get things spectacularly wrong not when you get something awfully right?

It's good that we've got each other to remind ourselves that we are but mere mortals.

 

You keep patting yourself on the back 

I'll just get on with enjoying the ride thanks

 

[wendyredredrobin]

That's done it now. The start of our losing streak and slide down the table.  And I had us down to win our next 3 games before this.

Of course, the best manager in the championship or league 1 is daryll clarke according to the sags. Did he get an award?

[Ska Junkie]

9 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I agree. LJ was very very fortunate indeed to keep his job and pretty much any other club in the entire football league would have sacked him but thankfully we're not "any other club". My point was not about having a considered opinion but straying into the realms of deeply personal insults which have nothing to do with managerial ability.

And yes, it's good to have a wide gambit of opinions and what makes this forum so enjoyable. But Bob has politely reminded me of my thoughts on Matt Smith some 3 seasons ago whilst I'm reminding him of his thoughts on Lee Johnson last season.

All good fun 

I'm just hoping that when Lee falters next ( which he will) that this time around - the comments will surround his coaching ability not his diminutive stature or seemingly sinister bromance with SL or that he takes instructions from a Manager of a League 2 club just up the M5.

Thanks MRR, a fair reply. I will defend Bob here as, like him, I was quite vociferous in wanting LJ gone and posted / read most of the posts last winter. While many did post personal criticism of his stature etc, I don't remember Bob doing it. The only other thing that stood out was one poster's genuine belief and steadfast support for LJ and debate it properly, @Bat Fastard, fair play to you!

In hindsight, with what was happening to his dad, I wonder if LJ could have passed temporary control to his assistants to concentrate on Gary as Lj is now showing what a fine Manager / coach he is. That's just my opinion and would have saved him from a lot of vitriol last season and Gary's predicament must have affected LJ.

[wendyredredrobin]

Flinty has a lot of strengths, but any weaknesses he may have he more than makes up for with effort and commitment.

[EmersonsRed]

Congrats both. Especially Aden. Let's hope having recognised CBs(albeit one at fullback) will allow him to be able to defend against faster strikers... Our back line is naturally deeper this season as opposed to last where it was forced deeper. No doubt he is top notch against larger forwards. Let's see how it translates against whippets.

 

Delighted for both.

[EmersonsRed]

37 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Sorry MRR but I'm with Bob here. Personally, I think LJ was very fortunate to keep his job last season and have, frequently, admitted he is / has proven me wrong. That doesn't change the fact that people, myself and Bob included, wanted him gone last season for good reasons. So, we were wrong, big deal but the point still stands that he was fortunate to survive.

A forum without differing opinions would be very boring and I would, respectfully, suggest respecting those opinions is part and parcel of being on here.

You were right, we were wrong, well done. Let's get over it eh as a lot of threads seem to descend into condemnations for opinions last season which is getting rather tiresome don't you think? Those opinions were in support of the club which we all want to see success at and were, with all possible respect, justified at the time.

Congratulations to LJ and Flinty, well deserved.

I have never asked this question, but it just popped into my head after reading he was fortunate to keep his job. I do agree, despite being Johnson's biggest fan, especially as a coach. However my question is, if we hadn't of had that run where we lost every game for about 3 months and they were spread out, should he have been sacked? For example if we had won, lost, lost, won etc all season? We finished on 54 points (essentially 55 given our goal difference compared to rest of bottom half). Do you think that was an acceptable season on the whole, had it had been a normal season, not breaking every losing record streak we had?

 

Or do you think we under achieved?

[Red Army 75]

34 minutes ago, lenred said:

Why can't you and others just enjoy the upturn we are seeing instead of sniping? Just gets really boring people always looking for a dig at those who dared question LJs tenure last season. Most people have got over it and accept that wanting him gone at the worst point of last season was a valid option, even if they didn't agree. A massive well done to you and those of you who didn't think that getting rid was the right thing to do.  We get it. You were right. But a forum is about opinions. Constant digs at those who hold differing opinions to you is petty. Let's just crack on and enjoy what's happening now. 

Spot on . People need to move on and enjoy whilst it lasts. We should of sacked LJ at the time. It seems I was wrong. It's how it goes. All this I'm right you're wrong is a load of bollocks . 

