Numero Uno Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: People actually believe the complete bollocks spouted on otib. There's a few on Facebook. If you genuinely believe that then you may have missed how football management works. Anything can happen to change what NP wants or what BCFC wants and, to a lesser extent, what the fans want. It goes for players as well- what NP, BCFC and the fans want is to keep our best but there is little evidence that these wishes will be granted. The point I’m making is a few of you bellyaching on here won’t persuade Sir Steve to sack Pearson any time soon as much as you want it to happen………. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Numero Uno said: The point I’m making is a few of you bellyaching on here won’t persuade Sir Steve to sack Pearson any time soon as much as you want it to happen………. That's a different point entirely and one you didnt make. You said "he’ll still be Manager next week, next month, next season etc.". I said you cannot state that as things change and change is often beyond what anyone can control including Mr Lansdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) The point of these media interviews is to enlighten the fans. What other reason is there for them? Then you get the journalists opinion on it. Let's face it...apart from actual statistics and facts, everything you read from the media is an opinion, no more valid than yours or mine. It's purely an opinion based on what they are told, see or hear. As we know...opinions can differ massively. Then you have to take into account whether the ' facts' coming from the horse's mouth so to speak are true. You'd be niave to think everything said is true. For example...when it comes to player dealings, interest etc....when NP says he has no idea...really? Apart from actual facts...it's smoke and mirrors and opinions. Edited February 12, 2022 by spudski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awbb Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Mike Stone said: Let's just hope the BBC dont send Pat Murphy our way to interview big Nige again. I’m in the opposite camp. It would either be a really good interview or The Office levels of difficult to listen to. Either way, I would enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 20 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: He had a go at Forrester before he'd really asked a question. Based on the Post's rating from the Blackpool match. Good job he didn't read that match thread on Otib! He'd be comparing us all to large flightless birds. Seriously, he obviously doesn't particularly enjoy the meet press conference type events. That's OK, everyone's different: Danny Wilson and both Johnsons had an easy relationship with reporters, SOD and Cotterill didn't. Nonetheless it's part of the job for managers as well as players now. Might as well approach it with some grace. He did but he’s protecting the players there. Nothing wrong in that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said: He did but he’s protecting the players there. Nothing wrong in that . I don't think the Post was exactly harsh, judging by what was said by those who watched it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 17 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: I don't think the Post was exactly harsh, judging by what was said by those who watched it. I was there , it was a shocking performance . It’s like a dad protecting his kids though . Plus I’d be the same . It’s not a ex pro having a pop at your players . It’s some shite journalist who’s probably never kicked a ball in his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: I was there , it was a shocking performance . It’s like a dad protecting his kids though . Plus I’d be the same . It’s not a ex pro having a pop at your players . It’s some shite journalist who’s probably never kicked a ball in his life. Everyone's kicked a ball in their life and you don't need to be an ex-pro to be able to sniff out a performance that stinks to high heaven. Can you imagine what City fans would say if they read the Post and found a glowing report of that fiasco and high player ratings? Nige and I agree on one thing he always says: 'you defend together as a team and you attack together as a team'. Much analysis on Otib is given to a game of "who's at fault?" for goals conceded. Needless to say, most only focus on the last man, when inevitably multiple players are at fault. But the corollary of that, is when you have a terrible team performance, like Blackpool, everyone has to accept a share of the blame. Fail to attack as a team, fail to defend as a team. That might hurt some feelings, but the papers wouldn't be honest if they didn't tell it like it was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 Let's see nige be the big man and dig him out again for a no doubt low zac vyner mark, because that's what he will get and deserved to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 On 12/02/2022 at 07:29, Port Said Red said: It's interesting that his interviews with Twentyman are far less confrontational, I wonder whether that's purely down to the fact that GT has developed into a good interviewer or because he was "in the game"? The two things I would find most annoying about many of the journalists would be 1 They follow their own script without listening to the answers from the previous questions. E.g. Journo "Will you be unchanged on Sunday?" NP "We'd like to be, it will