Selred Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 If Pearson was sacked tonight, who would you want to come in and replace him? Quote
weepywall Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 I would take Robins in a heartbeat but don't think it would happen. 7 Quote
Bar BS3 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Selred said: If Pearson was sacked tonight, who would you want to come in and replace him? Donald Duck 1 1 Quote
Ivorguy Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Just now, Bar BS3 said: Donald Duck What a quacking idea 4 Quote
Negan Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Think they need to go about it preparing for both outcomes. We need someone who can hopefully set us up to keep us in the league but can then also set about making us challenge again. Or it could be a case of the damage is done now and nobody can keep us up, in which case whoever is brought in needs to be able to win league 1 next season. Either way it can’t be a temporary fix. Who that man is…. Not a scooby doo. I know it’s not Pearson though. It’s definitely relegation with him. Quote
MC RISK77 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Just now, Selred said: Would Wilder come? No his stock still relatively high and we are a sinking ship imo 1 Quote
Selred Posted December 26, 2022 Author Posted December 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: No his stock still relatively high and we are a sinking ship imo Is it? Didn’t pull up trees with Boro. 1 Quote
Spike Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 I don't think any manager proven at this level that we would want would be interested. I think we need to stick it out as sacking him would only add to the financial issues which has hamstringed Pearson as it is. I can't think of any manager who would want to manage us after meeting with the board and learning of our financial situation and contract situation with so many key players. 2 Quote
petehinton Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. Edited December 26, 2022 by petehinton 9 3 Quote
ORANGE500 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Selred said: If Pearson was sacked tonight, who would you want to come in and replace him? I doubt whether Pearson will be sacked but I will be surprised if he doesn't resign in the next few weeks. No money to spend and has worked with this group which is a low end championship squad for some time and must conclude there's no more he can do to improve them. Quote
Roger Red Hat Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 SL was very keen on Stevie G ... 1 1 Quote
BCFCGav Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Would like Wilder but probably wouldn’t be interested in us sadly. Just now, Roger Red Hat said: SL was very keen on Stevie G ... Christ I remember that. And his stock has sunk. I wonder. Quote
joe jordans teeth Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Selred said: Would Wilder come? Don’t be silly,he had no money at Middlesbrough so he’s hardly going to say yeh Bristol City’s a good job 4 Quote
Unan Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, Selred said: Would Wilder come? Left Boro as they wouldn’t spend, so no 2 Quote
ollywhyte Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) Steven Schumacher *although he’s on a long contract and tip of the league below so won’t happen Edited December 26, 2022 by ollywhyte 1 Quote
ciderincornwall Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Michael Duff. Did a great job at Cheltenham, doing very well at Barnsley. 1 Quote
joe jordans teeth Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, petehinton said: If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. Do people want that style tho,Warnock was a no no for a lot of people and Wilder is a younger version Quote
Son of Fred Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, petehinton said: If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. Biggest of our troubles is that Lansdown doesn't have a scooby doo 3 6 Quote
GlastonburyRed Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, weepywall said: I would take Robins in a heartbeat but don't think it would happen. I always wonder about that, because Cov - off the pitch - are an absolute basket-case, and seem to lurch from one crisis to another. On league position alone, I'd say we had no chance of attracting him, but if Cov don't get up this season (and we don't drop down to Lg 1), I think there are far worse suggestions... Quote
bradshaw Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Luke Williams at Notts County would be my choice. 2 Quote
GrahamC Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, petehinton said: If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. This. If Pearson walks or is sacked it will be Jason Euell, because that’s what Lansdown does. Forget fantasy stuff like Wilder or Dyche. 6 Quote
Fordy62 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, weepywall said: I would take Robins in a heartbeat but don't think it would happen. 100% I’d gladly pay over the odds for Robins. I’m not sure I’d settle on anyone else. For romance sake I’d take Cotts. Quote
Selred Posted December 26, 2022 Author Posted December 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: Left Boro as they wouldn’t spend, so no Wasn’t he sacked? Quote
Barrs Court Red Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Son of Fred said: Biggest of our troubles is that Lansdown doesn't have a scooby doo Yeah was going to post something similar- I wouldnt imagine joining a club where the ownership is up in the air is an attractive feature either. Quote
