Derby County

[Marvin]

I've been catching up on the Forest thread which provides good reading. OTIB is on the updated HMRCWRDCFC Blame List.

https://www.forestforum.co.uk/threads/44511-The-demise-of-Wayne-Rooney-s-D***y-County-(in-Administration)-(and-denial)/page983

 

The new and improved official Derby County blame list:
1. The EFL
2. Steve Gibson
3. Neil Bausor
4. Middlesbrough
5. Rob Couhig
6. Wycombe
7. Covid
8. The ticket office
9. The HMRC
10. Nicholas Randall
11. Trevor Birch
12. Darren Bent
13. Steve McClaren
14. Danny Higginbotham
15. Richard Keogh
16. The European Super League
17. Sky Sports
18. The Football League paper
19. Burton Albion
20. Derby City Council
21. Mind (the mental health charity)
22. Opposition fans
23. The taxpayer
24. Derby's creditors
25. Forest fans that sit in the Upper Bridgford
26. Rick Parry
27. Brice Samba
28. Jack Colback
29. Simon Jordan
30. ITV Digital
31. Setanta
32. Brian Clough
33. Juventus
34. Tim Robinson
35. Lewis Grabban
36. Brennan Johnson
37. Kenny Burns
38. Nigel Clough
39. Billy Davies
40. LTLF
41. Rockabilly and his curse
42. Derby fans (whilst also being blameless at the same time)
43. Stan Collymore
44. Leeds United
45. Ed Dawes
46. Ugg (the caveman that created football, leading to the creation of the EFL)
47. Scott McKenna (for heading aeroplanes away that may contain investors, thus preventing Derby's takeover)
48. OK SpidermAndy! (for upsetting Derby fans by querying how long it will be before Derby fans nick Liverpool's "You'll Never Walk Alone" chant)
49. John Percy
50. Rob Dorsett
51. FFSForest (a Twitter user who pointed out how the absence of Derby's "unreal" supporters this season has cost them around £5m, which would help them complete the season. Clearly an EFL stooge!)
52. 166,000 empty seats (probably the fault of the seat manufacturer, rather than their "unreal" fans though)
53. Forest selling players to Olympiacos
54. Liverpool fans, Sheffield police and the Hillsboro/Govt report (making stadiums all seater prevented them from selling 60k every game)
55. Lyle Taylor
56. Adrian Durham
57. Luke Plange and Crystal Palace
58. Matt Donohue
59. Duane Holmes
60. Beardo7 and his £10 bet
61. Holland & Barrett
62. Bobby Zamora
63. Goalposts
64. Kim Leck
65. Aston Villa
66. Myself
67. The Mysterons
68. Captain Black
69. Shaggy
70. The Queen
71. RealRed85
72. Billingham Synthonia FC
73. Text messages
74. Congo_red (for daring to use facts)
75. Chevin Homes (the "preferred" partner in property)
76. Gianluca Di Marzio
77. Pozzo family (Udinese/Watford)
78. Brexit
79. Derby's Category 1 academy
80. Adam Hart-Davis
81. Birmingham City fans
82. Derby forum users Gritstone Tup and Mucker1884 (for breaking away from the hive mind and going against the narrative)
83. Chris Kirchner
84. Chris Doidge (blasphemous BBC Radio Derby presenter)
85. Daniel Taylor
86. Hasbro
87. From Software
88. Atari
89. 32 Red
90. Sheffield Wednesday fans
91. Bouncer the dog
92. Sam Longson
93. Alcohol
94. Leicester City
95. MaxiRobriguez
96. The MLS
97. The Joiners Arms in Quarndon
98. Highways England
99. Middlesbrough fans bringing facts onto Derby's forum
100. Ze list
101. Darren Huckerby
102. Del Boy and Rodney
103. Harry Enfield
104. Jeremy Simpson
105. Mason Bennett
106. Tom Lawrence
107. Ball boys
108. Scott Malone
109. Tubby pitch invaders
110. Kenny Loggins
111. Nathan Thompson
112. Vladimir Putin
113. MPs
114. "Fake" deadlines
115. The Derby Telegraph
116. The Twitter user @derbyram76 (aka Leitrim Ram) (for creating his own version of ze list)
117. Boris Johnson
118. Daleks
119. Derbyshire Mortgage Services (blasphemous mortgage firm)
120. Pancake day
121. Doctor Who and their companions
122. I'm Red Till Dead
123. BBC Radio Derby
124. Colin Fray
125. Uche Ikpeazu
126. Sky Bet
127. Mitchell and Webb
128. Cardiff City fans
129. Bungle from Rainbow (his coke addiction is causing confusion in the Quantuma offices, thus preventing Derby's takeover)
130. Notcher
131. Whoever at Nottingham Forest is asking the EFL to lobby FIFA to let players at Russian clubs walk away from their contracts
132. Chelsea
133. DC Comics
134. Preston North End
135. Billy Joel
136. Igor Novikov
137. Ben Smyth (treacherous "Derby fan" on Twitter slandering Derby's "amazing" supporters)
138. Joel Moore (another Derby traitor on Twitter who is going against the "Fight 'till the end" narrative)
139. Lech Poznan (for having the audacity to ask for money owed to them)
140. Kieran Maguire
141. Truth
142. HBB
143. Evangelos Marinakis
144. David (moderator on the DCFC Fans forum)
145. "Interested parties"
146. Club 84 (a Twitter user who posted a blasphemous image)
147. Alan Nixon
148. Matt Slater
149. Coventry City
150. The sun
151. Jack Marriott
152. The Sex Pistols
153. QPR
154. The Bristol City Forum OTIB
155. Secret squirrels
156. FiveThirtyEight's Super Computer
157. Mr Magoo
158. Douglas Adams
159. Philip Madoc
160. Will Smith and Chris Rock

