Super Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 So are we signing David Bentley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logical-City Posted October 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, grifty said: If Bentley is poor at coming for crosses and dominating the area, we need to ensure the defenders in front of him can do that for him. We need tall aggressive defenders who will put their heads where it hurts, block crosses, and leave Bents to his positives of shot stopping and one on one’s. We play Andy King at centre back. A 5’ 10” attacking midfielder. If @Logical-City truly believes DB is the cause of our defensive issues then they does not understand football. Are you kidding Bentley is the main cause for the last 3 years his positioning is put simply of a non league standard hopefully we see the new keeper soon In 3 seasons we have had different defensive line ups with one constant and for these 3 seasons we have conceded more goals than I have ever witnessed without relegation as the result Im over it and if you like a highlight reel player over consistent solid performances then it is you my friend that has the low football IQ Edited October 10, 2022 by Logical-City 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Logical-City said: Im over it and if you like a highlight reel player over consistent solid performances the it is you my friend that has the low football IQ I bet Grifty gets his match tickets without a breakdown , and knows our players names though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logical-City Posted October 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: I bet Grifty gets his match tickets without a breakdown , and knows our players names though Irrelevant but point taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 09/10/2022 at 10:01, Davefevs said: I see the second goal as being one he couldn’t do anything about. The first and third he is as culpable as one or two other players. First one, he back-pedals and stops. If he continues and tries to punch, there’s a good chance he puts Trusty off as a minimum. Third one, great delivery, but what is he doing, that’s his all-day long. There is no doubt in my mind: he is better than O’Leary he is capable of making fantastic saves, and does so regularly he is a totally capable Championship keeper for where we are currently but, he doesn’t command his area, and I think that creates a lack of confidence in those in-front of him. As for the OP, Frank Fielding suffered from exactly the same problems too, as does Max. For me the best keeper we’ve had since we’ve been back in the Champ was Maenpaa. For me he had the perfect all-round “game”. Was big too. He didn’t really need to make big saves, just calm and composed. It’s a shame Lucic didn’t put the effort in, because he was a great build too, good with both feet and had that bit of confidence too. If so the OP is insinuating Bents is my favourite player, I’m not sure what they’ve been drinking / smoking. I agree with @LondonBristolianthat there is a gap for a better keeper. I hope Bajic can fill that gap. Its a shame the best two keepers in Lg1 (Cooper and Walton) will be out of our budget range. Glad someone agrees with me, prone to panic - a defenders nightmare and no way should he be captain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) On 09/10/2022 at 13:49, RedRock said: Bents is a competent Championship keeper in all respects aside from dealing with crosses into the box. I don’t believe, tactically, we ask the keeper to stay on his line. We have a specialist goalkeeping coach. Bents, physically, is tall and strong enough to deal with high balls. Cross-dealing techniques and decision-making should be capable of being drilled into a professional unless he has - for whatever reason - a mental block. If that mental block can’t be addressed after all these years, regrettably, we need to move on, which is likely to happen anyhow at the end of the Season. What do we do in the meantime though? Down to the goalkeeping coach to advise Pearson whether we a viable alternative? If so, may be approaching the time we roll the dice. Citys keepers are consistently asked to stay. The keepers do not routinely ignore instruction. City get compact and generally drop when defending balls in obvious areas of the pitch. This means there is less space between the keeper and defenders for the keeper to control, and more traffic to get through for the keeper. The outcome has to be the keeper doesnt come for crosses consistently, and should not unless its in their zone.. The keeper coach is highly unlikely to advise Mr Pearson. The keeper coach is there to work on the intent of the Manager - They do what they are told. Edited October 11, 2022 by Cowshed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logical-City Posted October 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 “Although I'm not sure anybody saw that decision coming. It was a big call and there was a lot of pressure on the manager and goalkeeper to get that right last night particularly considering the recent run of results.” How satisfying thanks Nigel for this moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 You're doing this on purpose, aren't you? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Getting boring now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 He hasn't played professionally since 2013 so I think most people were pretty sure he wasn't going to feature for us last night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Out of curiosity Logical, what do you make of Dan Bentley and his form over recent years? Apologies if mentioned elsewhere, can't find anything. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Just now, BCFCGav said: Out of curiosity Logical, what do you make of Dan Bentley and his form over recent years? Apologies if mentioned elsewhere, can't find anything. I think Bentley has 2 weak points. a) coming off of his line to claim or punch crosses b) distribution. Clearly he far more comfortable to hit it long that play a shorter ball. I thought as per last season the defence looks more confident in front of Max. Having said that Bentley is a great shot stopper and great with one on ones. I think his dropping sent the right message to the team and Max should stay in until his form drops 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Just now, Clutton Caveman said: I think Bentley has 2 weak points. a) coming off of his line to claim or punch crosses b) distribution. Clearly he far more comfortable to hit it long that play a shorter ball. I thought as per last season the defence looks more confident in front of Max. Having said that Bentley is a great shot stopper and great with one on ones. I think his dropping sent the right message to the team and Max should stay in until his form drops We conceded 23 in the 9 games he was in goal last season. I don't think the defence looked confident at all. But yes, good save last night when we needed him & should remain in place until his form drops as you said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Good night to swap yer keeper, against a team with 6 goals scored in 13 games. Canny Nige/proper manager 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Good night to swap yer keeper, against a team with 6 goals scored in 13 games. Canny Nige/proper manager Scored 5 in their last 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: I think Bentley has 2 weak points. a) coming off of his line to claim or punch crosses b) distribution. Clearly he far more comfortable to hit it long that play a shorter ball. I thought as per last season the defence looks more confident in front of Max. Having said that Bentley is a great shot stopper and great with one on ones. I think his dropping sent the right message to the team and Max should stay in until his form drops No they didn't stop making shit up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: I think Bentley has 2 weak points. a) coming off of his line to claim or punch crosses b) distribution. Clearly he far more comfortable to hit it long that play a shorter ball. I thought as per last season the defence looks more confident in front of Max. Having said that Bentley is a great shot stopper and great with one on ones. I think his dropping sent the right message to the team and Max should stay in until his form drops Anyone remember Flapper Phillips? He had the same flaws. