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19 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

It`s so obvious what they are doing. When it inevitably goes tits up just like every other pie-in-the-sky stadium idea that they`ve ever had it won`t be because Wally hasn`t got a pot to piss in and can`t get some other sucker to pay for it they will claim that it`s all some Illuminati style conspiracy involving the council, Steve Lansdown, Sainsbury`s and probably Wycombe Wanderers to deprive them of what is rightfully theirs.

Nah, I think BCFC11 misread the context of that post on Gaschat - the guy was actually criticising his fellow gasheads for always playing the victim and thinking the council and SL etc are against them ... nevertheless, you’re right, they’ll still try and blame everyone else, despite what one lone voice of reason said ...

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54 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

You WOULD think any journalist worth his salt would have been "on" this boardroom contretemps a lot earlier than now if this was common knowledge for months. Just shows how in love the EP is with the blue few, not wanting to rock the boat etc.

Slarti, you beat me to it. I was thinking isn't strange how what appeared to be an overnight decision is suddenly "obvious" and "being signalled for months", and yet good old Gregor was being the master of diplomacy all this time. @Bristol Rob is wrong, the AQ's don't need another yes man, they already have GMcG. 

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33 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Slarti, you beat me to it. I was thinking isn't strange how what appeared to be an overnight decision is suddenly "obvious" and "being signalled for months", and yet good old Gregor was being the master of diplomacy all this time. @Bristol Rob is wrong, the AQ's don't need another yes man, they already have GMcG. 

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31 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Slarti, you beat me to it. I was thinking isn't strange how what appeared to be an overnight decision is suddenly "obvious" and "being signalled for months", and yet good old Gregor was being the master of diplomacy all this time. @Bristol Rob is wrong, the AQ's don't need another yes man, they already have GMcG. 

In fairness G McG is the City correspondent, The sags have their own lickspittle brownose who reports on everything sag, can't remember what his name is. But all come under the auspices of the editorial Sag Post !

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2 hours ago, TomF said:

So right now they'll say they're listening but actually nothing will happen. They'll say they're forced into admin with no buyers, partly blame if on SH (the obvious scapegoat now imo) and walk off with the deeds to the mem. OR they sell the club but hold on to the mem, rent it back to the new owners.. 

thats what will happen, they can't borrow any more against the mem, they ether have to dip into their own pocket (won't happen) or put the club in administration (the only way they'll get money back now)

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3 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

thats what will happen, they can't borrow any more against the mem, they ether have to dip into their own pocket (won't happen) or put the club in administration (the only way they'll get money back now)

Also there probably won't be a better season to take the points deduction for them . Almost as if all the stars have aligned and their saviour came forth bearing gifts whilst riding a camel..........

Oh hang on.

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9 hours ago, slartibartfast said:

You WOULD think any journalist worth his salt would have been "on" this boardroom contretemps a lot earlier than now if this was common knowledge for months. Just shows how in love the EP is with the blue few, not wanting to rock the boat etc.

I’ve posted this before, but I’m happy to re-iterate - I used to work with a guy who was from Liverpool, he was a die hard Tranmere Rovers fan. He moved down to Bristol to work for the Bristol Post (not Evening Post, so the ‘Evil Post’ jokes are still lame) - then he left them to join my company.... and the conversation obviously quickly turned to football, as it does.

He told me, with no axe to grind, that every sports editorial meeting he was in at The Bristol Post made it clear that focusing on Bristol Rovers and ‘bigging them up’ was paramount and he said a reporter was even once sent hundreds of miles to cover the court case of one City fan who’d been arrested at an away game somewhere up North - just to get a negative story about us. And this was common apparently.

As I said, he was from the North West of England, he had no axe to grind, he simply moved down here to further his journalistic career but he was shocked at the bias that was encouraged to favour the gas at editorial meetings,

I know visiting gasheads on here will say that is BS, but that guy is a Tranmere Rovers fan, he has absolutely no reason to lie - he didn’t know anyone when he moved down and I have no reason to doubt him. 

He said when he worked at The Bristol Post there was a real emphasis on bigging up Rovers and discrediting City.... just reporting what he said ...

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1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

I’ve posted this before, but I’m happy to re-iterate - I used to work with a guy who was from Liverpool, he was a die hard Tranmere Rovers fan. He moved down to Bristol to work for the Bristol Post (not Evening Post, so the ‘Evil Post’ jokes are still lame) - then he left them to join my company.... and the conversation obviously quickly turned to football, as it does.