[Davefevs]

No 158, should’ve got a 42 point deduction.

[semblar]

5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

No 158, should’ve got a 42 point deduction.

Perhaps they should add Bon Jovi to the list then, as they are halfway there (with 21 points lost) and living on a prayer...

[Midred]

12 minutes ago, Marvin said:

I've been catching up on the Forest thread which provides good reading. OTIB is on the updated HMRCWRDCFC Blame List.

https://www.forestforum.co.uk/threads/44511-The-demise-of-Wayne-Rooney-s-D***y-County-(in-Administration)-(and-denial)/page983

 

 

The new and improved official Derby County blame list:
1. The EFL
2. Steve Gibson
3. Neil Bausor
4. Middlesbrough
5. Rob Couhig
6. Wycombe
7. Covid
8. The ticket office
9. The HMRC
10. Nicholas Randall
11. Trevor Birch
12. Darren Bent
13. Steve McClaren
14. Danny Higginbotham
15. Richard Keogh
16. The European Super League
17. Sky Sports
18. The Football League paper
19. Burton Albion
20. Derby City Council
21. Mind (the mental health charity)
22. Opposition fans
23. The taxpayer
24. Derby's creditors
25. Forest fans that sit in the Upper Bridgford
26. Rick Parry
27. Brice Samba
28. Jack Colback
29. Simon Jordan
30. ITV Digital
31. Setanta
32. Brian Clough
33. Juventus
34. Tim Robinson
35. Lewis Grabban
36. Brennan Johnson
37. Kenny Burns
38. Nigel Clough
39. Billy Davies
40. LTLF
41. Rockabilly and his curse
42. Derby fans (whilst also being blameless at the same time)
43. Stan Collymore
44. Leeds United
45. Ed Dawes
46. Ugg (the caveman that created football, leading to the creation of the EFL)
47. Scott McKenna (for heading aeroplanes away that may contain investors, thus preventing Derby's takeover)
48. OK SpidermAndy! (for upsetting Derby fans by querying how long it will be before Derby fans nick Liverpool's "You'll Never Walk Alone" chant)
49. John Percy
50. Rob Dorsett
51. FFSForest (a Twitter user who pointed out how the absence of Derby's "unreal" supporters this season has cost them around £5m, which would help them complete the season. Clearly an EFL stooge!)
52. 166,000 empty seats (probably the fault of the seat manufacturer, rather than their "unreal" fans though)
53. Forest selling players to Olympiacos
54. Liverpool fans, Sheffield police and the Hillsboro/Govt report (making stadiums all seater prevented them from selling 60k every game)
55. Lyle Taylor
56. Adrian Durham
57. Luke Plange and Crystal Palace
58. Matt Donohue
59. Duane Holmes
60. Beardo7 and his £10 bet
61. Holland & Barrett
62. Bobby Zamora
63. Goalposts
64. Kim Leck
65. Aston Villa
66. Myself
67. The Mysterons
68. Captain Black
69. Shaggy
70. The Queen