Unan Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Just now, Selred said: Wasn’t he sacked? Yes he was, fell out with Boro I should’ve said* Quote
Numero Uno Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 We’ll get Curtis Fleming if he goes, that’s the truth of it. 2 1 Quote
BUTOR Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 So basically no one has a clue and the alternatives are worse or just as bad? Quote
2015 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, petehinton said: If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. Yeah seeing the names of Robins flying about is hilarious. Why would he leave Coventry for us We aren't that good and nor is our squad. I don't see much changing in the long run by sacking Pearson, it's just putting a plaster on a sinking ship 1 1 Quote
daored Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 If City sack Pearson then Ainsworth is the most realistic target , a guy who can motivate players to achieve higher than their abilities and would work to a budget. Talk of Wilder is completely unrealistic 1 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, petehinton said: If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. All counts towards FFP, so highly doubt it is especially possible. 1 Quote
johnheadbcfc Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Bouncearoundtheground said: So basically no one has a clue and the alternatives are worse or just as bad? Because no one is qualified to make that judgement. Does not take away the fact a change is needed Quote
Unan Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 2015 said: Yeah seeing the names of Robins flying about is hilarious. Why would he leave Coventry for us We aren't that good and nor is our squad. I don't see much changing in the long run by sacking Pearson, it's just putting a plaster on a sinking ship Because they have no ground and are facing a points deduction and possible expulsion from the league Edited December 26, 2022 by Marcus Aurelius Quote
2015 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Just now, Marcus Aurelius said: Because they have no ground and are having a points deduction and possible liquidation He wouldn't come here though, he would wait for better offers than Bristol City Quote
joe jordans teeth Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, 2015 said: Yeah seeing the names of Robins flying about is hilarious. Why would he leave Coventry for us We aren't that good and nor is our squad. I don't see much changing in the long run by sacking Pearson, it's just putting a plaster on a sinking ship Not only that,they would want 1-2 million for him 1 Quote
Supersonic Robin Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, petehinton said: If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. Interesting comment. I think it can be argued either way: For: We're a mess, especially in terms of finances and upper management. We're a club who generally underachieve, and who some managers may see as a bit of a boring club. I wouldn't be surprised if we're currently considered as a bit of a poisoned chalice by many managers. Against: We're probably seen as an established Championship club who (if they get their sh*t together) have a decent amount of resource and potential at this level. Managers may also feel that we're quite patient/forgiving/understanding compared to most clubs (not sure if it's a positive thing that we're seen that way though). Suppose we would have to hope that managers value the latter argument over the former. Quote
Northern Red Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 The levels of delusion persist, Wilder FFS. It'll be Euell. 3 1 Quote
GrahamC Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: We’ll get Curtis Fleming if he goes, that’s the truth of it. Think Fleming is Pearson’s mate & so will leave if he does. No indication he’s ever wanted to go into management. Euell left Charlton after being overlooked when Garner got the job, he’d definitely want it & based on SL’s track record (Millen, Holden) he’d get first go. 1 Quote
italian dave Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bouncearoundtheground said: So basically no one has a clue and the alternatives are worse or just as bad? Would you expect any different? Do you mean no-one has any ideas? Which is patently not the case - there are lots of suggestions. Or no-one knows who’s going to be appointed next? Which is pretty much a statement of the obvious - and no-one would expect otherwise. And if anyone anywhere was able to say for certain whether any new manager anywhere was going to be better or worse than the last, well, they’d be making a fortune from the bookies, that’s for sure. Quote
GrahamC Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Northern Red said: The levels of delusion persist, Wilder FFS. It'll be Euell. At least we’ve moved on from Dyche.. Said this before but when Holden left we approached 5 or 6 including Silva & Jokanovic. The only 2 who were interested were Pearson & a bloke who is now managing in the Conference. 1 Quote
glynriley Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, Selred said: If Pearson was sacked tonight, who would you want to come in and replace him? Roger Daltrey. Come on tell me who are you? Quote