He told me, with no axe to grind, that every sports editorial meeting he was in at The Bristol Post made it clear that focusing on Bristol Rovers and ‘bigging them up’ was paramount and he said a reporter was even once sent hundreds of miles to cover the court case of one City fan who’d been arrested at an away game somewhere up North - just to get a negative story about us. And this was common apparently.

As I said, he was from the North West of England, he had no axe to grind, he simply moved down here to further his journalistic career but he was shocked at the bias that was encouraged to favour the gas at editorial meetings,

I know visiting gasheads on here will say that is BS, but that guy is a Tranmere Rovers fan, he has absolutely no reason to lie - he didn’t know anyone when he moved down and I have no reason to doubt him. 

He said when he worked at The Bristol Post there was a real emphasis on bigging up Rovers and discrediting City.... just reporting what he said ...

I don’t doubt this whatsoever, would explain their obsession on mentioning how ‘amazing’ the Sags support is every couple of weeks, yet you compare it to the rest of L1 and it’s actually quite shit. 
Then with whatever the **** is/has going/gone on over at Chernobyl for the past few months you would of thought they of sent someone over to find out some more info on all these new rumoured takeovers and how someone is finally gonna build the pikeys a ground but there’s next to nothing, or maybe they did and it’s all bad news so never reported a thing? Cannot wait to see their headline when the Administrators are called into the Dump.......

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15 hours ago, Monkeh said:

thats what will happen, they can't borrow any more against the mem, they ether have to dip into their own pocket (won't happen) or put the club in administration (the only way they'll get money back now)

When The Listening Bank turns a deaf ear. And The Bank That Likes To Say Yes tells you to "do one" and has you escorted from the premises.

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8 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

I’ve posted this before, but I’m happy to re-iterate - I used to work with a guy who was from Liverpool, he was a die hard Tranmere Rovers fan. He moved down to Bristol to work for the Bristol Post (not Evening Post, so the ‘Evil Post’ jokes are still lame) - then he left them to join my company.... and the conversation obviously quickly turned to football, as it does.

He told me, with no axe to grind, that every sports editorial meeting he was in at The Bristol Post made it clear that focusing on Bristol Rovers and ‘bigging them up’ was paramount and he said a reporter was even once sent hundreds of miles to cover the court case of one City fan who’d been arrested at an away game somewhere up North - just to get a negative story about us. And this was common apparently.

As I said, he was from the North West of England, he had no axe to grind, he simply moved down here to further his journalistic career but he was shocked at the bias that was encouraged to favour the gas at editorial meetings,

I know visiting gasheads on here will say that is BS, but that guy is a Tranmere Rovers fan, he has absolutely no reason to lie - he didn’t know anyone when he moved down and I have no reason to doubt him. 

He said when he worked at The Bristol Post there was a real emphasis on bigging up Rovers and discrediting City.... just reporting what he said ...

No surprise then when the post  kept peddling the myth that wally was a billionaire for months 

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1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said:

No surprise then when the post  kept peddling the myth that wally was a billionaire for months 

They were only repeating what the fans were saying.

Gasheads were so desperate to have their own version of Lansdown, as soon as they heard the Al Qadis were from the Middle East they took to Social Media (where the Post get most of their stories) and let their gobs and imaginations run wild.

Bunch of planks, they were wrong again.

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12 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

They were only repeating what the fans were saying.

Gasheads were so desperate to have their own version of Lansdown, as soon as they heard the Al Qadis were from the Middle East they took to Social Media (where the Post get most of their stories) and let their gobs and imaginations run wild.

Bunch of planks, they were wrong again.

But within a couple of days, city fans on here were questioning any proof of his level of wealth, after doing basic research. 
The kind of thing that journalists are supposed to do. 

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15 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

They were only repeating what the fans were saying.

Gasheads were so desperate to have their own version of Lansdown, as soon as they heard the Al Qadis were from the Middle East they took to Social Media (where the Post get most of their stories) and let their gobs and imaginations run wild.

Bunch of planks, they were wrong again.

No excuse though is it? Just some basic journalism and investigation would have corrected that, it took less than a week for our own forum users to do that.

The annoying thing is that national outlets then took their lead from the BP and we’re making the same mistakes.

 

@Bar BS3 has made the same point as I was typing.

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2 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

No excuse though is it? Just some basic journalism and investigation would have corrected that, it took less than a week for our own forum users to do that.

The annoying thing is that national outlets then took their lead from the BP and we’re making the same mistakes.

 

@Bar BS3

Not making any excuses for the BP, it’s an amateur set up with ‘journalists’ who scan through LadBible on Facebook to find their latest scoops. 

Its throughly satisfying that both the Sags and the Post made themselves look like idiots.