71. RealRed85
72. Billingham Synthonia FC
73. Text messages
74. Congo_red (for daring to use facts)
75. Chevin Homes (the "preferred" partner in property)
76. Gianluca Di Marzio
77. Pozzo family (Udinese/Watford)
78. Brexit
79. Derby's Category 1 academy
80. Adam Hart-Davis
81. Birmingham City fans
82. Derby forum users Gritstone Tup and Mucker1884 (for breaking away from the hive mind and going against the narrative)
83. Chris Kirchner
84. Chris Doidge (blasphemous BBC Radio Derby presenter)
85. Daniel Taylor
86. Hasbro
87. From Software
88. Atari
89. 32 Red
90. Sheffield Wednesday fans
91. Bouncer the dog
92. Sam Longson
93. Alcohol
94. Leicester City
95. MaxiRobriguez
96. The MLS
97. The Joiners Arms in Quarndon
98. Highways England
99. Middlesbrough fans bringing facts onto Derby's forum
100. Ze list
101. Darren Huckerby
102. Del Boy and Rodney
103. Harry Enfield
104. Jeremy Simpson
105. Mason Bennett
106. Tom Lawrence
107. Ball boys
108. Scott Malone
109. Tubby pitch invaders
110. Kenny Loggins
111. Nathan Thompson
112. Vladimir Putin
113. MPs
114. "Fake" deadlines
115. The Derby Telegraph
116. The Twitter user @derbyram76 (aka Leitrim Ram) (for creating his own version of ze list)
117. Boris Johnson
118. Daleks
119. Derbyshire Mortgage Services (blasphemous mortgage firm)
120. Pancake day
121. Doctor Who and their companions
122. I'm Red Till Dead
123. BBC Radio Derby
124. Colin Fray
125. Uche Ikpeazu
126. Sky Bet
127. Mitchell and Webb
128. Cardiff City fans
129. Bungle from Rainbow (his coke addiction is causing confusion in the Quantuma offices, thus preventing Derby's takeover)
130. Notcher
131. Whoever at Nottingham Forest is asking the EFL to lobby FIFA to let players at Russian clubs walk away from their contracts
132. Chelsea
133. DC Comics
134. Preston North End
135. Billy Joel
136. Igor Novikov
137. Ben Smyth (treacherous "Derby fan" on Twitter slandering Derby's "amazing" supporters)
138. Joel Moore (another Derby traitor on Twitter who is going against the "Fight 'till the end" narrative)
139. Lech Poznan (for having the audacity to ask for money owed to them)
140. Kieran Maguire
141. Truth
142. HBB
143. Evangelos Marinakis
144. David (moderator on the DCFC Fans forum)
145. "Interested parties"
146. Club 84 (a Twitter user who posted a blasphemous image)
147. Alan Nixon
148. Matt Slater
149. Coventry City
150. The sun
151. Jack Marriott
152. The Sex Pistols
153. QPR
154. The Bristol City Forum OTIB
155. Secret squirrels
156. FiveThirtyEight's Super Computer
157. Mr Magoo
158. Douglas Adams
159. Philip Madoc
160. Will Smith and Chris Rock

Can't see the X Files, GCHQ, MI5 or MI6 up there? 