[Red Army 75]

10 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said:

I have never asked this question, but it just popped into my head after reading he was fortunate to keep his job. I do agree, despite being Johnson's biggest fan, especially as a coach. However my question is, if we hadn't of had that run where we lost every game for about 3 months and they were spread out, should he have been sacked? For example if we had won, lost, lost, won etc all season? We finished on 54 points (essentially 55 given our goal difference compared to rest of bottom half). Do you think that was an acceptable season on the whole, had it had been a normal season, not breaking every losing record streak we had?

 

Or do you think we under achieved?

Good point. I don't think it's acceptable and we underachieved . IMO . It really was a strange season. The start we had no one foreseen what was to happen. Every day I was expecting the announcement of his sacking. I was desperate for him to go at the time. ( Forest game was when I had enough). If LJ at any other club he would of been fired. His managerial career would of been in tatters . But LJ and AF fully deserve there accolades today. 

[BobBobSuperBob]

51 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Thanks MRR, a fair reply. I will defend Bob here as, like him, I was quite vociferous in wanting LJ gone and posted / read most of the posts last winter. While many did post personal criticism of his stature etc, I don't remember Bob doing it. The only other thing that stood out was one poster's genuine belief and steadfast support for LJ and debate it properly, @Bat Fastard, fair play to you!

In hindsight, with what was happening to his dad, I wonder if LJ could have passed temporary control to his assistants to concentrate on Gary as Lj is now showing what a fine Manager / coach he is. That's just my opinion and would have saved him from a lot of vitriol last season and Gary's predicament must have affected LJ.

Thanks Ska

I was opposed to the banners use of words like m****g etc and said so,at the time - but as a a professionall rather than personal label I did call him a clown - not great and clearly wrong , but there we are , was the as far as 'worst I said' and I was surely we're heading down which would have set us back majorly

Interesting how certain posters (Who stand out a mike ) (  though one of the little group seems to be missing in action atm) snipe at particular posters - have you noticed the same effort those that supported the banners , and more insulting adjectives used by some ........ no ? ........ nor me    

((Not that some have a personal agenda of course     and ,  I was the 'Band Leader' of course , apparently )

One of ours was even bigging himself up the other day , polishing his ego , on oppos forum , about how he was 'one of the few'  who stood by LJ !!!!!

He , at the time made many glaring errors  , quite clearly things were at the best turgid behind the scenes and clearly there was a lot to cope with

He has clearly learnt from last season and his good skills are starting to blossom  and fair play to him - I have no personal like r dislike of him - all I care about is the Club and its health

Amazing how some snipers slide out at certain times. - sad really

[AppyDAZE]

19 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Spot on . People need to move on and enjoy whilst it lasts. We should of sacked LJ at the time. It seems I was wrong. It's how it goes. All this I'm right you're wrong is a load of bollocks . 

It's sometimes a bit hard to realise that we all support the same team!

[reddogkev]

3 hours ago, Dolman Block B said:

Quality picture - both guys have true talent and are destined to grace the top division in the near future.

Hopefully, with us next season!

[AppyDAZE]

Pleased for the pair of 'em. Well deserved awards, although I probably would've said Bobby edged.

[Ska Junkie]

26 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said:

I have never asked this question, but it just popped into my head after reading he was fortunate to keep his job. I do agree, despite being Johnson's biggest fan, especially as a coach. However my question is, if we hadn't of had that run where we lost every game for about 3 months and they were spread out, should he have been sacked? For example if we had won, lost, lost, won etc all season? We finished on 54 points (essentially 55 given our goal difference compared to rest of bottom half). Do you think that was an acceptable season on the whole, had it had been a normal season, not breaking every losing record streak we had?

 

Or do you think we under achieved?

A fair question ER.

I guess it's a case of the ends justifying the means. That 3 month period was absolutely dreadful as we all know and, personally, I was happy to survive in the Championship but did expect better TBH. Did we underachieve? In comparison to similar clubs who spent a damn site less, I guess we did.

[Guest]

Well done City

[Kodjias Wrist]

For anyone who reads the very anti Bristol City championship forum, there seems to be a lot of bitter comments towards flint winning it. 

Well dont LJ and Flint although I would have thought Jota would have one it.

