Taz Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Pretty sure it was revealed before the new injection of cash that Villa had already borrowed against all future parachute payments, so they won't make any difference now. I've heard that from somewhere as well, whether it's true or not I have no idea, but that's now the 2nd or 3rd time I've heard the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Taz said: I've heard that from somewhere as well, whether it's true or not I have no idea, but that's now the 2nd or 3rd time I've heard the same thing. We'll hear something similar again next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Sturny said: We'll hear something similar again next year Unlikely as this is their last year of parachute payments is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Sturny said: People say that every season since they've been down here FFP is over a 3 year period. The risk before the new investment was insolvency. The risk now is FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, chinapig said: Unlikely as this is their last year of parachute payments is it not? In terms of a reason why they're gonna be screwed or worse off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, Sturny said: In terms of a reason why they're gonna be screwed or worse off. I see, understood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, Sturny said: In terms of a reason why they're gonna be screwed or worse off. It’s almost as if you want to believe Villa will face no repercussions so that FFP stops being a legitimate reason why City can’t push the boat out to compete with clubs of that ilk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: If TA is training with the first team he will get more from that than another season in the champ imo. Not for me. Nothing is better than playing games. Training with the first team at Chelsea will not give him real game experience. Much better to go out and start matches regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, Sturny said: A lot of speculation going on with what will happen to them, I'll it believe when it see it. Whether they go up or stay put I think they'll be fine. Think some people are rather wishful than realistic over Villa. Speculation up to a point but based on what is in the public domain. Entirely realistic based on the evidence available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, chinapig said: Speculation up to a point but based on what is in the public domain. Entirely realistic based on the evidence available. I meant that in terms of the punishment of what'll happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, Taz said: I've heard that from somewhere as well, whether it's true or not I have no idea, but that's now the 2nd or 3rd time I've heard the same thing. I recall seeing a document re the Jordan Amavi signing saying the funds borrowed (€7-8m) were secured against future year’s Parachute payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: It’s almost as if you want to believe Villa will face no repercussions so that FFP stops being a legitimate reason why City can’t push the boat out to compete with clubs of that ilk Haha what. Every year I've heard why Villa will gets points deducted or a transfer ban etc. People can speculate as much as they'd like about what'll happen to them but I'll believe it when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Sturny said: Haha what. Every year I've heard why Villa will gets points deducted or a transfer ban etc. People can speculate as much as they'd like about what'll happen to them but I'll believe it when I see it. birmingham, Sheffield wednesday, forest, all had transfer bans recently, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, Sturny said: I meant that in terms of the punishment of what'll happen Agreed on that. We know what the potential punishments are but whether they would be applied to the maximum against a big club is pure (cynical) speculation on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Monkeh said: birmingham, Sheffield wednesday, forest, all had transfer bans recently, And they'd be fine imo. They could get a transfer ban and be okay for the next season. Squad depth is nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 @Mr Popodopolous that picture from the Swiss Ramble is good for understanding why Norwich started selling last season, because they only had 2 seasons of Parachutes. Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sturny said: And they'd be fine imo. They could get a transfer ban and be okay for the next season. Squad depth is nuts I'm not sure that transfer bans necessarily have a big impact either. It depends on the state of the squad of course but can be largely symbolic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: @Mr Popodopolous that picture from the Swiss Ramble is good for understanding why Norwich started selling last season, because they only had 2 seasons of Parachutes. Ta. Yes, Swiss Ramble is an excellent site for information on the financial side of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, chinapig said: I'm not sure that transfer bans necessarily have a big impact either. It depends on the state of the squad of course but can be largely symbolic. Yeah reckon they'd just be sneaky and use the "loan to buy" system that's being used frequently these days @Phileas Fogg I used my last forum emoji of today on that "Hmm" I hope you know i meant every part of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 44 minutes ago, Harry said: Not for me. Nothing is better than playing games. Training with the first team at Chelsea will not give him real game experience. Much better to go out and start matches regularly. I agree playing is a good way but he has never trained with players of that calibre for long. Being around them and seeing how they prepare and train can be a big thing for a young player. I would not suggest it for the season but give him that feel for what it takes until January and see how he progresses in a 6 month loan spell in Europe(where I would send him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 16 hours ago, E.G.Red said: So what's with Tomas Kallas then? Can't see him coming to a club with NO AMBITION. At 25 he would want to get himself noticed. Maybe so, but I bet he's not getting more than k15, pw, playing at city, cause Landsdown won't pay it, wage cap again, we ain't going nowhere, no top wages no top players, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpitman Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 19 hours ago, Redmycolour said: Johnson admits, Tammy won't be coming here, big wages, city won't pay it, NO AMBITION, ...and by paying the wages, he risks alienating the rest of the squad who are on lower wages you numpty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, Redmycolour said: Maybe so, but I bet he's not getting more than k15, pw, playing at city, cause Landsdown won't pay it, wage cap again, we ain't going nowhere, no top wages no top players, Have you heard of financial fair play and do you know what it means? Put simply, 20k fans a week isn’t going to pay for players on £50k/w. And we don’t have anywhere near the financial clout of recently relegated premier league sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenaldo Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 Would rather we keep going the way we are than end up in debt, fines and eventually relegated like some clubs have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 BBC West Midlands twitter saying that Tammy rumours are untrue for Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Have you heard of financial fair play and do you know what it means? Put simply, 20k fans a week isn’t going to pay for players on £50k/w. And we don’t have anywhere near the financial clout of recently relegated premier league sides. LJ on loanee " city have been able to compete with big boys at big table" but just for defenders then not Tammy? and from the same club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 24 minutes ago, Bri Stool City said: LJ on loanee " city have been able to compete with big boys at big table" but just for defenders then not Tammy? and from the same club You know Kalas isn’t on 50k a week right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardy Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 So is Tammy on his way back then?? Stranger things have happened.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cardy said: So is Tammy on his way back then?? Stranger things have happened.... More chance of him playing against us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 24, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, tpitman said: ...and by paying the wages, he risks alienating the rest of the squad who are on lower wages you numpty! It's all a little too late for that - this has been a problem for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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