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10 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

I’ve posted this before, but I’m happy to re-iterate - I used to work with a guy who was from Liverpool, he was a die hard Tranmere Rovers fan. He moved down to Bristol to work for the Bristol Post (not Evening Post, so the ‘Evil Post’ jokes are still lame) - then he left them to join my company.... and the conversation obviously quickly turned to football, as it does.

He told me, with no axe to grind, that every sports editorial meeting he was in at The Bristol Post made it clear that focusing on Bristol Rovers and ‘bigging them up’ was paramount and he said a reporter was even once sent hundreds of miles to cover the court case of one City fan who’d been arrested at an away game somewhere up North - just to get a negative story about us. And this was common apparently.

As I said, he was from the North West of England, he had no axe to grind, he simply moved down here to further his journalistic career but he was shocked at the bias that was encouraged to favour the gas at editorial meetings,

I know visiting gasheads on here will say that is BS, but that guy is a Tranmere Rovers fan, he has absolutely no reason to lie - he didn’t know anyone when he moved down and I have no reason to doubt him. 

He said when he worked at The Bristol Post there was a real emphasis on bigging up Rovers and discrediting City.... just reporting what he said ...

I just don't get it. Why would they "bat" for the wrong side. Surely ,if anything they should lean toward the larger fan base, sell more copy etc. Everyone loves a success story (well the press, anyway). It just seems a very poor business model, alienating the far larger readership.................no wonder the Post is failing !

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41 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

But within a couple of days, city fans on here were questioning any proof of his level of wealth, after doing basic research. 
The kind of thing that journalists are supposed to do. 

Don't forget Wallys BBC interview on Football Focus was it? When asked "why did you buy Bristol Rovers, when you could have bought any club in the Premiership" and he replied "not all the clubs in the Prem". Trying to make out they had so much wealth certainly never helped matters, but it was proper cringe - and the blue few loved it.....

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2 hours ago, slartibartfast said:

I just don't get it. Why would they "bat" for the wrong side. Surely ,if anything they should lean toward the larger fan base, sell more copy etc. Everyone loves a success story (well the press, anyway). It just seems a very poor business model, alienating the far larger readership.................no wonder the Post is failing !

Purely because the EP editorial has been full of Rovers supporters for decades. They then recruit neutrals who have a bias for the underdog and write stories about City, regardless of whether true or not, because more people would read about city.

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2 hours ago, slartibartfast said:

I just don't get it. Why would they "bat" for the wrong side. Surely ,if anything they should lean toward the larger fan base, sell more copy etc. Everyone loves a success story (well the press, anyway). It just seems a very poor business model, alienating the far larger readership.................no wonder the Post is failing !

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36 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

Well Shrewsbury certainly missed a trick today, only have themselves to blame by leaving Agent Max on the bench. No chance he’d of conceded 4 against that lot.

They were probably afraid he would buckle under the pressure of 10,000 s*gs all screaming shitheeeeeead in unison and his confidence would be shot for the rest of the season.

In fact, Max probably asked to be dropped as he was terrified of them.

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Earlier today the gas manager was being interviewed by AD on Radio Bristol. I couldn’t believe my ears when he said “we aren’t a team that creates many chances, we just aren’t that sort of footballing team ...”

A pro football manager admitting that his team aren’t set up to create chances! What sort of f@cked up message does that send to their ever-dwindling number of supporters?! He should be sacked for that statement alone. However, if he was sacked a career in stand up comedy awaits as he went on to say “the club has things in place that will take a while to come to fruition” - with subliminal references to the Fruit Bowl Stadium like that, Michael McIntyre will be quaking in his boots ...?

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13 hours ago, City Rocker said:

When The Listening Bank turns a deaf ear. And The Bank That Likes To Say Yes tells you to "do one" and has you escorted from the premises.

They really need to step up their peg production, and lets not forget they'll be raking it in next month as sales of festive holly will be going through the roof again. 

(ever more popular tumble dryer and washer dryer ownership has understandably hit clothes peg sales hard since the 70's which has obviously threatened their overall viability - sadly their brief foray into nipple clamp manufacture flopped when the anticipated upsurge in popularity of boob cricket failed to materialise due to legal rulings in the British Court system.)

Cant imagine what they'll do with any leftover stock of Christmas holly though,  oh yeah, I know!

R I P wreaths might be popular in the not too distant future. 