[RedKatieScarlett]

17 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Thanks Ska

I was opposed to the banners use of words like m****g etc and said so,at the time - but as a a professionall rather than personal label I did call him a clown - not great and clearly wrong , but there we are , was the as far as 'worst I said' and I was surely we're heading down which would have set us back majorly

Interesting how certain posters (Who stand out a mike ) (  though one of the little group seems to be missing in action atm) snipe at particular posters - have you noticed the same effort those that supported the banners , and more insulting adjectives used by some ........ no ? ........ nor me    

((Not that some have a personal agenda of course     and ,  I was the 'Band Leader' of course , apparently )

One of ours was even bugging himself up the other day , polishing his ego on oppose forum about how he was one of the few who stood by LJ !!!!!

He , at the time made many glaring errors  , quite clearly things were at the best turgid behind the scenes and clearly there was a lot to cope with

He has clearly learnt from last season and his good skills are starting to blossom  and fair play to him - I have no personal like r dislike of him - all I care about is the Club and its health

Amazing how some snipers slide out at certain times. - sad really

I was one of the “little group” and all I have to say is how pleased I am- not at being “right” because to me it was never about that, but because my beloved Bristol City are doing well with a manager I like and playing football that’s good to watch. Whatever we all thought or felt last year let’s just enjoy what we’re getting now!

[bpexile]

3 hours ago, archie andrews said:

lets hope the curse don't happen Friday the 13th v burton.....

Yes indeed, but it is Friday the 13th for both sides, Bugger............in the words of the Kinks "You Really Got Me Now" 

[BobBobSuperBob]

6 minutes ago, RedKatieScarlett said:

I was one of the “little group” and all I have to say is how pleased I am- not at being “right” because to me it was never about that, but because my beloved Bristol City are doing well with a manager I like and playing football that’s good to watch. Whatever we all thought or felt last year let’s just enjoy what we’re getting now!

You are not one of the 'little group' I referred to Katie

You were one of the few who was supportive of LJ throughout,  and fair play 

You dont post that often and the little group I refer to are the ones who post , mainly snipes , sneers and sarcasm , not something I can recall you doing tbf

I can promise you, for all sorts of reasons no one is  happier than I am ATM and the way things are starting to form 

[RiverRed]

Congratulations to Lee and Aden. Well done and well deserved.

As for the constant bitch fights between forum members... OTIB needs a Handbaggers Sub-Forum for this sort of thing. FFS, take it outside and stop boring us with your petty squabbles.

[Major Isewater]

3 hours ago, JBFC II said:

Best one yet? 

https://mobile.twitter.com/bcfctweets/status/916168418222538752

How can we even think of selling Flinty , the guy's a legend ! 

[Alessandro]

2 hours ago, lenred said:

Why can't you and others just enjoy the upturn we are seeing instead of sniping? Just gets really boring people always looking for a dig at those who dared question LJs tenure last season. Most people have got over it and accept that wanting him gone at the worst point of last season was a valid option, even if they didn't agree. A massive well done to you and those of you who didn't think that getting rid was the right thing to do.  We get it. You were right. But a forum is about opinions. Constant digs at those who hold differing opinions to you is petty. Let's just crack on and enjoy what's happening now. 

Hang on there mate. I think you need to get your facts straight.

I haven't sniped at anyone about LJ. Happily apologise if you can quote me.

I remained positive last season during the rot, in the face of sometimes relentless abuse.

I was quietly optimistic pre season and have being enjoying almost every second of this season.

Not once have I said 'I told you so' to anyone.

So in defence of me and others (many of whom were probably scared off OTIB) when I see posters who relentlessly trolled anyone who had an opposite opinion to them, and there were plenty on here during last season, if they suddenly get all 'I told you so' and gloss over there behaviour last season now, I'm going to stand up and say:

"you're being a hypocritical ****"

Lots of talk of 'snipes' on this thread. Just go back and see who had the first snipe, r.e Flint and his detractors and you'll see the hypocracy i'm talking about.

Yes the club went through a tough time and yes LJ could have been sacked, but it didn't justify some of the behaviour on here.

[Bob Binalong]

Just above the bottom right corner of Lee's picture, if you look closely, it is possible to see the box he is standing on. How else could they both be at the same head height 

[lenred]

13 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

Hang on there mate. I think you need to get your facts straight.

I haven't sniped at anyone about LJ. Happily apologise if you can quote me.

I remained positive last season during the rot, in the face of sometimes relentless abuse.

I was quietly optimistic pre season and have being enjoying almost every second of this season.

Not once have I said 'I told you so' to anyone.

