ChippenhamRed Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 I back LJ to remain in charge based on the principle of season-on-season incremental progress - but equally I understand and share the concern, even alarm, caused by our post-Christmas decline. Since it now appears to be back in vogue to call for the manager’s head - who is the answer? Who is a realistic candidate who we can we be genuinely confident would do a better job than LJ next season? Genuine question. Answers on a postcard please, and please give your reasons. In anticipation - “anyone but LJ” is not an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Paul Cook or Dean Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiree said: Talking to lifelong Man City fans they say Pep is a bottler, spends crazy stupid money on poor keepers, overpriced fullbacks that have their skill removed and is detached from the fan base. Blue it at Anfield and bottled it again today. Our fans are not the only ones to call for the trendy nonsense of replacing managers like fodder when they disappoint in the short term. It's rigidly engrained in the psyche of most football fans that want a change of manager when results are not going for them. What they don't consider is the massive upheaval that sacking a manager causes within the club becauses it's not just the manager that goes but the majority of his backroom staff as well and that has an unsettling effect throughout the club. The new bloke will want his own people with him,. New ideas with staff.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted April 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Red_Wizard said: Paul Cook or Dean Smith Why? Make a case for them @Red_Wizard, I’m genuinely interested to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Just now, ChippenhamRed said: Why? Make a case for them @Red_Wizard, I’m genuinely interested to hear. Paul Cook has shown at each club he’s managed he can assemble a squad to fight for promotion, including promotion with Portsmouth and looks like Wigan will also be promoted. I love Dean Smiths style of football. However, he’s yet to achieve anything in football. But I still believe both are better than Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted April 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Red_Wizard said: Paul Cook has shown at each club he’s managed he can assemble a squad to fight for promotion, including promotion with Portsmouth and looks like Wigan will also be promoted. I love Dean Smiths style of football. However, he’s yet to achieve anything in football. But I still believe both are better than Johnson Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Can we have the chap who people think could be brought in to help Lee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Can we have the chap who people think could be brought in to help Lee? The return of Mr Lennartsson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Just now, Loco Rojo said: The return of Mr Lennartsson? He was nearly as nice as Wael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 18 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Can we have the chap who people think could be brought in to help Lee? Warnock (hiding behind the sofa) not a clue who would be the best shout,no I don’t want the idiot over the bridge! we need something to happen now, if the miracle don’t happen we need to start next season running and it has to be with marathon stamina and a real leader, which LJ clearly is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 I'd have Dean Smith in a heart beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Mick McCarthy Steve McClaren Alan Pardew Nigel Pearson Slaven Bilic Roberto di Matteo Jaap Stam Ryan Nelsen All hungry and with a point to prove one way or another. All more experienced and successful than Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Mick McCarthy Steve McClaren Alan Pardew Nigel Pearson Slaven Bilic Roberto di Matteo Jaap Stam Ryan Nelsen All hungry and with a point to prove one way or another. Your boys took a hell of a beating....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Mick McCarthy with resources honestly isn’t a bad shout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 minute ago, KeepUpLino said: Mick McCarthy with resources honestly isn’t a bad shout... He could get Roy Keane in as his number two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Mick McCarthy Steve McClaren Alan Pardew Nigel Pearson Slaven Bilic Roberto di Matteo Jaap Stam Ryan Nelsen All hungry and with a point to prove one way or another. Oh FFS Pardiola - won one game in charge of WBA with, at base ability level, a squad that was not as bad as they’ve shown in the prem Stam - gone on as bad a run post last years playoffs as we are currently Di Matteo - had the hugely resourced Villa at this level and couldn’t succeed McClaren - oversaw a Derby slump at least as bad as our current one is, with more cash. Ignoring whether it’s right or wrong to can LJ, how are the above better candidates??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 57 minutes ago, Tiree said: Talking to lifelong Man City fans they say Pep is a bottler, spends crazy stupid money on poor keepers, overpriced fullbacks that have their skill removed and is detached from the fan base. Blue it at Anfield and bottled it again today. Our fans are not the only ones to call for the trendy nonsense of replacing managers like fodder when they disappoint in the short term. Sure they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandwhitescarf Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Mick McCarthy Steve McClaren Alan Pardew Nigel Pearson Slaven Bilic Roberto di Matteo Jaap Stam Ryan Nelsen All hungry and with a point to prove one way or another. All more experienced and successful than Lee. Marco Silva? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 So having a manager who done ok and only that at Oldham , nearly took Barnsley down with one of his famous winless streaks , comes here and the winless streaks follows him , that’s not unlucky , that’s a pattern he can’t shake off , it’s up to city to do due diligence and find a boss who has experience at this level , and also players also buying players for the future is admirable , however makes us a selling club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Mick McCarthy Steve McClaren Alan Pardew Nigel Pearson Slaven Bilic Roberto di Matteo Jaap Stam Ryan Nelsen All hungry and with a point to prove one way or another. All more experienced and successful than Lee. Apart from RDM what have the others done to make you want them to manage us? Reason they all have a point to prove is because they have all failed in other jobs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 One manager i dont want is PEP SHOCKING manager 2 up at home against a team who cant beat Us and lose!!! No idea of game management God posters on here could do better!