 

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According to the evil post, Cockman is hoping to spend the zillions they have made from their miraculous progress in the EFL Cup and to the dizzy heights of round 2 of the FA Cup on bringing in a ployer are two in January.  I have a feeling that Wally is about to tell him "sorry mate, but those incredible feats aint even enough to cover our losses and I'm afraid that we are going to have to let JCH go to cover them (did I mention his release clause?)".  Never mind, you've still got Tom Nichols ?

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9 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said:

According to the evil post, Cockman is hoping to spend the zillions they have made from their miraculous progress in the EFL Cup and to the dizzy heights of round 2 of the FA Cup on bringing in a ployer are two in January. 

Not sure getting knocked out of the EFL Cup in round two back in August counts as “miraculous progress” - but it probably would to a gashead ...

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59 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Not sure getting knocked out of the EFL Cup in round two back in August counts as “miraculous progress” - but it probably would to a gashead ...

I think @wendyredredrobin means that trophy that nowadays is only for the lower orders and Premier League schoolboys.

The one I hope we never have to compete in again. I also hope the competition, like the s*ags, dies on it`s arse in the not too distant future.

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10 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

I think @wendyredredrobin means that trophy that nowadays is only for the lower orders and Premier League schoolboys.

The one I hope we never have to compete in again. I also hope the competition, like the s*ags, dies on it`s arse in the not too distant future.

Aslong as it’s just after our u23’s spank them 6-0 infront of the loyal and true.

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On 23/11/2019 at 10:23, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

They were only repeating what the fans were saying.

Gasheads were so desperate to have their own version of Lansdown, as soon as they heard the Al Qadis were from the Middle East they took to Social Media (where the Post get most of their stories) and let their gobs and imaginations run wild.

Bunch of planks, they were wrong again.

And yet funnily enough , when they found out he was penny less ( in football terms ) they were all quick to say how much they disliked the billionaire modern football ideology . 

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2 hours ago, steviestevieneville said:

And yet funnily enough , when they found out he was penny less ( in football terms ) they were all quick to say how much they disliked the billionaire modern football ideology . 

And don`t forget constantly accusing SL of offshore tax evasion - remind me where Dwane Sports are based again?

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Have heard some interesting information on the Fruit market for their potential new home. 

They put in an offer upwards of £20 mil for the land, however it was tied up in all sorts of clauses about them selling the Mem and projected profits and such which meant the current owners wouldn't have seen the full amount till around 2028/2030. (Actually Wise on rovers part given their current financial situation, but not what the fruit market owners want)

There are several parties which own the fruit market and they are looking for money up front. They are mostly of an older generation probably looking towards retirement and are keen for the market be kept running by the new owners in some shape or form. 

These  parties are not currently represented by someone which is difficult as it means that anyone looking to buy the site are having to negotiate with each of the parties rather than 1 pwhich organises their collective interests and demands. All of this will make it difficult for them or anyone else to secure a deal in the current state of affairs. 

There are other interested parties in purchasing the site or wider parts of st Phillip's marsh for other major developments which could may or may not benefit any stadium proposals.

Should the current owners get serious about cashing out and employing an agent it could cost rovers a bit more than they are willing to pay as well as additional demands to cater to. Particularly if they cant pay most of it up front.

Maybe they will join up with a property developer to provide something similar to the future ashton gate wider development ? ( flats hotels and offices as well as the main stadium)  but theres lots of questions about rovers current financial situation, and how they could convince someone to get into bed with them. 

My view, it could very well happen but probably not before 2025. If the council are supportive of a stadium in that location it would make sense as both grounds would be close to any future transport or infrastructure investments which are planned for the area.  Any money spent on amenities like bars and cafes run by the club or local businesses would see increased returns if the site is shared by a stadium and flats and offices.

Anyway. Back to taking the P*ss out of them. 

And apologies for any formatting and spelling, I'm on a train on my mobile.  

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Next game for them is Plymuff on Sunday.  FA Cup local derby, so there should be a good number of travelling supporters.  More interesting will be how many Sags actually turn up when they have to pay. They rarely seem to muster more than 6k of late even when season ticket holders are included.

Are there any marathons, cycle races or rallies on to use as an excuse or will it just be because it's not Saturday?

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5 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Next game for them is Plymuff on Sunday.  FA Cup local derby, so there should be a good number of travelling supporters.  More interesting will be how many Sags actually turn up when they have to pay. They rarely seem to muster more than 6k of late even when season ticket holders are included.

Are there any marathons, cycle races or rallies on to use as an excuse or will it just be because it's not Saturday?

Cheaper car parking for Christmas shoppers

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1 hour ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Next game for them is Plymuff on Sunday.  FA Cup local derby, so there should be a good number of travelling supporters.  More interesting will be how many Sags actually turn up when they have to pay. They rarely seem to muster more than 6k of late even when season ticket holders are included.