Numero Uno Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Think Fleming is Pearson’s mate & so will leave if he does. No indication he’s ever wanted to go into management. Euell left Charlton after being overlooked when Garner got the job, he’d definitely want it & based on SL’s track record (Millen, Holden) he’d get first go. Decent shout. What we won’t be getting are a lot of the names being bandied about here. 2 Quote
Dolman_Stand Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: Interesting comment. I think it can be argued either way: For: We're a mess, especially in terms of finances and upper management. We're a club who generally underachieve, and who some managers may see as a bit of a boring club. I wouldn't be surprised if we're currently considered as a bit of a poisoned chalice by many managers. Against: We're probably seen as an established Championship club who (if they get their sh*t together) have a decent amount of resource and potential at this level. Managers may also feel that we're quite patient/forgiving/understanding compared to most clubs (not sure if it's a positive thing that we're seen that way though). Suppose we would have to hope that managers value the latter argument over the former. I think if you were out of work you would overlook the cons more, depends how desperate you were I suppose to get back into work. Quote
bexhill reds Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: SL was very keen on Stevie G ... God no, might have been a good player, but not a great manager, and not want we need Quote
italian dave Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Northern Red said: The levels of delusion persist, Wilder FFS. It'll be Euell. 5 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Think Fleming is Pearson’s mate & so will leave if he does. No indication he’s ever wanted to go into management. Euell left Charlton after being overlooked when Garner got the job, he’d definitely want it & based on SL’s track record (Millen, Holden) he’d get first go. Do you think that the powers that be (Lansdowns, Gould etc) have informal discussions and have a collective view on plan Bs, managerial succession etc? When it happens at BCFC there’s always an impression that being without a manager comes as a complete surprise and we only start thinking about it when the last one has gone. At other clubs there’s more often the impression that the club has thought about it and has a few options in mind and very often someone ready to come in. Maybe that’s unfair, I don’t know. But I’d like to think we’ve been scouting around other options - not just here but abroad too - and have some ideas in. Ind, maybe even lined up. If there’s a change then I’d have thought that a high priority would be a continuation of the strategy - financial, culture, recruitment etc - that Pearson has introduced. I’ve always thought that’s what SL struggles with most. He either flips from one managerial ethos and style to the polar opposite, or he tries his hardest to ensure a continuation. But in the latter case he has seemed incapable of thinking beyond personnel already with the club - hence the Millen, Holden point you make Graham (and add Tinnnion). I wonder if this time round he might recognise that you could go externally but still find someone who’ll understand and commit to a similar approach? 1 Quote
xerox6060 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, Northern Red said: The levels of delusion persist, Wilder FFS. It'll be Euell. Agreed if Pearson steps down or is sacked it will be Euell as he 'knows the squad' .. 1 Quote
Lack of Action Man Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Gareth Ainsworth for me. ASAP. 1 Quote
GrahamC Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, italian dave said: Do you think that the powers that be (Lansdowns, Gould etc) have informal discussions and have a collective view on plan Bs, managerial succession etc? When it happens at BCFC there’s always an impression that being without a manager comes as a complete surprise and we only start thinking about it when the last one has gone. At other clubs there’s more often the impression that the club has thought about it and has a few options in mind and very often someone ready to come in. Maybe that’s unfair, I don’t know. But I’d like to think we’ve been scouting around other options - not just here but abroad too - and have some ideas in. Ind, maybe even lined up. If there’s a change then I’d have thought that a high priority would be a continuation of the strategy - financial, culture, recruitment etc - that Pearson has introduced. I’ve always thought that’s what SL struggles with most. He either flips from one managerial ethos and style to the polar opposite, or he tries his hardest to ensure a continuation. But in the latter case he has seemed incapable of thinking beyond personnel already with the club - hence the Millen, Holden point you make Graham (and add Tinnnion). I wonder if this time round he might recognise that you could go externally but still find someone who’ll understand and commit to a similar approach? Really good post, sadly I think the answer is “no” & the shambles that resulted in Holden being appointed after 6 weeks of farting around (to then appoint the previous bloke’s assistant) sort of proves this. Forgot Tinnion, that was another shocker. Prior to this Lumsden & Fawthrop though before SL’s time as head honcho but more internal appointment nonsense. Quote