[downendcity]

15 minutes ago, Marvin said:

I've been catching up on the Forest thread which provides good reading. OTIB is on the updated HMRCWRDCFC Blame List.

https://www.forestforum.co.uk/threads/44511-The-demise-of-Wayne-Rooney-s-D***y-County-(in-Administration)-(and-denial)/page983

 

 

The new and improved official Derby County blame list:
1. The EFL
2. Steve Gibson
3. Neil Bausor
4. Middlesbrough
5. Rob Couhig
6. Wycombe
7. Covid
8. The ticket office
9. The HMRC
10. Nicholas Randall
11. Trevor Birch
12. Darren Bent
13. Steve McClaren
14. Danny Higginbotham
15. Richard Keogh
16. The European Super League
17. Sky Sports
18. The Football League paper
19. Burton Albion
20. Derby City Council
21. Mind (the mental health charity)
22. Opposition fans
23. The taxpayer
24. Derby's creditors
25. Forest fans that sit in the Upper Bridgford
26. Rick Parry
27. Brice Samba
28. Jack Colback
29. Simon Jordan
30. ITV Digital
31. Setanta
32. Brian Clough
33. Juventus
34. Tim Robinson
35. Lewis Grabban
36. Brennan Johnson
37. Kenny Burns
38. Nigel Clough
39. Billy Davies
40. LTLF
41. Rockabilly and his curse
42. Derby fans (whilst also being blameless at the same time)
43. Stan Collymore
44. Leeds United
45. Ed Dawes
46. Ugg (the caveman that created football, leading to the creation of the EFL)
47. Scott McKenna (for heading aeroplanes away that may contain investors, thus preventing Derby's takeover)
48. OK SpidermAndy! (for upsetting Derby fans by querying how long it will be before Derby fans nick Liverpool's "You'll Never Walk Alone" chant)
49. John Percy
50. Rob Dorsett
51. FFSForest (a Twitter user who pointed out how the absence of Derby's "unreal" supporters this season has cost them around £5m, which would help them complete the season. Clearly an EFL stooge!)
52. 166,000 empty seats (probably the fault of the seat manufacturer, rather than their "unreal" fans though)
53. Forest selling players to Olympiacos
54. Liverpool fans, Sheffield police and the Hillsboro/Govt report (making stadiums all seater prevented them from selling 60k every game)
55. Lyle Taylor
56. Adrian Durham
57. Luke Plange and Crystal Palace
58. Matt Donohue
59. Duane Holmes
60. Beardo7 and his £10 bet
61. Holland & Barrett
62. Bobby Zamora
63. Goalposts
64. Kim Leck
65. Aston Villa
66. Myself
67. The Mysterons
68. Captain Black
69. Shaggy
70. The Queen
71. RealRed85
72. Billingham Synthonia FC
73. Text messages
74. Congo_red (for daring to use facts)
75. Chevin Homes (the "preferred" partner in property)
76. Gianluca Di Marzio
77. Pozzo family (Udinese/Watford)
78. Brexit
79. Derby's Category 1 academy
80. Adam Hart-Davis
81. Birmingham City fans
82. Derby forum users Gritstone Tup and Mucker1884 (for breaking away from the hive mind and going against the narrative)
83. Chris Kirchner
84. Chris Doidge (blasphemous BBC Radio Derby presenter)
85. Daniel Taylor
86. Hasbro
87. From Software
88. Atari
89. 32 Red
90. Sheffield Wednesday fans
91. Bouncer the dog
92. Sam Longson
93. Alcohol
94. Leicester City
95. MaxiRobriguez
96. The MLS
97. The Joiners Arms in Quarndon
98. Highways England
99. Middlesbrough fans bringing facts onto Derby's forum
100. Ze list
101. Darren Huckerby
102. Del Boy and Rodney
103. Harry Enfield
104. Jeremy Simpson
105. Mason Bennett
106. Tom Lawrence
107. Ball boys
108. Scott Malone
109. Tubby pitch invaders
110. Kenny Loggins
111. Nathan Thompson
112. Vladimir Putin
113. MPs
114. "Fake" deadlines
115. The Derby Telegraph
116. The Twitter user @derbyram76 (aka Leitrim Ram) (for creating his own version of ze list)
117. Boris Johnson
118. Daleks
119. Derbyshire Mortgage Services (blasphemous mortgage firm)
120. Pancake day
121. Doctor Who and their companions
122. I'm Red Till Dead
123. BBC Radio Derby
124. Colin Fray
125. Uche Ikpeazu
126. Sky Bet
127. Mitchell and Webb
128. Cardiff City fans
129. Bungle from Rainbow (his coke addiction is causing confusion in the Quantuma offices, thus preventing Derby's takeover)
130. Notcher
131. Whoever at Nottingham Forest is asking the EFL to lobby FIFA to let players at Russian clubs walk away from their contracts
132. Chelsea
133. DC Comics
134. Preston North End
135. Billy Joel
136. Igor Novikov
137. Ben Smyth (treacherous "Derby fan" on Twitter slandering Derby's "amazing" supporters)
138. Joel Moore (another Derby traitor on Twitter who is going against the "Fight 'till the end" narrative)
139. Lech Poznan (for having the audacity to ask for money owed to them)
140. Kieran Maguire
141. Truth
142. HBB
143. Evangelos Marinakis
144. David (moderator on the DCFC Fans forum)
145. "Interested parties"
146. Club 84 (a Twitter user who posted a blasphemous image)
147. Alan Nixon
148. Matt Slater
149. Coventry City
150. The sun
151. Jack Marriott
152. The Sex Pistols
153. QPR
154. The Bristol City Forum OTIB
155. Secret squirrels
156. FiveThirtyEight's Super Computer
157. Mr Magoo
158. Douglas Adams
159. Philip Madoc
160. Will Smith and Chris Rock