be down to Han's late fitness test". Journo "How is Han, will he be fit for Sunday?" The other thing is the closed questions as above, some criticise him for being spikey but to be honest, the fact he says so much to questions he could just say yes or no to should be in his favour. Geoff’s first interview with Nige was a bit tense, Nige was really spikey with him. I remember Geoff going “alright!!” At one point, could have ended in fisticuffs, which would been superb on the radio (bit of an exaggeration but would’ve been funny) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: Everyone's kicked a ball in their life and you don't need to be an ex-pro to be able to sniff out a performance that stinks to high heaven. Can you imagine what City fans would say if they read the Post and found a glowing report of that fiasco and high player ratings? Nige and I agree on one thing he always says: 'you defend together as a team and you attack together as a team'. Much analysis on Otib is given to a game of "who's at fault?" for goals conceded. Needless to say, most only focus on the last man, when inevitably multiple players are at fault. But the corollary of that, is when you have a terrible team performance, like Blackpool, everyone has to accept a share of the blame. Fail to attack as a team, fail to defend as a team. That might hurt some feelings, but the papers wouldn't be honest if they didn't tell it like it was. As I said he’s protecting his players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Sounds like today’s was a cracker as well, Nige saying our previous business model was “bonkers” should be well worth a look when it’s on YouTube. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 First big test for the Lansdown’s today. Can they cope with public criticism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bouncearoundtheground said: First big test for the Lansdown’s today. Can they cope with public criticism? What JL knows about football can be written on a Post-It note. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Supposed to have been out at 3pm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/nigel-pearson-jon-lansdown-bristol-6676062 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Northern Red said: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/nigel-pearson-jon-lansdown-bristol-6676062 I agree with Nigel. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, tin said: What JL knows about football can be written on a Post-It note. And his old man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Sounds like today’s was a cracker as well, Nige saying our previous business model was “bonkers” should be well worth a look when it’s on YouTube. Looks like those comments have been edited out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, tin said: What JL knows about football can be written on a Post-It note. JL is a complete noob. No, that’s not a typo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: JL is a complete noob. No, that’s not a typo. Newb* If I'm being pedantic. Actually, no that's being too kind, he's a noob. Edited February 17, 2022 by Marcus Aurelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said: Looks like those comments have been edited out Well let's copy Piercy's article then just to make sure his words are recorded. The bits in bold are the most critical. Also, can I just add that I think it is pretty shameful for the Club to cut those comments out of the released video on YouTube. Nigel Pearson disagrees with chairman Jon Lansdown’s assessment that Bristol City are under-performing this season, referencing the “bonkers” model the club previously lived by, and has been surprised at how chaotic life has been since taking charge a year ago. On Wednesday, during the announcement of Bristol Sport’s new sponsorship deal with Huboo, Lansdown stated that the Robins, who lie 17th in the Championship after 32 games, should be, “competitively better than we are doing at the moment in the league”. Although league position is the ultimate determiner of success for a football club and by extension the man at the helm, Pearson believes a more nuanced look needs to be made in analysing City’s progress on his watch. The 58-year-old, who took over on February 22 last year following Dean Holden’s dismissal, has overseen considerable change in the playing squad and coaching staff, amid severe financial restrictions, with the requirement of accelerating the development of academy players, which, by its very nature, will lead to inconsistencies in performance. He said it with a smile, but Pearson made a point of noting the chairman's comments in his press conference ahead of the visit of Middlesbrough on Saturday, even though he wasn’t directly asked about it. “I’ve been here a year, and I’ve aged probably five,” said Pearson, when asked how he reflects on his first year in charge. “It’s not an easy job, let’s put it like that, but I didn’t expect it to be. I probably didn’t expect it to be as chaotic as it is, or has been. There’s a lot to do. It would have been nice to have got more wins and certainly been more difficult to beat, that irritates me so much. That instead of losing games, we can scrap a draw out of it, but we’ve been unable to do that because at the moment we don’t have that balance right in the squad, or the players that I’ve had available. “I don’t overthink that. I heard a comment that Jon said in the media that we’re ‘under-performing’, and