2015 Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 At Blackpool - 2 awfully defended set pieces where Bentley was planted to the spot. Birmingham - 3 set pieces where again Bentley planted to the spot. Norwich - Not necessarily his fault but shocking marking from a corner which ended up being their winning goal. Not all down to Bentley but it is clear opponents have targeted set pieces to score against us as we are shocking at clearing our lines and mark 'space' instead of the opposition. Bentley is too rooted to the spot amongst all of this. It's dreadful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 TBF to the op the stadium announcer at Wigan did call him David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 What has caused this absolute meltdown hahaha. Everything okay at home mate? @Logical-City 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 12 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I always thought Maenpaa commanded his box better for example, we seemed more stable for the 2 draws just before Covid but then we concede too many chances in any event so the problems like higher up the pitch in some.ways. I loved Maenpaa. Definitely commanded his box well. A bit hard done by here, maybe there were underlying age/injury concerns, but I think LJ and Ashton liked spending Steve's money on shiny new things. The new young French keeper came out for crosses when I saw him play for the U21's so the signs are encouraging. They'll have to test him soon if DB is going to be gone at the end of the season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, 2015 said: At Blackpool - 2 awfully defended set pieces where Bentley was planted to the spot. Birmingham - 3 set pieces where again Bentley planted to the spot. Norwich - Not necessarily his fault but shocking marking from a corner which ended up being their winning goal. Not all down to Bentley but it is clear opponents have targeted set pieces to score against us as we are shocking at clearing our lines and mark 'space' instead of the opposition. Bentley is too rooted to the spot amongst all of this. It's dreadful Not going to disagree but the problem we have is that same weakness is one O'Leary had when he played last season too. Unless Bajic is able to get to speed very quickly, we don't have an obvious solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Not going to disagree but the problem we have is that same weakness is one O'Leary had when he played last season too. Unless Bajic is able to get to speed very quickly, we don't have an obvious solution. I think the set pieces could be defended much better. Too many players marking space and not opposition players. Vyner in particular has always been awful from defending set pieces as a defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 Some how i doubt very much thomas franks lies awake at night thinking i wish i never let db go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 Bents is a competent Championship keeper in all respects aside from dealing with crosses into the box. I don’t believe, tactically, we ask the keeper to stay on his line. We have a specialist goalkeeping coach. Bents, physically, is tall and strong enough to deal with high balls. Cross-dealing techniques and decision-making should be capable of being drilled into a professional unless he has - for whatever reason - a mental block. If that mental block can’t be addressed after all these years, regrettably, we need to move on, which is likely to happen anyhow at the end of the Season. What do we do in the meantime though? Down to the goalkeeping coach to advise Pearson whether we a viable alternative? If so, may be approaching the time we roll the dice. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logical-City Posted October 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, Bryans Left Peg said: What has caused this absolute meltdown hahaha. Everything okay at home mate? @Logical-City Just trying to be extreme to make people see my point of view mate I’m great thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 Lets hope we draw whitby town in the fa cup, so he can visit his spiritual home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 OP is a troll who has multiple accounts - don’t bite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said: OP is a troll who has multiple accounts - don’t bite Thought having multiple accounts wasn't allowed on here...? Hampshire red isn't one of the other accounts is it?! Edited October 9, 2022 by Akira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 Im not biting but he has been identfied as a really good manager as deemed not good enough. Lets be honest here franks is no mug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, glynriley said: There are times when all the world's asleep The questions run too deep For such a simple man Won't you please, please tell me what we've learned? I know it sounds absurd Please tell me who I am My guess is Red Eye. I really hope so, I loved his posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, Logical-City said: Just trying to be extreme to make people see my point of view mate I’m great thanks Why choose to be extreme….why not try harder to get your point across in a more balanced / articulate way? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Logical-City said: Bentley is GOD Premier League teams must be circling Jokers My word, how embarrassing. Bentley is a good keeper, and has saved us many points over the year's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logical-City Posted October 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Akira said: My word, how embarrassing. Bentley is a good keeper, and has saved us many points over the year's. Embarrassing is backing a keeper with the highest goals against column in the league this season and I’m pretty certain previous seasons but mock me instead of facing facts I’m a big boy End conclusion for me Bentley is a part of the problem not solution, good news is I think Pearson is on my side not yours My football knowledge is obviously superior to yours I don’t get blinded by random reflex save keepers seen them before Edited October 9, 2022 by Logical-City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 6 hours ago, RedM said: I'm now totally convinced this poster is on a wind up Admitted It in the ticket thread, don’t feed the troll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 6 hours ago, ralphindevon said: First player to score a goal at the new Wembley. As for Dan, not his greatest game yesterday. Really not sure what he was doing for the second, he seemed to just watch it go in. Didn’t look great for the third but I was stood a long way away so might be unfair. Only Nige and the coaches will know if O’Leary is is the better option right now, he’s dropped him before and it wouldn’t surprise me if he did it again at some point. Not true, the Italians scored first. First England player though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 13 hours ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: Fair point. Bring back Fielding. In fact, bring back Welch. Ronnie Sinclair... now you're talking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Superjack said: Ronnie Sinclair... now you're talking. Bring back John Shaw. And his hair-piece. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 Yes modest goalies mentioned above. Whose games arent based on showmanship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 Somebody told me on here last year. And i got to say ive never heard some rubbish.premiership clubs were intrested in dracula, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Numero Uno said: He was poor yesterday. Yes, we do have problems defensively but there is no way you can say that Bentley shouldn’t take a share of the responsibility for that, especially when you look at games like Wigan and yesterday. I can guarantee that Nige would have asked either him and/or Pat Mountain a few questions after 5pm yesterday. Sure he was poor yesterday, and yes he's not having his greatest ever season. I will happily point out that a save % of 63% is both quite low (although not the lowest) amongst his peers, and also very low compared to his own standards in previous seasons. However he's face a large number of good chances, so just as he should not be absolved for blame, he should also not carry all of it. @Logical-City wrote an OP that I took to suggest that Bentley was now so bad that he should be replaced. This poster has since called him "league 2 standard" and has suggested that Fielding is a better keeper thank Bentley. That's a load of crap. Bentley has faced 1,105 shots on target at Championship level. He's saved 763 of them. That's a 69% save rate over 7 seasons. He's saved 8 of 30 penalties faced in this division. A 27% penalty save rate. That's higher than average. He's not a perfect goalkeeper, but he's clearly good enough for the Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Logical-City said: Brilliant he must be your mate Never met him, TBH I can't ever remember seeing him play although probably have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_bristol Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 19 hours ago, Logical-City said: At what point do people start to recognise that Frankie Fielding was better ? Not sure that this is an apples to apples comparison. FF played 2 of his 6 seasons in the 3rd tier with us DB hasn’t played any at that level. Theres a tendency on this forum to compare the double winning squad with championship squads that we’ve had since. Not the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 Bentley is brilliant at 1 on 1s. A good shot stopper from close range. Seems a bit poorer from long range weirdly. Problem is the rest of his game. Kicking and mainly commanding his area. Doesn’t give the defence any confidence and with the joke defensive line up yesterday it’s made even worse. Id say he’s pretty average at this level because of the set pieces etc. would rather a Maenpaa type keeper right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 09/10/2022 at 14:34, Logical-City said: End conclusion for me Bentley is a part of the problem not solution While I don’t necessarily agree with everything said, I completely agree with this statement. The back 4/5/6 whatever formation we play needs ripping up and starting again. In fact given the choice at the moment I’d keep Rob Atkinson and replace the rest. Harsh on Naismith maybe but he’s not improved us defensively. It’s been diabolical at the back for years now, before Pearson, but I hoped as a former defender himself he might have been the man to sort it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 If Bentley is poor at coming for crosses and dominating the area, we need to ensure the defenders in front of him can do that for him. We need tall aggressive defenders who will put their heads where it hurts, block crosses, and leave Bents to his positives of shot stopping and one on one’s. We play Andy King at centre back. A 5’ 10” attacking midfielder. If @Logical-City truly believes DB is the cause of our defensive issues then they does not understand football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, grifty said: If Bentley is poor at coming for crosses and dominating the area, we need to ensure the defenders in front of him can do that for him. We need tall aggressive defenders who will put their heads where it hurts, block crosses, and leave Bents to his positives of shot stopping and one on one’s. We play Andy King at centre back. A 5’ 10” attacking midfielder. If @Logical-City truly believes DB is the cause of our defensive issues then they does not understand football. I agree Bentley is not there to do the centre halves jobs as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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