So in defence of me and others (many of whom were probably scared off OTIB) when I see posters who relentlessly trolled anyone who had an opposite opinion to them, and there were plenty on here during last season, if they suddenly get all 'I told you so' and gloss over there behaviour last season now, I'm going to stand up and say:

"you're being a hypocritical ****"

Lots of talk of 'snipes' on this thread. Just go back and see who had the first snipe, r.e Flint and his detractors and you'll see the hypocracy in talking about.

Yes the club went through a tough time and yes LJ could have been sacked, but it didn't justify some of the behaviour on here.

Your post came across to me and it would seem to others as a dig at Bob. My apologies if I've read thst wrong but I don't think I have.  

Although he can of course stand up for himself, at no point did Bob (who Im presuming you are referring to on this thread as your post was directed at him)  'relentlessly troll' anyone as far as I recall. He was strong and vocal in his views that LJ should've been relinquished of his duties. As was I.  As we're countless countless others. However, the vast majority of his detractors last year can now see that he is doing a great job currently and have said so quite openly on here and long long long may it continue. But it seems some on here want to just revert back to what seems like petty point scoring about what was said last year.  And all I'm saying is let's just move on and enjoy what is currently a fantastic season. Long may it continue. 

[Alessandro]

26 minutes ago, lenred said:

Your post came across to me and it would seem to others as a dig at Bob. My apologies if I've read thst wrong but I don't think I have.  

Although he can of course stand up for himself, at no point did Bob (who Im presuming you are referring to on this thread as your post was directed at him)  'relentlessly troll' anyone as far as I recall. He was strong and vocal in his views that LJ should've been relinquished of his duties. As was I.  As we're countless countless others. However, the vast majority of his detractors last year can now see that he is doing a great job currently and have said so quite openly on here and long long long may it continue. But it seems some on here want to just revert back to what seems like petty point scoring about what was said last year.  And all I'm saying is let's just move on and enjoy what is currently a fantastic season. Long may it continue. 

My post was directed 100% at Bob, he trolled me (along with others, so you recall incorrectly on this occasion) and I think him starting this all off with the snipe of an 'I told you so' about Flint is completely hypocritical. And yes, I'm sure he can defend himself.

R.E LJ - you're preaching to the converted. I thought he should've been sacked in April and I've not said "I told you so once" about LJ to anyone. Nor have I once gone about petty point scoring to do with last year. If you read my posts I've been very much enjoying the season.

If you see someone doing that, direct your comments at them, not me please mate! Because I don't want to be dragged into any I told you so chat.

[kiwicolin]

Well deserved.  

[Ska Junkie]

39 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

My post was directed 100% at Bob, he trolled me (along with others, so you recall incorrectly on this occasion) and I think him starting this all off with the snipe of an 'I told you so' about Flint is completely hypocritical. And yes, I'm sure he can defend himself.

R.E LJ - you're preaching to the converted. I thought he should've been sacked in April and I've not said "I told you so once" about LJ to anyone. Nor have I once gone about petty point scoring to do with last year. If you read my posts I've been very much enjoying the season.

If you see someone doing that, direct your comments at them, not me please mate! Because I don't want to be dragged into any I told you so chat.

Excuse this old fart but what does 'trolled' mean? How does this manifest itself on a forum?

[Cunnyfunt]

Keep up the good work! Could have put a couple more million on the Flint price tag at least! 

[Alessandro]

12 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Excuse this old fart but what does 'trolled' mean? How does this manifest itself on a forum?

 

"Being a pr*** on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it's the internet and, hey, you can.

 

Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks or writing swear words."

[Ska Junkie]

6 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

 

"Being a pr*** on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it's the internet and, hey, you can.

 

Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks or writing swear words."

TY Alessandro. I wasn't having a pop by the way, I genuinely didn't know what it meant.

[lenred]

13 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Excuse this old fart but what does 'trolled' mean? How does this manifest itself on a forum?

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,^[1]extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response^[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,^[3] often for the troll's amusement.

I've always understood it to be the lower end of the debate line. There are certain posters that do it on here and do it quite successfully / bloody annoyingly depending on your point of view. But I've never seen Bob do this personally - depends on how you take things that are said though I guess.  But like I say he can fight his own battles I'm sure! 

[BobBobSuperBob]

1 hour ago, Alessandro said:

My post was directed 100% at Bob, he trolled me (along with others, so you recall incorrectly on this occasion) and I think him starting this all off with the snipe of an 'I told you so' about Flint is completely hypocritical. And yes, I'm sure he can defend himself.

