CTIDhc Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 Would we have to pocket any of this to be even safer with FFP? Or can we go absolutely wild in the market now / summer? Sorry very out of the loop with regards to FFP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 Lets not forget people the reported 'Accepted' bid is from Talksport - They might have Simon Jordan as a commentator on there, but i dont believe they are the most reliable source out there. Plenty more to happen with this yet I believe 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, NcnsBcfc said: I meant with Weimann, if 2-3 weeks turns into 2-3 months. We've been there before. He’s back this weekend, I think it has been said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will b11 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, brad blit said: Lets not forget people the reported 'Accepted' bid is from Talksport - They might have Simon Jordan as a commentator on there, but i dont believe they are the most reliable source out there. Plenty more to happen with this yet I believe Yep, if I remember rightly talksport said that hughton was coming to us after we sacked Johnson and we all know what happened after that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonRobin21 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 Anyone reckon we could get a Joe Bryan situation? Imagine Semenyo leaving the Bournemouth medical to join Palace instead… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, Vidal said: Unfortunately with only 1.5 years on contract we have to accept this fee which is a fair one. Fair? Fair as in the way Bournemouth cheated their way to the PL and are now taking advantage of being a yo-yo club. Quite frankly **** what they think is fair, get as much money as possible, and even then ask for more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, CTIDhc said: Would we have to pocket any of this to be even safer with FFP? Or can we go absolutely wild in the market now / summer? Sorry very out of the loop with regards to FFP It's a bit unknown. The general consensus is that we're fine regardless, I have some doubts about the apparent methodology and whether bits of it would stand up to scrutiny. If we sell Semenyo we'll be fine come what may. It'll help come the summer without doubt, with Bentley off early too, Wells contract extension spreading the cost although I estimate a £19m FFP Loss last season but we're very much trending in the right direction. Mind you I am a bit bearish! Like I say the majority think we'll be absolutely fine based on acceptance of transfer add-backs and they could well be right, I'm a little on the cautious side. Edited January 26, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 Mate of mine lives in Bournemouth and he's said that their local radio are reporting that a deal is agreed between the two clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, Super said: I don't know the lad but for me Bournemouth or Palace seems like a No brainer. Having said that i know where i would rather live! Are Yatton in for him as well ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Fair? Fair as in the way Bournemouth cheated their way to the PL and are now taking advantage of being a yo-yo club. Quite frankly **** what they think is fair, get as much money as possible, and even then ask for more. Yep. Lead em up the garden path, then sell to Palace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said: Anyone reckon we could get a Joe Bryan situation? Imagine Semenyo leaving the Bournemouth medical to join Palace instead… I did think of this! But in the world of football, never rule it out! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 I know fans are expecting more money but can we really demand it. We are about to lose Massengo for free in the summer. We need to make sure we aren't making that same mistake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonRobin21 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 The big question now is… Does the club wait until giving this the final sign-off until we have a player ready to sign? A bit like what we saw with Bentley yesterday. And the Flint (out) and Webster (in) scenario. We can’t risk leaving ourselves short. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Dembele join on loan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 I think we might settle somewhere in the middle between £10m and £15m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, RedRoss said: I know fans are expecting more money but can we really demand it. We are about to lose Massengo for free in the summer. We need to make sure we aren't making that same mistake. We may get compensation as he is under 24? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said: Anyone reckon we could get a Joe Bryan situation? Imagine Semenyo leaving the Bournemouth medical to join Palace instead… He might just fancy a trip to the beach on his way to the big smoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 Could a best case end up being - he goes to Bournemouth, bangs in a few goals whilst they go down, then a bigger club pick him up this summer and we feast on the sell-on too? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: We may get compensation as he is under 24? Surely that wouldn't be anywhere near 9 million though. I'm not sure of the precedent to be honest. Also I'm sure it's much less if it's a foreign club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattredrobin Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: £9m plus add-ons sounds a bit derisory tbh. Of course those add-ons could be very easy to hit, devil is in the detail but the initial fee yes is a bit derisory. Could it be that Bournemouth are willing to pay £9m upfront and the rest in instalments ? I've heard some people say if it is £15m it would likely be paid over a period of time so £9m upfront right now doesn't seem to bad if the add on's are likely to come a later date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: Could a best case end up being - he goes to Bournemouth, bangs in a few goals whilst they go down, then a bigger club pick him up this summer and we feast on the sell-on too? Or, to answer my own question. Could that be a worst case? Say he goes to another club for £14m. We’d get at best 40% of profit, so circa £2.2m, but miss out on all these add on clauses for appearances and so on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, johnheadbcfc said: Value drops dramatically if he's here in the summer, plus the club needs the money (which is common knowledge to other clubs) My own opinion, but I disagree…it doesn’t necessarily drop, let alone dramatically. It would do if he was still here after the summer window closes, but not during it necessarily. The club always needs money, but we don’t currently need it for FFP, and come the summer we lose a big chunk of the cost base anyway. Just my view though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, TomF said: I'm sure we have someone lined up and it'll be a condition of the deal for AS. We'd be silly not as otherwise once we've sold him then we'll be held to ransom knowing the amount in the kitty etc. I think we are going to be held to ransom in any case, both by the selling club and the players agent. Even if this deal has not officially gone through other clubs will be 100% aware of it and will price their player accordingly. With an added premium as we are so late in the window. I think the best option financially would be a 6 month loan of a PL striker who is not currently getting a game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 The question no-one's asking, where would Antoine prefer to go? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, SecretSam said: The question no-one's asking, where would Antoine prefer to go? Crystal Palace 100% 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, Sturny said: Crystal Palace 100% Bournemuff's kit is nicer, tho' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 Must be weird for Antoine going from a championship team to a Premier League club, whose entire stadium you could fit into the Lansdown stand. Can't feel like much of an upgrade apart from the coin. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsey Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said: Anyone reckon we could get a Joe Bryan situation? Imagine Semenyo leaving the Bournemouth medical to join Palace instead… Whilst being chased down the motorway by Gary O'Neil... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, SecretSam said: The question no-one's asking, where would Antoine prefer to go? Viera or Gary ONeill ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunningdalered Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: £9m plus add-ons sounds a bit derisory tbh. Of course those add-ons could be very easy to hit, devil is in the detail but the initial fee yes is a bit derisory. Not sure about that. If you look at Semenyo's body of work to date, and his conversion rate in particular, there has to be quite a big leap of faith element to paying this sort of money for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: Defensively yes. But I feel a Massengo type conversation for the future there @Davefevs You’ve started to answer it yourself below 27 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: All good points @LondonBristolian I just feel from an attacking perspective we are a bit lop sided at the moment. With the vast majority of our attacks down the left hand side. Blackburn were well drilled on us last Sat, and when they shut down Pring. That showed up the lack of productivity from the right hand side, it left us a bit devoid until Bell came on and added a bit more impetus. Completely agree with both you @GrahamC over Tanner defensively. When Pring goes, he stays, and provides cover for Vyner & Atkinson. Makes a huge difference as people have said, playing a right back there, rather than someone out of position. I think it’s worth remembering who was playing left wing / forward for Blackburn on Saturday! And what that might’ve been meant tactically? I can’t comment on Swansea (a), but he was pretty decent with the ball v Brum too. Lets wait until he’s played another 4-6 games at RB in a back 4 and see how we view him then. 23 minutes ago, CTIDhc said: Would we have to pocket any of this to be even safer with FFP? Or can we go absolutely wild in the market now / summer? Sorry very out of the loop with regards to FFP Multiple ways to skin a cat (£9m)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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