161. The Boogie.

[Ska Junkie]

Under bouncer the dog, the sex pistols and bungle from rainbow, I reckon we will be ok when the blame starts flying about!

[REDOXO]

4 hours ago, Marvin said:

I've been catching up on the Forest thread which provides good reading. OTIB is on the updated HMRCWRDCFC Blame List.

https://www.forestforum.co.uk/threads/44511-The-demise-of-Wayne-Rooney-s-D***y-County-(in-Administration)-(and-denial)/page983

 

 

The new and improved official Derby County blame list:
1. The EFL
2. Steve Gibson
3. Neil Bausor
4. Middlesbrough
5. Rob Couhig
6. Wycombe
7. Covid
8. The ticket office
9. The HMRC
10. Nicholas Randall
11. Trevor Birch
12. Darren Bent
13. Steve McClaren
14. Danny Higginbotham
15. Richard Keogh
16. The European Super League
17. Sky Sports
18. The Football League paper
19. Burton Albion
20. Derby City Council
21. Mind (the mental health charity)
22. Opposition fans
23. The taxpayer
24. Derby's creditors
25. Forest fans that sit in the Upper Bridgford
26. Rick Parry
27. Brice Samba
28. Jack Colback
29. Simon Jordan
30. ITV Digital
31. Setanta
32. Brian Clough
33. Juventus
34. Tim Robinson
35. Lewis Grabban
36. Brennan Johnson
37. Kenny Burns
38. Nigel Clough
39. Billy Davies
40. LTLF
41. Rockabilly and his curse
42. Derby fans (whilst also being blameless at the same time)
43. Stan Collymore
44. Leeds United
45. Ed Dawes
46. Ugg (the caveman that created football, leading to the creation of the EFL)
47. Scott McKenna (for heading aeroplanes away that may contain investors, thus preventing Derby's takeover)
48. OK SpidermAndy! (for upsetting Derby fans by querying how long it will be before Derby fans nick Liverpool's "You'll Never Walk Alone" chant)
49. John Percy
50. Rob Dorsett
51. FFSForest (a Twitter user who pointed out how the absence of Derby's "unreal" supporters this season has cost them around £5m, which would help them complete the season. Clearly an EFL stooge!)
52. 166,000 empty seats (probably the fault of the seat manufacturer, rather than their "unreal" fans though)
53. Forest selling players to Olympiacos
54. Liverpool fans, Sheffield police and the Hillsboro/Govt report (making stadiums all seater prevented them from selling 60k every game)
55. Lyle Taylor
56. Adrian Durham
57. Luke Plange and Crystal Palace
58. Matt Donohue
59. Duane Holmes
60. Beardo7 and his £10 bet
61. Holland & Barrett
62. Bobby Zamora
63. Goalposts
64. Kim Leck
65. Aston Villa
66. Myself
67. The Mysterons
68. Captain Black
69. Shaggy
70. The Queen
71. RealRed85
72. Billingham Synthonia FC
73. Text messages
74. Congo_red (for daring to use facts)
75. Chevin Homes (the "preferred" partner in property)
76. Gianluca Di Marzio
77. Pozzo family (Udinese/Watford)
78. Brexit
79. Derby's Category 1 academy
80. Adam Hart-Davis
81. Birmingham City fans
82. Derby forum users Gritstone Tup and Mucker1884 (for breaking away from the hive mind and going against the narrative)
83. Chris Kirchner
84. Chris Doidge (blasphemous BBC Radio Derby presenter)
85. Daniel Taylor
86. Hasbro
87. From Software
88. Atari
89. 32 Red
90. Sheffield Wednesday fans