R.E LJ - you're preaching to the converted. I thought he should've been sacked in April and I've not said "I told you so once" about LJ to anyone. Nor have I once gone about petty point scoring to do with last year. If you read my posts I've been very much enjoying the season.

If you see someone doing that, direct your comments at them, not me please mate! Because I don't want to be dragged into any I told you so chat.

Ewwwww the irony

Amazing how you never miss an opportunity to latch  into certain posts directed at me and throw your Tupperware hapenny in with your lil group 

Who was it you heavily criticised and laid into the other day for being over positive as a tactic to undermine the Head Coach

Paranoia to add up to your list

 

[Alessandro]

4 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Ewwwww the irony

Amazing how you never miss an opportunity to latch  into certain posts directed at me and throw your Tupperware hapenny in with your lil group 

Who was it you heavily criticised and laid into the other day for being over positive as a tactic to undermine the Head Coach

Paranoia to add up to your list

 

And I rest my case ladies and gentlemen.

[Ian M]

I personally think it's amazing that the same manager who presided over our club record losing run, now has responsibility for our longest unbeaten run at this level since we were promoted from this division in the 70's. 

That period last season goes down as one of the lower points in my time supporting the club whilst I don't think I've ever been excited about our prospects as I am now.

What is the solution for those who held the "LJ out" view last season? Would his supporters last season prefer it if we continued to be narrow minded and want him out or do you want us to stop supporting the club? At the moment all we can do is continue to admit we were wrong but I can tell you that in my case I never wanted him to fail, not that I ever want any of our managers to fail, but in particular as I liked him as a player and love how much he clearly cares about our club.

At some point we need to draw a line under previously held positions and stop apologising for previously held beliefs and enjoy what will hopefully go on to be the best period in the history of our club.

A fair proportion of Man Utd fans wanted Fergie out prior to the FA Cup win in 1990, could we be embarking on a journey of similar folklore status?

[BobBobSuperBob]

29 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

And I rest my case ladies and gentlemen.

Just worked out why you were so touchy about My Flint comments

You claimed to be 'in the know' 'heard things' and were quite clear on your views on  Flint 

Maybe you will reveal all you knew one day 

And if Flint goes in January I'd wish him the very best - good luck to him - Been exemplary and kept his mouth shut when things were said and inferred about him and has done his talking on the pitch as he's always done , never less than %100 and his best

My comment was regarding people labelling him a donkey and similar and those questioning his committment if needed / selected , (Let's see how many come out and review like I happily  have with LJ)

(Again as I've pointed out to you and your little group I doidnt see you jumping on posts calling Flint a donkey or abusive posts at other posters etc - you and you're group are noticeably very 'selective'  ) 

but it appears I've hit a nerve 

Maybe if you'd bothered to go to the q&a you would have heard how Flint has actually behaved - from LJ & MA

 

[Swede]

I am very pleased that LJ has got this award.

There is no doubt that he is an extremely good coach and shows what can be achieved if everyone pulls together.

In hindsight that was probably not the case last season [both on the pitch and off it]

 

I am so pleased for Flinty too; in my opinion he is the first name on the teamsheet. He has a great mentality and deserves all of the plaudits.

 

[redapple]

Well done Lee and Flinty. Exciting times being a City supporter. Than you. 

And to all those who doubted LJ don’t worry about it, we all have differing opinions on football and we all get found out sometimes. Just a lesson not to get to personal or to get in the same mind set of arrogant Arsenal fans . 

I never had any doubts about LJ, I was knew he was the man ;-)

[richwwtk]

Who were the people last season (and we all know that they were indeed out there, though I can't remember names) who talked about a boycott and not coming back until Lee Johnson was no longer manager of Bristol City?

Is there still anyone out there continuing with their boycott? Would be very interested to hear their view if they are.

[BobBobSuperBob]

3 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

 

Not you plonker

 

[Kodjias Wrist]

19 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

Who were the people last season (and we all know that they were indeed out there, though I can't remember names) who talked about a boycott and not coming back until Lee Johnson was no longer manager of Bristol City?

Is there still anyone out there continuing with their boycott? Would be very interested to hear their view if they are.

I was after the reading and cardiff matches. Normally however after a few hours after the match i calmed down. I would like to add that I wasn't in favour of the posters and personal abuse hurled at Lee.

