3 not offered deals..

[GrahamC]

According to NP in his interview with Radio Bristol, “6 or 7” are being offered new ones.

Can’t recall all of those who are out of contract but would have Bentley, Martin & Klose down as the most likely 3 not to be or possibly Kalas or HNM.

As for those being offered new ones, presumably O’Leary, Vyner, Semenyo & Dasilva all are, but struggling after that.

Edit- Semenyo confirmed as one who has had his contract extended.

Edited December 23, 2022 by GrahamC

[Red-Robbo]

7 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

According to NP in his interview with Radio Bristol, “6 or 7” are being offered new ones.

Can’t recall all of those who are out of contract but would have Bentley, Martin & Klose down as the most likely 3 not to be or possibly Kalas or HNM.

As for those being offered new ones, presumably O’Leary, Vyner, Semenyo & Dasilva all are, but struggling after that.

Edit- Semenyo confirmed as one who has had his contract extended.

 

Am I mad to think Bentley might be offered a new deal on a reduced salary, to give O'Leary some decent competition/injury cover?

As Kalas is widely reported as the highest-paid player, it wouldn't surprise me if it's him among those we're saying goodbye to, especially if NP has his eye on some likely replacement who'll be cheaper and without injury question marks. 

[James54De]

Klose and Martin are almost certainties, the last is likely one of Bentley or Kalas I’d imagine. 

[Lrrr]

I'd think Bentley would be offered something on reduced terms unless he says he wants out, I would have thought similar for Kalas unless his availability record is a reason this season for not offering him something.

[Unan]

Semenyo extended? Pre determined in contract? Offered an extension? Or actually extended?

[GrahamC]

Just seen the Post transcript Pearson confirms in it Kalas isn’t one of the three, because we can’t make a decision either way until he proves his fitness.

[cidered abroad]

28 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Am I mad to think Bentley might be offered a new deal on a reduced salary, to give O'Leary some decent competition/injury cover?

As Kalas is widely reported as the highest-paid player, it wouldn't surprise me if it's him among those we're saying goodbye to, especially if NP has his eye on some likely replacement who'll be cheaper and without injury question marks. 

No you won't be mad but don't forget we have Bajic who assumedly was recruited as a first team contender. Also a couple of really promising young keepers in the under 21's.

[Robbored]

7 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

Semenyo extended? Pre determined in contract? Offered an extension? Or actually extended?

There’s a clause in the AS contract stipulating that an added year is an option if the club want to retain him - obviously it’s a no brainier to activate it.

Edited December 23, 2022 by Robbored

[CodeRed]

Taylor Moore (the forgotten man) will be one, James Morton, and either Klose or Martin.

If it's only 3 presumably 1of those is being offered something......

[Red-Robbo]

3 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

No you won't be mad but don't forget we have Bajic who assumedly was recruited as a first team contender. Also a couple of really promising young keepers in the under 21's.

 

Yeah, only Nige and the coaching team will know how ready they might be for the big jump to competitive Championship football.

Even more than outfield players, it can be a big jump for a young keeper to make that transition. It can be a lonely place between the sticks: Nowhere to hide. 

 

[GrahamC]

4 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

Taylor Moore (the forgotten man) will be one, James Morton, and either Klose or Martin.

If it's only 3 presumably 1of those is being offered something......

Think it relates to conversations in the past few weeks, so I’d be absolutely amazed if Moore wasn’t told last summer when he went out on loan yet again that his time in BS3 was up, I could be wrong of course.

Likewise Morton when he failed to earn a contract at Notts County would surely already have known that he’s being released.

I think Klose & Martin are certs, but not sure beyond that.

[A Horse With No Name]

Rumours that Massengo already has a deal lined up in Germany

[Sleepy1968]

56 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

I'd think Bentley would be offered something on reduced terms unless he says he wants out, I would have thought similar for Kalas unless his availability record is a reason this season for not offering him something.