91. Bouncer the dog
92. Sam Longson
93. Alcohol
94. Leicester City
95. MaxiRobriguez
96. The MLS
97. The Joiners Arms in Quarndon
98. Highways England
99. Middlesbrough fans bringing facts onto Derby's forum
100. Ze list
101. Darren Huckerby
102. Del Boy and Rodney
103. Harry Enfield
104. Jeremy Simpson
105. Mason Bennett
106. Tom Lawrence
107. Ball boys
108. Scott Malone
109. Tubby pitch invaders
110. Kenny Loggins
111. Nathan Thompson
112. Vladimir Putin
113. MPs
114. "Fake" deadlines
115. The Derby Telegraph
116. The Twitter user @derbyram76 (aka Leitrim Ram) (for creating his own version of ze list)
117. Boris Johnson
118. Daleks
119. Derbyshire Mortgage Services (blasphemous mortgage firm)
120. Pancake day
121. Doctor Who and their companions
122. I'm Red Till Dead
123. BBC Radio Derby
124. Colin Fray
125. Uche Ikpeazu
126. Sky Bet
127. Mitchell and Webb
128. Cardiff City fans
129. Bungle from Rainbow (his coke addiction is causing confusion in the Quantuma offices, thus preventing Derby's takeover)
130. Notcher
131. Whoever at Nottingham Forest is asking the EFL to lobby FIFA to let players at Russian clubs walk away from their contracts
132. Chelsea
133. DC Comics
134. Preston North End
135. Billy Joel
136. Igor Novikov
137. Ben Smyth (treacherous "Derby fan" on Twitter slandering Derby's "amazing" supporters)
138. Joel Moore (another Derby traitor on Twitter who is going against the "Fight 'till the end" narrative)
139. Lech Poznan (for having the audacity to ask for money owed to them)
140. Kieran Maguire
141. Truth
142. HBB
143. Evangelos Marinakis
144. David (moderator on the DCFC Fans forum)
145. "Interested parties"
146. Club 84 (a Twitter user who posted a blasphemous image)
147. Alan Nixon
148. Matt Slater
149. Coventry City
150. The sun
151. Jack Marriott
152. The Sex Pistols
153. QPR
154. The Bristol City Forum OTIB
155. Secret squirrels
156. FiveThirtyEight's Super Computer
157. Mr Magoo
158. Douglas Adams
159. Philip Madoc
160. Will Smith and Chris Rock

Unless I am very much mistaken Mr Popodopolous is not on there. WTF!

[Mr Popodopolous]

Seen a suggestion by a couple of posters that Derby/Derbyshire Council buy Pride Park and lease it back to the club.

That would be one way, it would mean the EFL could add in a fair market rent in place of the actual likely rent for FFP purposes- perhaps based on the original transaction and the original rental arrangements as recommended by Derby's Independent valuer.

Whether spending taxpayers money on such a deal in times of inflation etc would be justifiable though is another debate?

Edited March 31, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous

[1960maaan]

7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Seen a suggestion by a couple of posters that Derby/Derbyshire Council buy Pride Park and lease it back to the club.

That would be one way, it would mean the EFL could add in a fair market rent- perhaps based on the original transaction. Whether spending taxpayers money on such a deal in times of inflation etc would be justifiable though is another debate?