What I would say though is that we were a laughing stock and people including me thought SL lost his mind. If it happened again this season I would have the same opinnion as i did last season.

[Mr Popodopolous]

Great to see- well deserved for LJ.

Flint...fantastic. After his uncertain summer, to come back like this and with some crucial goals to boot, shows what an excellent pro he is.

[Mr Popodopolous]

When it comes to trolling, this tbh is technically correct but the definition has sort of passed by the modern version of it.

If you look at USA...often what happens there comes here though unsure this one will. One such example? Look up "SWAT Trolling". It's horrendous, to call some spat on an internet forum, in in an increasing number of cases is short of the mark these days. Is true 5-10 years ago moreso tbh. They need to update the definitions and parameters I would suggest. 

[AppyDAZE]

In fairness with 11.6+  thousand likes to his name, BobBobSuperBob can't be doing too much wrong

Do a GIF Bob, g'waaan do one!

[Leveller]

14 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

In fairness with 11.6+  thousand likes to his name, BobBobSuperBob can't be doing too much wrong

Do a GIF Bob, g'waaan do one!

He's Jekyll & Hyde - loads of good posts but goes off on one if he get criticised.

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

4 hours ago, lenred said:

Why can't you and others just enjoy the upturn we are seeing instead of sniping? Just gets really boring people always looking for a dig at those who dared question LJs tenure last season. Most people have got over it and accept that wanting him gone at the worst point of last season was a valid option, even if they didn't agree. A massive well done to you and those of you who didn't think that getting rid was the right thing to do.  We get it. You were right. But a forum is about opinions. Constant digs at those who hold differing opinions to you is petty. Let's just crack on and enjoy what's happening now. 

Well- thanks for that Len. I really don't have a problem with differing views when they're put in a reasonable way- we all get it wrong sometimes.

Both you and @Bob Bob Super Bob seem to think it's all about me/others sniping. No it's about you glossing over some really vindictive statements you made like:

 

"Here comes the little ****. ' 

"too FLICKY (wtaf), wasn't a 5-0 game'. F OFF!!!!!Too flicky'. He actually f'ing said that. Too flicky. Just F off."

"Nothing he ever does will win me back. He's proven that he's a back stabbing, gutless charlatan who deems it ok to blame everyone - players, fans, recognised and experienced assistant coaches - bar himself. His ego is beyond compare - that he makes his assistants, one of whom was a fellow teammate, call him 'GAFFER' makes me be a bit sick in my mouth. Especially as he claims to be a 'new breed of coach' whatever the hell that... "

And then today you post :        "Congratulations to both. Very well deserved"  ...................See what I'm saying??

 

 

And @Bob Bob Super Bob whilst congratulating Lee on winning MOTM award whilst suggesting Flint critics should "reflect" on their criticisms..... sit back and reflect on your own criticisms of which the following are a very small selection:

On Mr Lansdown:

"If you didn't know he was a successful businessman /billionaire - you'd think GT was ramndomly interviewing some bloke walking through Cabot Circus and asked him to pretend to impersonate a Football Club Owner Sounded a bumbling fumbling complete fool Frightening"

 "I'm having a lovely BBQ whilst you claim you're fat armpits sweat under the glaze of the dictator who thinks you a pleb, whilst you line his pockets Ha ha brilliant Baaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa "

 

On supporters making a case to keep LJ:

"Excellent work Making excuses for him 24 hrs before the game :the ultimate apologist"

"...Yep And the apologists / apathetic / Superfans are part of the reason"

"Thanks for your input Some of the blind faith drivel,posted is pathetic"

 

On Lee Johnson:

"The bloke is a complete and utter CLOWN"

"A complete embarrassment - pathetic"

"want us to win , and survive whatever I think of the clueless one and his sugar daddy"

"Ha ha What did the incompetent clown say about Forums ?"

"But do you not see that he's not going to help solve any problems in any way as he is the root cause IMHO He's a massive Negative Whilst he hangs around like a bad smell"

"You do what you want - the players have had chance after chance - With the odd starring exception (The main one being a 19 yr old who isn't even ours) I couldn't give a shit what the players think Their performances and particularly the second half last night demonstrated what they think of you , me and every other City supporter who pay their ridiculous wages Time to drive Johnson out of our club"

 

 

So there you have it- a small selection from the Bob & Len show and there's an awful lot more.