Surely there's no chance of Bentley being offered a new deal when Max has effectively usurped his position. Competition will come from the younger, cheaper keepers we've signed. Sometimes everyone needs to move on. This is that time.

[Midred]

11 minutes ago, CrackingCheeseGromit said:

Rumours that Massengo already has a deal lined up in Germany

Replacing Bellingham? 

[Lrrr]

2 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Surely there's no chance of Bentley being offered a new deal when Max has effectively usurped his position. Competition will come from the younger, cheaper keepers we've signed. Sometimes everyone needs to move on. This is that time.

I don't think it was expected that O'Leary would usurp Bentley though, I think last summer the expectation was O'Leary to be released end of the season and Bajic signed as back up/eventual replacement to Bentley.

[Porto Red]

52 minutes ago, Robbored said:

There’s a clause in the AS contract stipulating that an added year is an option if the club want to retain him - obviously it’s a no brainier to activate it.

And that's the edited version 

[petehinton]

I’d be very surprised if it’s not Martin, Bentley, Massengo. 
 

Massengo having his offer revoked after being sat on it too long? Martin maybe unhappy and wanting clarity, Bentley on big money and probably unhappy and wanting to go too. 
 

Im standing by my total guess that January is gonna be chaotic. I think giving Wells a new deal is a nod to committing to him over Semenyo in the 11 still, and probably having some contingency for Semenyo going sooner than later.
 

Pearson even alluded to wanting to speed up business in Jan, I don’t think he does that unless he’s very confident stuff is happening. He seems fed up (in a good way) and I think that’ll kickstart us into business as early as possible IMO

[Super]

Seems mad that Bentley can walk away without us getting any money for him.

[AshtonRobin21]

I think todays press conference was a subtle nudge to certain players agents to try and speed up a move for them in January.

I believe we have players lined up, ready to sign, but cannot complete the deals until outgoings are confirmed.

I also got the impression that we may be willing to terminate (‘mutually agree’), should it mean we can sign someone. Klose being the one, in this case.
 

Personally I believe the 3 are: 

- Bentley

- Martin 

- Klose (contract termination?)

I don’t think Massengo will be in this category, as we have known for some time that he wasn’t signing the deal. I think he already has something lined up for January.

[firstdivision]

Fans should watch the interview - mainly after the Radio Bristol interview bit. I accessed it through Twitter. It’s on YouTube.

NP was in a mood to engage. One of those days when you could ask him almost anything without him biting off the head of the person asking the question. Loads in there. 
Eg Atkinson back in contention for Boxing Day.  Rangers haven’t made a bid for Semenyo. Six or seven offered new deals. We clearly want to trade in January. Also addressed the growing fans’ discontent with him (although I would have liked to see Richard Forrester delve a bit more here because he was in the mood to answer.)

Anyway, 25 minutes of it. Have a go for yourselves. 

[A Horse With No Name]

11 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

I think todays press conference was a subtle nudge to certain players agents to try and speed up a move for them in January.

I believe we have players lined up, ready to sign, but cannot complete the deals until outgoings are confirmed.

I also got the impression that we may be willing to terminate (‘mutually agree’), should it mean we can sign someone. Klose being the one, in this case.
 

Personally I believe the 3 are: 

- Bentley

- Martin 

- Klose (contract termination?)

I don’t think Massengo will be in this category, as we have known for some time that he wasn’t signing the deal. I think he already has something lined up for January.

With his replacement already agreed.

[Robbored]

HNM has a contract offer on the table - it remains unsigned.

[Sturny]

I have no evidence on this, but I have the feeling Massengo wants to leave no matter what. Maybe an insane offer could turn his head. I reckon it’s obvious he’ll find a club abroad easily if released, and he knows it. 

[AshtonRobin21]

5 minutes ago, Robbored said:

HNM has a contract offer on the table - it remains unsigned.