Barrs Court Red Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 1 minute ago, GrahamC said: Really good post, sadly I think the answer is “no” & the shambles that resulted in Holden being appointed after 6 weeks of farting around (to then appoint the previous bloke’s assistant) sort of proves this. Forgot Tinnion, that was another shocker. Prior to this Lumsden & Fawthrop though before SL’s time as head honcho but more internal appointment nonsense. RE Fawthrop, didn’t Steve go crying to the Evening Post, as he disagreed with his appointment? “No other club in the 92 would have made this appointment” or something of that ilk. Quote
Maltshoveller Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 i hope we stick with Pearson With the FFP stuff i couldnt see us going for a manager under contract (Ainsworth 2025) for example so god (and SL)only knows who we would end up with Left field for me Big Duncan 2 Quote
GrahamC Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Barrs Court Red said: RE Fawthrop, didn’t Steve go crying to the Evening Post, as he disagreed with his appointment? “No other club in the 92 would have made this appointment” or something of that ilk. No, that was Scott Davidson, who might also have had something to do with The Post finding out about his financial issues that resulted in his departure.. Quote
gary s Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 After weeks of interviews and due diligence we will promote from within Red and Robyn Quote
Barrs Court Red Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Just now, GrahamC said: No, that was Scott Davidson, who might also have had something to do with The Post finding out about his financial issues that resulted in his departure.. Yes of course it was! Shame really, seemed to be a logical move at the time. Quote
E.J.Thribb Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Rob Edwards (post Watford) might be a shout…. (If he could rescue us is another matter ) Quote
glynriley Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Steve Lansdown goes to bed with this in his head… Quote
Dolman_Stand Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, xerox6060 said: Agreed if Pearson steps down or is sacked it will be Euell as he 'knows the squad' .. Not a chance it would be Euell, after the Holden fiasco and level of criticism last time he promoted from within I can't see SL risking it. Quote
johnheadbcfc Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Just now, Dolman_Stand said: Not a chance it would be Euell, after the Holden fiasco and level of criticism last time he promoted from within I can't see SL risking it. As long as the housing development happens it won't matter 2 Quote
MelksRed Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Roger Red Hat said: SL was very keen on Stevie G ... How keen was he on Stevie G's Price Tag? Quote
glynriley Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, MelksRed said: How keen was he on Stevie G's Price Tag? Quote
Davefevs Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 2 hours ago, petehinton said: If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: This. If Pearson walks or is sacked it will be Jason Euell, because that’s what Lansdown does. Forget fantasy stuff like Wilder or Dyche. The only way you get a Wilder is to throw money at him, and that means selling Alex Scott. Because 1) we can’t afford Wilder and 2) Wilder will want new signings. We can’t afford 1) and 2) without selling Scott. Semenyo and Conway won’t fetch enough at this point to make a big enough squad change. It’s still a big, effing mess. Others who like Robins, me too, but he isn’t available, and I’m not sure he’d jump ship at this point, even with Cov’s situation. 2 Quote
And Its Smith Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The only way you get a Wilder is to throw money at him, and that means selling Alex Scott. Because 1) we can’t afford Wilder and 2) Wilder will want new signings. We can’t afford 1) and 2) without selling Scott. Semenyo and Conway won’t fetch enough at this point to make a big enough squad change. It’s still a big, effing mess. Others who like Robins, me too, but he isn’t available, and I’m not sure he’d jump ship at this point, even with Cov’s situation. I’d like a manager who isn’t cocky enough to say fans booing him doesn’t bother him as he’s been booed in bigger stadiums than Ashton Gate. We can afford a new manager more than we can afford to go down. I’ve not been Pearson Out yet but very close now after the last two games and what he has said today 2 1 1 Quote
redkev Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 There’s a bloke called Barton not doing a bad job up the road who might be worth a punt 1 1 Quote
Davefevs Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: I’d like a manager who isn’t cocky enough to say fans booing him doesn’t bother him as he’s been booed in bigger stadiums than Ashton Gate. We can afford a new manager more than we can afford to go down. I’ve not been Pearson Out yet but very close now after the last two games and what he has said today The emotions of a post-March interview??? Ive just listened to the club interview and the bbc twitter (2:19 version). What’s he said that’s so appalling? 1 Quote
And Its Smith Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The emotions of a post-March interview??? Ive just listened to the club interview and the bbc twitter (2:19 version). What’s he said that’s so appalling? There’s another thread about it Quote
AshtonRobin21 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 I would look to Ainsworth. Motivator, no budget, strong defence, players would run through walls for him. Its where we are at. Forget Wilder, the guy fell out with Boro owners because he demanded they spend £10m on Gyokeres. 3 Quote
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