@Bob Bob Super Bob talks of sniping and hypocrisy  and yes many of us could be guilty of it but I can only suggest that before I take the plank of wood out of my eye that Bob takes Leigh Woods out of his.

[Major Isewater]

1 hour ago, Ian M said:

I personally think it's amazing that the same manager who presided over our club record losing run, now has responsibility for our longest unbeaten run at this level since we were promoted from this division in the 70's. 

That period last season goes down as one of the lower points in my time supporting the club whilst I don't think I've ever been excited about our prospects as I am now.

What is the solution for those who held the "LJ out" view last season? Would his supporters last season prefer it if we continued to be narrow minded and want him out or do you want us to stop supporting the club? At the moment all we can do is continue to admit we were wrong but I can tell you that in my case I never wanted him to fail, not that I ever want any of our managers to fail, but in particular as I liked him as a player and love how much he clearly cares about our club.

At some point we need to draw a line under previously held positions and stop apologising for previously held beliefs and enjoy what will hopefully go on to be the best period in the history of our club.

A fair proportion of Man Utd fans wanted Fergie out prior to the FA Cup win in 1990, could we be embarking on a journey of similar folklore status?

No , I don't think he'd ever get taken on as manager of Man Utd . 

 

[Ska Junkie]

6 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Well- thanks for that Len. I really don't have a problem with differing views when they're put in a reasonable way- we all get it wrong sometimes.

Both you and @Bob Bob Super Bob seem to think it's all about me/others sniping. No it's about you glossing over some really vindictive statements you made like:

 

"Here comes the little ****. ' 

"too FLICKY (wtaf), wasn't a 5-0 game'. F OFF!!!!!Too flicky'. He actually f'ing said that. Too flicky. Just F off."

"Nothing he ever does will win me back. He's proven that he's a back stabbing, gutless charlatan who deems it ok to blame everyone - players, fans, recognised and experienced assistant coaches - bar himself. His ego is beyond compare - that he makes his assistants, one of whom was a fellow teammate, call him 'GAFFER' makes me be a bit sick in my mouth. Especially as he claims to be a 'new breed of coach' whatever the hell that... "

And then today you post :        "Congratulations to both. Very well deserved"  ...................See what I'm saying??

 

 

And @Bob Bob Super Bob whilst congratulating Lee on winning MOTM award whilst suggesting Flint critics should "reflect" on their criticisms..... sit back and reflect on your own criticisms of which the following are a very small selection:

On Mr Lansdown:

"If you didn't know he was a successful businessman /billionaire - you'd think GT was ramndomly interviewing some bloke walking through Cabot Circus and asked him to pretend to impersonate a Football Club Owner Sounded a bumbling fumbling complete fool Frightening"

 "I'm having a lovely BBQ whilst you claim you're fat armpits sweat under the glaze of the dictator who thinks you a pleb, whilst you line his pockets Ha ha brilliant Baaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa "

 

On supporters making a case to keep LJ:

"Excellent work Making excuses for him 24 hrs before the game :the ultimate apologist"

"...Yep And the apologists / apathetic / Superfans are part of the reason"

"Thanks for your input Some of the blind faith drivel,posted is pathetic"

 

On Lee Johnson:

"The bloke is a complete and utter CLOWN"

"A complete embarrassment - pathetic"

"want us to win , and survive whatever I think of the clueless one and his sugar daddy"

"Ha ha What did the incompetent clown say about Forums ?"

"But do you not see that he's not going to help solve any problems in any way as he is the root cause IMHO He's a massive Negative Whilst he hangs around like a bad smell"

"You do what you want - the players have had chance after chance - With the odd starring exception (The main one being a 19 yr old who isn't even ours) I couldn't give a shit what the players think Their performances and particularly the second half last night demonstrated what they think of you , me and every other City supporter who pay their ridiculous wages Time to drive Johnson out of our club"

 

 

So there you have it- a small selection from the Bob & Len show and there's an awful lot more.

@Bob Bob Super Bob talks of sniping and hypocrisy  and yes many of us could be guilty of it but I can only suggest that before I take the plank of wood out of my eye that Bob takes Leigh Woods out of his.

I'm sorry MMR but I really don't see the point of your crusade. It comes across as sanctimonious crap WTGR.

Why not just enjoy our current great form and leave this alone as it does you no favours whatsoever.