 

1 minute ago, Sturny said:

I have no evidence on this, but I have the feeling Massengo wants to leave no matter what. Maybe an insane offer could turn his head. I reckon it’s obvious he’ll find a club abroad easily if released, and he knows it. 

Nige said today in his press conference that HNM has made the decision to “run the clock down”.

Also went on to say that upon arriving at the club, They highlighted HNM as someone who could be sold for a decent fee, but no offer was forthcoming.

Lots of insightful information in todays press conference. 

[maxjak]

Talk about Hyperbole?  Bristol Post states..................."Pearson drops Contracts Bombshell"    Well It seems to have created a very small crater?  

[BUTOR]

8 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

 

Nige said today in his press conference that HNM has made the decision to “run the clock down”.

Also went on to say that upon arriving at the club, They highlighted HNM as someone who could be sold for a decent fee, but no offer was forthcoming.

Lots of insightful information in todays press conference. 

James Piercy was excellent 

[Lanterne Rouge]

9 minutes ago, maxjak said:

Talk about Hyperbole?  Bristol Post states..................."Pearson drops Contracts Bombshell"    Well It seems to have created a very small crater?  

Bristol World the other day were saying that, because Cardiff had been hit with a transfer embargo, that meant a `transfer boost` for us for some inexplicable reason!

Edited December 23, 2022 by Lanterne Rouge

[David Brent]

It’s a bit of a shame that January will be busy. But it’s exciting too.

I hope Nigel’s interview helps people understand why we can‘t just go and sign players willy nilly.

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, David Brent said:

It’s a bit of a shame that January will be busy. But it’s exciting too.

I hope Nigel’s interview helps people understand why we can‘t just go and sign players willy nilly.

It won’t in some cases……

[Major Isewater]

1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

Nowhere to hide

Unless you’re very thin . 

[LondonBristolian]

We've 10 out of contract listed on transfermrkt

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bristol-city/vertragsende/verein/698

Of those, I'd guess the six or seven would definitely include Massengo, Semenyo, Vyner and O'Leary. Wells might be included too.

I'd imagine Dasilva and Wiles-Richards are most likely to be the other two.

We know Kalas is not one. If the six or seven does not include Wells then Martin seems more likely to me than Klose or Bentley. 

[pillred]

6 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

We've 10 out of contract listed on transfermrkt

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bristol-city/vertragsende/verein/698

Of those, I'd guess the six or seven would definitely include Massengo, Semenyo, Vyner and O'Leary. Wells might be included too.

I'd imagine Dasilva and Wiles-Richards are most likely to be the other two.

We know Kalas is not one. If the six or seven does not include Wells then Martin seems more likely to me than Klose or Bentley. 

Hasn't Wells just signed a two year deal?

[Sleepy1968]

1 hour ago, Lrrr said:

I don't think it was expected that O'Leary would usurp Bentley though, I think last summer the expectation was O'Leary to be released end of the season and Bajic signed as back up/eventual replacement to Bentley.

I agree, and I think they were expecting Bajic to be in the position Max is now.

[LondonBristolian]

4 minutes ago, pillred said:

Hasn't Wells just signed a two year deal?

Yes - I just meant that when Pearson said "we've offered six or seven players deals", he could or could not be including the deal offered to a player who has already signed it. 

[Robbored]

31 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

We've 10 out of contract listed on transfermrkt

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bristol-city/vertragsende/verein/698

Of those, I'd guess the six or seven would definitely include Massengo, Semenyo, Vyner and O'Leary. Wells might be included too.

I'd imagine Dasilva and Wiles-Richards are most likely to be the other two.

We know Kalas is not one. If the six or seven does not include Wells then Martin seems more likely to me than Klose or Bentley. 

Excellent presser from Nige - aided by some sensible questions from the journalists. He was as open as he could and explained his footballing philosophy per se, not including  his tactical or formational methods.

He really is a proper manager and in the last 30 years or so (or whenever the internet became readily available) I can’t recall any other manager coming close to Nige. There’s no hot air, waffle or laughing at his own jokes, just a professional doing a professional job.