It does sound like the sort of thing that could work . Being a one club City makes it a little easier, and if the deal was done in a way to make the Council money in time I could see it happening.

[Mr Popodopolous]

17 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

It does sound like the sort of thing that could work . Being a one club City makes it a little easier, and if the deal was done in a way to make the Council money in time I could see it happening.

Council pay off debt to MSD/Mel and acquire the ground,

How about this?

The first bit then the lease/agreement...

• 10% rent- £2.-2.5m per year maybe depending on exactly how big the debt around Pride Park is, upward in line with inflation or downward if we get deflation
• Split the commercial revenue 50/50 with the council, either put an unilateral option for the club to buy after a given period or revert back to the club after the Council hit a certain profit.
• Repairs the responsibility of the club.

Edited March 31, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous

[REDOXO]

8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Seen a suggestion by a couple of posters that Derby/Derbyshire Council buy Pride Park and lease it back to the club.

That would be one way, it would mean the EFL could add in a fair market rent- perhaps based on the original transaction. Whether spending taxpayers money on such a deal in times of inflation etc would be justifiable though is another debate?

I guess. Although there may be several legal barriers. 
 

But I’m not sure that changes the issues much. Yes you could trust Derbyshire council a lot more than Mel who would eff you over as soon as he could. However 25m+ of tax debt not a bean in the bank a load of out of contract players etc wouldn’t change. How much is the name Derby County worth to anyone. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Shouldn't bite but it's too easy- a bit like distinguishing between 'their and there...'

Except this time he's taken it a bit further, Old Man Gee Screamer !!

Quote

I'll collect the paper plates they'll all be using for us, to save for for all my parties.  Apart from Bristol City, Forest and the thick Neanderthals constantly posting on twitter from Coventry, Boro and Digbeth.  They'll get the best Royal Crown Derby.  I'll stick the OTIB socially deficient society on the guest list for there's.  They could do with a night out and some sunshine away from the basements.

Anyone.

Edited March 31, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous

[Marvin]

1 hour ago, REDOXO said:

Unless I am very much mistaken Mr Popodopolous is not on there. WTF!

He needs to up his game with more home truths, facts and common sense.

[1960maaan]

24 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Council pay off debt to MSD/Mel and acquire the ground,

How about this?

The first bit then the lease/agreement...

• 10% rent- £2.-2.5m per year maybe depending on exactly how big the debt around Pride Park is, upward in line with inflation or downward if we get deflation
• Split the commercial revenue 50/50 with the council, either put an unilateral option for the club to buy after a given period or revert back to the club after the Council hit a certain profit.
• Repairs the responsibility of the club.

There could be many ways it could be structured. Bottom line would be the Council get yearly payments, over a minimum time. Then when the Club are able they could buy the ground back at a small premium. A loan sum could be added to the yearly fee. 

I'm no accountant, but I could see it working and the non football locals could be placated by the fact the ground would be effectively subsidising their Council Tax. 

 

[Hxj]

Latest update from Quantuma.

Not even worth posting.

Nothing to say, nothing is happening.

[Mr Popodopolous]

7 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

There could be many ways it could be structured. Bottom line would be the Council get yearly payments, over a minimum time. Then when the Club are able they could buy the ground back at a small premium. A loan sum could be added to the yearly fee. 

I'm no accountant, but I could see it working and the non football locals could be placated by the fact the ground would be effectively subsidising their Council Tax. 

 

Agreed- although seen one suggestion whereby the council buy it and rent it back to the club for £1 per year...that'd be a harder sell for a range of reasons IMO! Again though, could enable the EFL to go back to the 2018 deal and the "Fair Rent" potentially.

[Sir Geoff]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60946333

So nearly a week to sift through both applicants and still unable to come up with a preferred bidder. A new one for the NF blame list above, the preferred bidder for being awkward.

[Lanterne Rouge]

5 minutes ago, Hxj said:

Latest update from Quantuma.

Not even worth posting.

Nothing to say, nothing is happening.

Friday tomorrow so no doubt all will be revealed..........................................

Or not.