he’s the chairman so he’s allowed to have that opinion, but I don’t agree with him, personally, quite frankly. We haven’t won the number of games that we should have done. We haven’t got the number of points that we should have. But we’re not under-performing. In fact, a lot of our players are over-performing. As far as I’m concerned… progression and progress… I would love it to be about results, and ultimately people in my job lose their jobs because you don’t get enough wins, but this job is a bit more complex. So I think, yes, we’ve made really good progress in some areas and we’re unfortunately back-pedalling in other areas, and I think the club - and I’m not talking about the team now, I’m talking about the club - is still struggling to find the identity that it really wants. In my eyes, it’s always about: let’s produce a team which works hard and people hate playing against, but we have talent as well. That’s what I really want but we’re a long way away from that at the moment. But the group of people that we have now, compared to what it was a year ago - big difference, in a positive way. How people look at it? Like I say, he’s the chairman so he can say what he thinks, but I don’t agree with him.” Due to the changes, and a need for a different culture, this season has always been viewed as one of transition but what has proved to be an underlying obstacle has been City’s financial position. The club posted record losses of £38.4million for the financial year ending 2021, following the pandemic and the loss of gate revenue and the collapse of the transfer market, a process so vital to City’s business model under the Lansdowns. When City make their Profit & Sustainability submission to the EFL by the end of this month, they will include an estimate they’ve lost around £30m in transfer revenue, through no fault of their own, which would, of course, have helped them break even. That policy of “player trading” encouraged by the Lansdowns’ ownership, and driven by former CEO Mark Ashton, led to the considerable sales of Adam Webster, Lloyd Kelly, Bobby Reid and Josh Brownhill but also left Lee Johnson needing to regenerate his squad virtually every season, following the loss of key players. As a result, City posted profits for 2018/19 but constantly found the play-offs a glass ceiling they were unable to crack, all the while with the wage bill increasingly creeping past the £30m mark and representing more than 100 per cent of the club's overall turnover. Pearson took a pretty dim of view of that process and even referenced the Ashton Gate Eight, with the 40th anniversary to be marked on Saturday before and during the visit of Middlesbrough. "We've got ourselves into a mess, as a football club, by having a previous strategy to build a squad, and that is spending too much money and then having to sell to stay viable, which is bonkers," Pearson added. "Who does that?" "Now, hopefully we'll get to a point where our wage bill is manageable and we'll still create players who will be great for us and we will at some point (have to sell), and I'll never intend to stop a player's long-term ambitions to play in the Premier League, but our aim is still to get there. It might take longer than we hope but what's really important is you get the foundations right, because the foundations haven't been right. I'm not a control freak, I'm a part of the football club. Richard (Gould), who's now the CEO; we're trying to work very hard and collaborate so we can find the right way to go. We don't agree on everything, and I wouldn't want to agree on everything, but what we have to do is make sure that firstly, our immediate future is okay. And then outside of that, what is vital for us , as a football club is that we don't put our... we've talked about the Ashton Gate Eight and how the club were nearly into liquidation and we are very heavily in debt at the moment. We have to be very, very mindful of what our future looks like in terms of the progression and the steps that we take to make sure we can keep a successful team, and a successful club, because that's what we all want to do." Edited February 17, 2022 by ExiledAjax 8 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 He's spot on. Interesting to see if Jon responds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Interesting… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hankey Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Well this will piss off a lot of people who think the club would be nothing without the Lansdowns…. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 87 Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Fair to say Nige isn’t a ‘yes man’ … 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Well said Nigel. Hard to argue with anything he said there. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Totally agree with Nigel on this one. I don't think JLs comments were mentioned much on here but in my opinion the bloke is off his head if he thinks we are underperforming based on the players available 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Totally agree with Nigel on this one. I don't think JLs comments were mentioned much on here but in my opinion the bloke is off his head if he thinks we are underperforming based on the players available Proves Jon lansdown knows **** all about football. Edited February 17, 2022 by Street red 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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