[Davefevs]

2 hours ago, Lrrr said:

I'd think Bentley would be offered something on reduced terms unless he says he wants out, I would have thought similar for Kalas unless his availability record is a reason this season for not offering him something.

The rumour is that Bentley wants more than he’s currently on.  So he could fall into the group of 3 (Traitors) or 7 (Faithfuls) or could indeed be Claudia Winkelmann!  Seriously though he could be in the group who have been offered deals, but it’s way beneath what he wants.

1 hour ago, firstdivision said:

Fans should watch the interview - mainly after the Radio Bristol interview bit. I accessed it through Twitter. It’s on YouTube.

NP was in a mood to engage. One of those days when you could ask him almost anything without him biting off the head of the person asking the question. Loads in there. 
Eg Atkinson back in contention for Boxing Day.  Rangers haven’t made a bid for Semenyo. Six or seven offered new deals. We clearly want to trade in January. Also addressed the growing fans’ discontent with him (although I would have liked to see Richard Forrester delve a bit more here because he was in the mood to answer.)

Anyway, 25 minutes of it. Have a go for yourselves. 

It’s a very good watch / listen.  Excellent Qs for the journos, and Nige gave good responses.

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

HNM has a contract offer on the table - it remains unsigned.

It may have been taken off the table.  I don’t expect it has though, because it entitles us to compensation.

Here’s the list.  Having now listened to the interview…My best guess is Martin and Klose plus one more.  Kalas and Massengo mentioned separately, so think they are not in the 3.  Bentley for me.

Good to see a bit of clarity as we enter the January window.

Anyone know if Harvey Wiles-Richards is still out on loan?

[A Horse With No Name]

1 hour ago, David Brent said:

It’s a bit of a shame that January will be busy. But it’s exciting too.

I hope Nigel’s interview helps people understand why we can‘t just go and sign players willy nilly.

Is Willy Nilly a centre back? If so its worth the risk.

Edited December 23, 2022 by CrackingCheeseGromit

[Cannybluff]

 

 

[B-Rizzle]

11 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

The rumour is that Bentley wants more than he’s currently on.  So he could fall into the group of 3 (Traitors) or 7 (Faithfuls) or could indeed be Claudia Winkelmann!  Seriously though he could be in the group who have been offered deals, but it’s way beneath what he wants.

It’s a very good watch / listen.  Excellent Qs for the journos, and Nige gave good responses.

It may have been taken off the table.  I don’t expect it has though, because it entitles us to compensation.

Here’s the list.  Having now listened to the interview…My best guess is Martin and Klose plus one more.  Kalas and Massengo mentioned separately, so think they are not in the 3.  Bentley for me.

Good to see a bit of clarity as we enter the January window.

Anyone know if Harvey Wiles-Richards is still out on loan?

Do you think this partly explains Bentleys dropping from the team?

 

If, like the massengo situation, Bents has made it clear he won’t re-sign (or won’t unless it’s a pay increase) then NP might have chosen to leave him out if he’s not ‘committed’ to the long term?

[Ivorguy]

Worrying that NP says players offered new contracts are being offered less money.He said ‘That’s where we are’.  Thus it will mean less chances of recruiting if other Championship clubs interested in the same player.

what a condemnation of the way the club has been run.

[A Horse With No Name]

9 minutes ago, B-Rizzle said:

Do you think this partly explains Bentleys dropping from the team?

 

If, like the massengo situation, Bents has made it clear he won’t re-sign (or won’t unless it’s a pay increase) then NP might have chosen to leave him out if he’s not ‘committed’ to the long term?

But at what point does not playing your better players for whatever reason mean that we are playing Russian Roulette with relegation.

[Simon79]

4 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

Worrying that NP says players offered new contracts are being offered less money.He said ‘That’s where we are’.  Thus it will mean less chances of recruiting if other Championship clubs interested in the same player.

what a condemnation of the way the club has been run.