Are there any marathons, cycle races or rallies on to use as an excuse or will it just be because it's not Saturday?

Yep, season ticket holders don't count towards the attendance which will be just those who've bothered to buy tickets. Just under 7,000 home supporters is my guess.

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9 hours ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

Yep, season ticket holders don't count towards the attendance which will be just those who've bothered to buy tickets. Just under 7,000 home supporters is my guess.

Oh I see what you have done there :)

Well considering we have only had 7000 home supporters once this season and that one section of the ground is closed on Sunday ( Yeah I know) my guess is that there will be around 4000 Rovers and 1500 Plymouth.

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1 minute ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Oh I see what you have done there :)

Well considering we have only had 7000 home supporters once this season and that one section of the ground is closed on Sunday ( Yeah I know) my guess is that there will be around 4000 Rovers and 1500 Plymouth.

Is it forecast to be windy? 

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4 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Oh I see what you have done there :)

Well considering we have only had 7000 home supporters once this season and that one section of the ground is closed on Sunday ( Yeah I know) my guess is that there will be around 4000 Rovers and 1500 Plymouth.

You really do need a bigger ground, Miah. Build it and they will come (so make sure that the walls can be wiped clean).

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28 minutes ago, bert tann said:

We will be moving North not South and in homage to our President's favourite team one end of the ground will be called "the Shed"

So will the other end and the two sides.

It’s a slight improvement on marquees I’ll give you that.

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6 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Oh I see what you have done there :)

Well considering we have only had 7000 home supporters once this season and that one section of the ground is closed on Sunday ( Yeah I know) my guess is that there will be around 4000 Rovers and 1500 Plymouth.

Are you telling us they can actually divide up that dilapidated dump into "sections"?

Talk about trying to big up dirty plastic chairs and moth-eaten tents.

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https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/exclusive-bristol-rovers-want-forge-3579775

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One major resource he feels the Gas are not making the most of, lies just five miles to the south of the Mem and a subject he knows full well some supporters will find hard to accept.

Bristol City are one of the most prolific loaning clubs within the Championship, with 10 players on temporary hire around the EFL including, most notably, midfielders Liam Walsh at Coventry and Joe Morrell with Lincoln City plus goalkeeper Max O'Leary at Shrewsbury.

Relations between the clubs have been tense since Matty Taylor's departure from the Mem to Ashton Gate in January 2017 but Widdrington believes bridges need to be built for the betterment of Bristol Rovers.

As the former Southampton midfielder admits, City would surely be appreciative of the opportunity to send some of their best talent to a League One club in an area that is easily accessible for them to monitor, while for the Gas, the benefits are obvious.

"Whether the fans like to hear this or not, I'd like to see there be a little more of a cordial relationship between the clubs - we can help them and they can help us," Widdrington told Bristol Live.

"I can't comment on that [the Matty Taylor transfer] because I wasn't here, but certain people at this club will say the right thing wasn't done on one or two occasions.

"I have no problem with anybody at Bristol City, I know a lot of the staff there including (loans manager) Brian Tinnion. Our knowledge of them is as good as their knowledge of us, because they come and watch our games every week.

"We don't necessarily watch their games because we're fishing in a different pond but there might be people who they want to get out on loan to develop and they could improve us.

"I come from Newcastle, so I completely get the rivalry and the politics but, ultimately, we want to improve as a football club and get better on the pitch and I want to do that in any which way we can."

Graham Coughlan has been seen regularly at Bristol City Under-23 matches and he and his staff have a good relationship with Lee Johnson and As Widdrington says, there is absolutely no reason why stronger lines of communication cannot exist - beyond the political and tribal divide between supporters that many would say is paramount in terms of importance.

From City's point of view, it is a prospect they would undoubtedly be open to but, based on Johnson's comments in August, a thaw in relations is required.

"I know there has been interest in our young players from Bristol Rovers - I don't know what the historic feeling about that would be," Johnson said.

 

Personally I hope we never help them out with our promising young talents ever again. Could turn them from a mid-table side into a promotion challenging one. 

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Not really a great environment for our young starlets to develop, is it.

Portaloos, tin baths, no training facilities and having to be subjected to racism and shouts of S'head after every misplaced pass.

There are much better places they can go in the football league - 90 of them to be precise.

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13 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Not really a great environment for our young starlets to develop, is it.

Portaloos, tin baths, no training facilities and having to be subjected to racism and shouts of S'head after every misplaced pass.

There are much better places they can go in the football league - 90 of them to be precise.

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