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: I think Bentley has 2 weak points. a) coming off of his line to claim or punch crosses b) distribution. Clearly he far more comfortable to hit it long that play a shorter ball. I thought as per last season the defence looks more confident in front of Max. Having said that Bentley is a great shot stopper and great with one on ones. I think his dropping sent the right message to the team and Max should stay in until his form drops Congratulations in stating the "Bleedin Obvious"....you are only the 535th person to have noticed Bentleys shortcomings....No offence intended 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 I'm more concerned that nobody has really mentioned the dropping of Nicky Wells last night.... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Logical-City said: “Although I'm not sure anybody saw that decision coming. It was a big call and there was a lot of pressure on the manager and goalkeeper to get that right last night particularly considering the recent run of results.” How satisfying thanks Nigel for this moment. More embarrassing shite. If you're going to try and stir shit, at least get our players name right ffs. Your opinion doesn't hold any weight or validity when you constantly spout nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, Robbored said: Anyone remember Flapper Phillips? He had the same flaws. A lot of similarities in fairness, but it may just be the mono-brow. Phillips: O'Leary: Lovechild: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 I think the only issue with playing Max is he's not seen as the Long Term answer. Just feels like we're waiting for him to make a mistake and then Bentley will be back in, it's like we're in a cycle and need to find a way to break out of it. The fact that Max was preferred over Bajic last night was interesting as I thought he was seen as a long term answer. (Apologies if injured again) Didn't feel, to me, like Bentley's form justified him being dropped so personally felt like it could have waited until Bajic was fully fit and firmly seen as Number 2, he could then have been picked if/when Bentley's form did drop and we might finally be out of the Bentley/O'Leary loop. Will be really interested to see who starts the Lincoln game in a few weeks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, BCFCGav said: Out of curiosity Logical, what do you make of Dan Bentley and his form over recent years? Apologies if mentioned elsewhere, can't find anything. David Brentley? Never the same since The Office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: No they didn't stop making shit up Wtf are you on about now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 48 minutes ago, Taz said: I'm more concerned that nobody has really mentioned the dropping of Nicky Wells last night.... And that nobody is talking about what a stormer Ron Atkinson had 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 52 minutes ago, hinsleburg said: I think the only issue with playing Max is he's not seen as the Long Term answer. Just feels like we're waiting for him to make a mistake and then Bentley will be back in, it's like we're in a cycle and need to find a way to break out of it. The fact that Max was preferred over Bajic last night was interesting as I thought he was seen as a long term answer. (Apologies if injured again) Didn't feel, to me, like Bentley's form justified him being dropped so personally felt like it could have waited until Bajic was fully fit and firmly seen as Number 2, he could then have been picked if/when Bentley's form did drop and we might finally be out of the Bentley/O'Leary loop. Will be really interested to see who starts the Lincoln game in a few weeks... That comes down to the players knowing where they stand re selection-policy and it’s consistency of being applied. If Bajic leap-frogs Max and Dan, Nige has 1) got to be truly confident he’s ready and 2) realise he’s breaking his own rules about how players are selected…and that creates problems. On FBC this morning we discussed Kalas. He is gonna have to oust Vyner (all things being equal), or Vyner play badly and lose the shirt. I really don’t expect Nige to just bring him straight back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, hinsleburg said: I think the only issue with playing Max is he's not seen as the Long Term answer. Just feels like we're waiting for him to make a mistake and then Bentley will be back in, it's like we're in a cycle and need to find a way to break out of it. The fact that Max was preferred over Bajic last night was interesting as I thought he was seen as a long term answer. (Apologies if injured again) Didn't feel, to me, like Bentley's form justified him being dropped so personally felt like it could have waited until Bajic was fully fit and firmly seen as Number 2, he could then have been picked if/when Bentley's form did drop and we might finally be out of the Bentley/O'Leary loop. Will be really interested to see who starts the Lincoln game in a few weeks... I find it interesting that Pearson said to Radio Bristol that all three goalkeepers are in serious contention for a starting spot. I wouldn't be that shocked if, by the spring, Bajic was the man between the sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I find it interesting that Pearson said to Radio Bristol that all three goalkeepers are in serious contention for a starting spot. I wouldn't be that shocked if, by the spring, Bajic was the man between the sticks. I said last night, I can see this being the beginning of the end for Bentley. Out of contract in the summer, high earner. I expect to see Max and Bajic fighting it out in the second half of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 08/10/2022 at 23:45, Logical-City said: At what point do people start to recognise that Frankie Fielding was better ? And that our next signing should be a keeper? Sorry he can make all the random world class saves he wants but give me a steady reliable safe hands keeper all day I didn't know David Bentley was still playing, he must be getting on a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Logical-City said: “Although I'm not sure anybody saw that decision coming. It was a big call and there was a lot of pressure on the manager and goalkeeper to get that right last night particularly considering the recent run of results.” How satisfying thanks Nigel for this moment. This has “gas” written all over it Edited October 13, 2022 by Charlie BCFC 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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