I think that is something most clubs will be doing following on from Covid & FFP. There is something of a re-evaluation going on for most clubs, certainly under the Prem. I think it’s been mentioned quite a few times that players will have to come to terms with this. Wells is a great example of this & im only guessing, but I would suggest that was a bigger drop than most will have to sacrifice. COYR 

[The Bard]

2 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Surely there's no chance of Bentley being offered a new deal when Max has effectively usurped his position. Competition will come from the younger, cheaper keepers we've signed. Sometimes everyone needs to move on. This is that time.

Bentley confirmed some time ago that his people were talking to the club.  That to me indicates that we have made an offer, but it obviously hasn't been accepted.  The 3 told look elsewhere are bound to be either nowhere near the team (Moore/Morton) or just getting too old (Klose / Martin).  

 

[The Bard]

18 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

Worrying that NP says players offered new contracts are being offered less money.He said ‘That’s where we are’.  Thus it will mean less chances of recruiting if other Championship clubs interested in the same player.

what a condemnation of the way the club has been run.

Not necessarily.  Every other club will be doing the same unless it's run by madmen.  

[The Bard]

14 minutes ago, CrackingCheeseGromit said:

But at what point does not playing your better players for whatever reason mean that we are playing Russian Roulette with relegation.

He was dropped after a calamitous performance and rightly so.  Max has played really well since.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

2 hours ago, Midred said:

Replacing Bellingham? 

I'd take that trade. 

[Davefevs]

14 minutes ago, The Bard said:

Not necessarily.  Every other club will be doing the same unless it's run by madmen.  

Yep, as per an earlier post, RG has said clubs across the champ are cutting back…he estimated on average by about 1/3rd.  We are no different to many other clubs.  A player on £14k p.w. (Average salary in champ pre-Covid) are now looking at £9/10k p.w.  Hence why we are still trying to pay competitive(ish) salaries but no fees.

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, LondonBristolian said:

We've 10 out of contract listed on transfermrkt

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bristol-city/vertragsende/verein/698

Of those, I'd guess the six or seven would definitely include Massengo, Semenyo, Vyner and O'Leary. Wells might be included too.

I'd imagine Dasilva and Wiles-Richards are most likely to be the other two.

We know Kalas is not one. If the six or seven does not include Wells then Martin seems more likely to me than Klose or Bentley. 

That list isn’t comprehensive as both Taylor Moore & Owura Edwards are OoC next summer too but presumably aren’t included here because they’re on loan. James Morton & James Taylor (on loan at Cheltenham but not featuring) are as well.

Technically Nathan Baker’s contract expires too but we already know what has happened there.

[petehinton]

HNM wanting to run the clock down despite having a contract offer sitting there for 18 months, aka run his contract down and leave for free…

How many players could get away with doing that yet still seemingly be loved by fans? Imagine if a Palmer/Moore type had done it… people would be baying for blood. 

[glynriley]

3 hours ago, CrackingCheeseGromit said:

Rumours that Massengo already has a deal lined up in Germany

Auf Wiedersehen, Pet

[LondonBristolian]

11 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

That list isn’t comprehensive as both Taylor Moore & Owura Edwards are OoC next summer too but presumably aren’t included here because they’re on loan. James Morton & James Taylor (on loan at Cheltenham but not featuring) are as well.

Technically Nathan Baker’s contract expires too but we already know what has happened there.

True but Moore and Morton surely aren’t being offered deals. I don’t know enough about Owura Edwards or James Taylor to be confident but I am certainly not convinced they will be part of the six or seven offered deals.

[GrahamC]

4 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

True but Moore and Morton surely aren’t being offered deals. I don’t know enough about Owura Edwards or James Taylor to be confident but I am certainly not convinced they will be part of the six or seven offered deals.

Morton I think has effectively left us already & agree re Moore, he hasn’t featured once since Pearson took over & has been out on loan twice since.