[downendcity]

1 hour ago, REDOXO said:

Unless I am very much mistaken Mr Popodopolous is not on there. WTF!

FFS!

[Sir Geoff]

Just now, Lanterne Rouge said:

Friday tomorrow so no doubt all will be revealed..........................................

Or not.

Got their excuses in early, see my link above. Now blaming the bidders for undermining the process.

[downendcity]

8 minutes ago, Hxj said:

Latest update from Quantuma.

Not even worth posting.

Nothing to say, nothing is happening....

....but it is happening imminently.

[downendcity]

49 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

It does sound like the sort of thing that could work . Being a one club City makes it a little easier, and if the deal was done in a way to make the Council money in time I could see it happening.

 

47 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Council pay off debt to MSD/Mel and acquire the ground,

How about this?

The first bit then the lease/agreement...

• 10% rent- £2.-2.5m per year maybe depending on exactly how big the debt around Pride Park is, upward in line with inflation or downward if we get deflation
• Split the commercial revenue 50/50 with the council, either put an unilateral option for the club to buy after a given period or revert back to the club after the Council hit a certain profit.
• Repairs the responsibility of the club.

Both councils should buy the whole club on a joint basis.

Then we could have DCCDCCDCFC!

[downendcity]

28 minutes ago, Marvin said:

He needs to up his game with more home truths, facts and common sense.

When it comes to Derby fans...

[Mr Popodopolous]

One side note I had almost forgotten about.

The Wycombe claim- has this just been dropped, ignored or what? Irrespective of the merits of it, I'm pretty sure Couhig has not dropped it- or is it the case that it's such a small amount they could win that it is no impediment, £100k something like that...but from what I read online, there is no indication that Wycombe have withdrawn it e.g.

[Davefevs]

14 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60946333

So nearly a week to sift through both applicants and still unable to come up with a preferred bidder. A new one for the NF blame list above, the preferred bidder for being awkward.

When Q say sifting through PBs they mean “probably bullshit”.

[REDOXO]

29 minutes ago, downendcity said:

....but nothing is happening imminently.

Fixed that for you!

Please..:.Can the Derby fan who told me on here to believe what I like, but the deal is done it’s just Gibson holding it up come back, so I can better understand what’s going on now!

Edited March 31, 2022 by REDOXO

[1960maaan]

47 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Agreed- although seen one suggestion whereby the council buy it and rent it back to the club for £1 per year...that'd be a harder sell for a range of reasons IMO! Again though, could enable the EFL to go back to the 2018 deal and the "Fair Rent" potentially.

The problem there is Football fans thinking everyone cares about the Club, they don't.
I'd be going mad if , as a non Football person, I saw my Council Tax going towards a thing that has had millions thrown at it, and wasted. I imagine the Council would be aware enough to realise. Again, it needs people to be sensible, Football fans rarely are. 

[chinapig]

44 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60946333

So nearly a week to sift through both applicants and still unable to come up with a preferred bidder. A new one for the NF blame list above, the preferred bidder for being awkward.

Last week's statement was:

Joint administrators Quantuma issued a statement on Friday saying they will "assess the merits of all bids received over the weekend of 26-27 March and identify their preferred bidder".

"This will be the bid which we feel best secures the long-term future of the club," it added.

"Early next week, the joint administrators will commence discussions with the EFL.

"Further to their approval to proceed, we will then be in a position to publicly name the preferred bidder".

So another deadline missed - all in good faith of course, no question of misleading anyone and naturally it's somebody else's fault.

[Mr Popodopolous]

3 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

The problem there is Football fans thinking everyone cares about the Club, they don't.
I'd be going mad if , as a non Football person, I saw my Council Tax going towards a thing that has had millions thrown at it, and wasted. I imagine the Council would be aware enough to realise. Again, it needs people to be sensible, Football fans rarely are. 

Agreed.

That proposal ie the £1 rent, I see no commercial rationale whatsoever. Would it be a good use of public money in these straitened times.

[redsquirrel]

the whole thing is just a basket case, why dont the efl just do the decent thing, put everyone there out of their misery and boot them out the league so they can go bust and get it all wrote off?