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Dean Smith. Did well at Walsall with no money whatsoever Doing well at Brentford. Play nice football and would be more successful if people didnt keep pinching their forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 One problem I think with Dean Smith is we'd seemingly be a sideways move, similar league position and their transfer system is excellent so still gets the players without big money. Why should he risk a good thing he's got going at Brentford and risk having to start somewhere new would be the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said: I back LJ to remain in charge based on the principle of season-on-season incremental progress - but equally I understand and share the concern, even alarm, caused by our post-Christmas decline. Since it now appears to be back in vogue to call for the manager’s head - who is the answer? Who is a realistic candidate who we can we be genuinely confident would do a better job than LJ next season? Genuine question. Answers on a postcard please, and please give your reasons. In anticipation - “anyone but LJ” is not an answer. It’s a tricky one for sure..... and I’m not saying I want LJ out as it stands but if we were looking: Graham Potter at Östersunds - proven that he can take a team through the ranks and his team looked very good in their European run with some decent scalps. McCarthy would do well I think but you have to question if he’s still looking to stay in the game. Would need to be sounded out regards his ambition moving forwards. Marco Silva would need serious cash but would show massive ambition. Not sure he’d come here anyway - depends on his other offers but probably a bit above our current means Craig Shakespeare - see Silva - not sure he’d come down to here but would be worth a shot. Thought he did pretty well at Leicester goven the circumstances Alex Neil - if we could tempt him away from Preston. He’s done well with what he’s got there imho. Would definitely be a tricky one to call whatever but it’s very much hypothetical - LJ will be here for a long time to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 That bloke that managed Hull earlier in the season. Christ he was funny. If were gonna be shit , lets have someone who admits he doesn't know what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 33 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Mick McCarthy Steve McClaren Alan Pardew Nigel Pearson Slaven Bilic Roberto di Matteo Jaap Stam Ryan Nelsen All hungry and with a point to prove one way or another. All more experienced and successful than Lee. And Nigel Adkins has got a team promoted from the championship into the premier league....quick point though...Ryan Nelsen...he’s only managed Toronto FC for a couple of seasons hasn’t he?! So not sure how he has a point to prove or how he is more experienced or successful than Lee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 maybe we need to look abroad perhaps the Bundesliga or one of the Italian leagues? Does Eros have any contacts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: One manager i dont want is PEP SHOCKING manager 2 up at home against a team who cant beat Us and lose!!! No idea of game management God posters on here could do better!!!! Serious Question As one of those relentlessly critical of , and sarcastic to numerous other posters Do you ever have views on how things could be changed for the better ? Players, tactical approach , anything else ........... As all you ever do is snipe at others posts and make stupid sarcastic comments Can you point me in the direction of the last post you wrote with anything constructive or any ideas of your own ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Some people will say this whole thread is shocking, I will stick my head above the parapet and apologise for it, but say honestly I would have Marco Silva in a flash. I am biased because he started at a small team I grew up near to, but he has got some previous for winning football games, and our recent form is beyond horrific. I was all aboard the Lee Johnson tactical genius bus this season but then sadly he's shown in the past month he doesn't know how to turn up or let alone compete. I'm quite happy to support a young manager who is learning, but current evidence is that this club has not only made zero progress this season, it is still in a mess. Can we stop indulging people who think just because we beat Man U we must be the resident world beaters in South East London, not simply a very average team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Olé said: Some people will say this whole thread is shocking, I will stick my head above the parapet and apologise for it, but say honestly I would have Marco Silva in a flash. I am biased because he started at a small team I grew up near to, but he has got some previous for winning football games, and our recent form is beyond horrific. I was all aboard the Lee Johnson tactical genius bus this season but then sadly he's shown in the past month he doesn't know how to turn up or let alone compete. I'm quite happy to support a young manager who is learning, but current evidence is that this club has not only made zero progress this season, it is still in a mess. Any chance we could stop indulging people who think just because we beat Man that we are world beaters, and who could instead see this is a very average team. Of all the names, Silva is undoubtedly the one I’d want. He gets teams playing and does it in the right way. The concern I have is, even in the unlikely event that he’d come here, is that if he does do well, as the Everton situation showed this year, he would be after the next thing immediately. In a bizarre way, he’s as much a manager for the short term as Warnock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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