Edwards is playing regularly in the SPL, is still only 21 so I wouldn’t be too surprised if we had offered him further terms, Taylor isn’t making an impression at Cheltenham so you’d guess not.

[Lrrr]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

The rumour is that Bentley wants more than he’s currently on.  So he could fall into the group of 3 (Traitors) or 7 (Faithfuls) or could indeed be Claudia Winkelmann!  Seriously though he could be in the group who have been offered deals, but it’s way beneath what he wants.

Well that would definitely be one way to earn yourself a place on Pearson's shit list

[Silvio Dante]

22 minutes ago, petehinton said:

HNM wanting to run the clock down despite having a contract offer sitting there for 18 months, aka run his contract down and leave for free…

How many players could get away with doing that yet still seemingly be loved by fans? Imagine if a Palmer/Moore type had done it… people would be baying for blood. 

We’ve got history for it - Fam. He downed tools on so many occasions but hey, he’s from Knowle. 
 

For me, HNM has never shown enough consistently to demand a place in the side. Not to say he’s bad, but he’s not better as a 6 than James, an 8 than Williams or a 10 than Scott. On performance. Not hair. And more people should judge that way.

[sh1t_ref_again]

22 minutes ago, petehinton said:

HNM wanting to run the clock down despite having a contract offer sitting there for 18 months, aka run his contract down and leave for free…

How many players could get away with doing that yet still seemingly be loved by fans? Imagine if a Palmer/Moore type had done it… people would be baying for blood. 

Why should he accept and sign a new contract if he does not believe its good enough? Does that make him at fault, its been a difficult period with covid and contracts may now be changing but it's the players decision if he accepts the offer and the clubs decision on how much they offer or decide to sell when protecting an asset 

[Roe]

23 minutes ago, petehinton said:

HNM wanting to run the clock down despite having a contract offer sitting there for 18 months, aka run his contract down and leave for free…

How many players could get away with doing that yet still seemingly be loved by fans? Imagine if a Palmer/Moore type had done it… people would be baying for blood. 

I don't think Massengo really chose to run the clock down in this way as such so it's a bit harsh imo.

Its not like he's said he doesn't want to play and you can't force someone sign a contract. 

I understand Pearson's stance on it to a point but it also seems pretty silly in a lot of ways 

[Robbored]

1 hour ago, Ivorguy said:

Worrying that NP says players offered new contracts are being offered less money.He said ‘That’s where we are’.  Thus it will mean less chances of recruiting if other Championship clubs interested in the same player.

what a condemnation of the way the club has been run.

The blame of the financial mess the club got into  lies wholesale on the shoulders of Smarmy Ashton and his side kick Lee Johnson.
 

Nige inherited a shambles of a club and we’re still feeling the consequences of the damage caused by our previous CEO.

[CodeRed]

1 hour ago, CrackingCheeseGromit said:

Is Willy Nilly a centre back? If so its worth the risk.

Willy Nilly is a striker I believe, lots of penetration and box entries, scores nearly every time ,  can also play in behind in the hole so very versatile, gets his shot of too early sometimes but keeps going for 90 minutes .

 

[CodeRed]

11 minutes ago, Robbored said:

The blame of the financial mess the club got into  lies wholesale on the shoulders of Smarmy Ashton and his side kick Lee Johnson.
 

Nige inherited a shambles of a club and we’re still feeling the consequences of the damage caused by our previous CEO.

Ah! The man you called Mr Ch arisma and were looking up on Tinder !!!

Edited December 23, 2022 by CodeRed

[CiderCraig]

4 hours ago, Midred said:

Replacing Bellingham? 

Seems like a nailed on swap deal then  

[Robbored]

18 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

Ah! The man you called Mr Ch arisma and were looking up on Tinder !!!

What’s Tinder?……………..

[Major Isewater]

2 hours ago, Ivorguy said:

Worrying that NP says players offered new contracts are being offered less money.He said ‘That’s where we are’.  Thus it will mean less chances of recruiting if other Championship clubs interested in the same player.

what a condemnation of the way the club has been run.

99% of players are being offered less money as the gravy train has been derailed. No more 30,000 quid a week for average Championship players.They will have to accept that those days are gone. 

[The Bard]

34 minutes ago, Roe said:

I don't think Massengo really chose to run the clock down in this way as such so it's a bit harsh imo.

Its not like he's said he doesn't want to play and you can't force someone sign a contract. 

I understand Pearson's stance on it to a point but it also seems pretty silly in a lot of ways 

Massengo is one of the most confusing players we've ever had.  Clearly highly regarded.  Eye catching, but when you've watched him a few times you start to think 'what does he actually do.  What kind of midfielder is he?'.  Statistically poor, but we look lively when he's playing.  No goal threat. Little in terms of creativity. He sometimes plays as if he has no concept of the game except running around after the ball.

Given the above and his refusal to sign a contract, I think Nige has rightly decided he's down the pecking order.  He's not committed in the long term and you don't know what you're going to get from him.  Different to a player like Dasilva. If he has openly said he wouldn't sign a contract and was going to leave, you'd still know what you're going to get as a manager, so you'd be more inclined to play him.

[The Bard]

2 hours ago, B-Rizzle said:

Do you think this partly explains Bentleys dropping from the team?

 

If, like the massengo situation, Bents has made it clear he won’t re-sign (or won’t unless it’s a pay increase) then NP might have chosen to leave him out if he’s not ‘committed’ to the long term?

No.  He had an absolute howler after a few indifferent performances and was rightly dropped.

[cidered abroad]

2 hours ago, Ivorguy said:

Worrying that NP says players offered new contracts are being offered less money.He said ‘That’s where we are’.  Thus it will mean less chances of recruiting if other Championship clubs interested in the same player.

what a condemnation of the way the club has been run.

The reduction in wages for renewal contracts outside of the Premier League is due mainly to Covid and secondly in our case to previous stupidity by employees now departed. Other clubs have coped better than City maybe because they didn't start with a squad approaching fifty players with a majority such a poor standard.

All we can hope forl now is that we are able to recruit a couple of Championship quality for central back four and defensive midfield.

[pillred]

2 hours ago, Ivorguy said:

Worrying that NP says players offered new contracts are being offered less money.He said ‘That’s where we are’.  Thus it will mean less chances of recruiting if other Championship clubs interested in the same player.

what a condemnation of the way the club has been run.

I should imagine a lot of clubs are in the same boat (bar the parachute payment clubs) the land of milk and honey may be coming to an end, we are still an attractive club for a lot of potential recruits I mean look at what we can offer training ground, stadium, good support, and that's before you look around at the city itself.

[CodeRed]

31 minutes ago, Robbored said:

What’s Tinder?……………..

[Robbored]

Tinder is used to ignite a flammable substance - such as gunpowder. Hence the word tinderbox. I’d have thought you’d have known that CR.

[!james]

56 minutes ago, Robbored said:

What’s Tinder?……………..

It's the next level after you complete Grinder

[petehinton]

1 hour ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Why should he accept and sign a new contract if he does not believe its good enough? Does that make him at fault, its been a difficult period with covid and contracts may now be changing but it's the players decision if he accepts the offer and the clubs decision on how much they offer or decide to sell when protecting an asset 

 

1 hour ago, Roe said:

I don't think Massengo really chose to run the clock down in this way as such so it's a bit harsh imo.

Its not like he's said he doesn't want to play and you can't force someone sign a contract. 

I understand Pearson's stance on it to a point but it also seems pretty silly in a lot of ways 

FWIW on the grapevine, the contract he’s been offered is exactly the same as he’s on now, so a straight extension basically as the club don’t see how his importance to us has gone up since he joined. Could be BS rumour, but also isn’t exactly a wild one so maybe not that far off what could be true, and I’d totally back the club on that if it was the case 

Edited December 23, 2022 by petehinton