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Think they need to go about it preparing for both outcomes. We need someone who can hopefully set us up to keep us in the league but can then also set about making us challenge again. Or it could be a case of the damage is done now and nobody can keep us up, in which case whoever is brought in needs to be able to win league 1 next season. Either way it can’t be a temporary fix. Who that man is…. Not a scooby doo. I know it’s not Pearson though. It’s definitely relegation with him. 

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4 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said:

No his stock still relatively high and we are a sinking ship imo

Is it? Didn’t pull up trees with Boro.

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I don't think any manager proven at this level that we would want would be interested. I think we need to stick it out as sacking him would only add to the financial issues which has hamstringed Pearson as it is. 

I can't think of any manager who would want to manage us after meeting with the board and learning of our financial situation and contract situation with so many key players. 

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If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. 
 

I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. 

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7 minutes ago, Selred said:

If Pearson was sacked tonight, who would you want to come in and replace him?

I doubt whether Pearson will be sacked but I will be surprised if he doesn't resign in the next few weeks. No money to spend and has worked with this group which is a low end championship squad for some time and must conclude there's no more he  can do to improve them. 

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Would like Wilder but probably wouldn’t be interested in us sadly. 

Just now, Roger Red Hat said:

SL was very keen on Stevie G  ...

Christ I remember that. And his stock has sunk. I wonder.

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3 minutes ago, petehinton said:

If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. 
 

I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. 

Do people want that style tho,Warnock was a no no for a lot of people and Wilder is a younger version 

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3 minutes ago, petehinton said:

If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. 
 

I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. 

Biggest of our troubles is that Lansdown doesn't have a scooby doo 

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15 minutes ago, weepywall said:

I would take Robins in a heartbeat but don't think it would happen.

I always wonder about that, because Cov - off the pitch - are an absolute basket-case, and seem to lurch from one crisis to another. On league position alone, I'd say we had no chance of attracting him, but if Cov don't get up this season (and we don't drop down to Lg 1), I think there are far worse suggestions...

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8 minutes ago, petehinton said:

If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. 
 

I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. 

This.

If Pearson walks or is sacked it will be Jason Euell, because that’s what Lansdown does.

Forget fantasy stuff like Wilder or Dyche.

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19 minutes ago, weepywall said:

I would take Robins in a heartbeat but don't think it would happen.

100% I’d gladly pay over the odds for Robins. I’m not sure I’d settle on anyone else. 

For romance sake I’d take Cotts. 

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3 minutes ago, Son of Fred said:

Biggest of our troubles is that Lansdown doesn't have a scooby doo 

Yeah was going to post something similar-  I wouldnt imagine joining a club where the ownership is up in the air is an attractive feature either. 

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15 minutes ago, petehinton said:

If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. 
 

I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. 

Yeah seeing the names of Robins flying about is hilarious. Why would he leave Coventry for us ?

We aren't that good and nor is our squad. I don't see much changing in the long run by sacking Pearson, it's just putting a plaster on a sinking ship

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If City sack Pearson then Ainsworth is the most realistic target , a guy who can motivate players to achieve higher than their abilities and would work to a budget. Talk of Wilder is completely unrealistic 

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16 minutes ago, petehinton said:

If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing.

All counts towards FFP, so highly doubt it is especially possible.

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1 minute ago, Bouncearoundtheground said:

So basically no one has a clue and the alternatives are worse or just as bad? 

Because no one is qualified to make that judgement. Does not take away the fact a change is needed

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2 minutes ago, 2015 said:

Yeah seeing the names of Robins flying about is hilarious. Why would he leave Coventry for us ?

We aren't that good and nor is our squad. I don't see much changing in the long run by sacking Pearson, it's just putting a plaster on a sinking ship

Because they have no ground and are facing a points deduction and possible expulsion from the league

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Just now, Marcus Aurelius said:

Because they have no ground and are having a points deduction and possible liquidation 

He wouldn't come here though, he would wait for better offers than Bristol City

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2 minutes ago, 2015 said:

Yeah seeing the names of Robins flying about is hilarious. Why would he leave Coventry for us ?

We aren't that good and nor is our squad. I don't see much changing in the long run by sacking Pearson, it's just putting a plaster on a sinking ship

Not only that,they would want 1-2 million for him

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12 minutes ago, petehinton said:

If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. 
 

I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. 

Interesting comment. I think it can be argued either way:

For: We're a mess, especially in terms of finances and upper management. We're a club who generally underachieve, and who some managers may see as a bit of a boring club. I wouldn't be surprised if we're currently considered as a bit of a poisoned chalice by many managers. 

Against: We're probably seen as an established Championship club who (if they get their sh*t together) have a decent amount of resource and potential at this level. Managers may also feel that we're quite patient/forgiving/understanding compared to most clubs (not sure if it's a positive thing that we're seen that way though).

Suppose we would have to hope that managers value the latter argument over the former.

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13 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

We’ll get Curtis Fleming if he goes, that’s the truth of it.

Think Fleming is Pearson’s mate & so will leave if he does. No indication he’s ever wanted to go into management.

Euell left Charlton after being overlooked when Garner got the job, he’d definitely want it & based on SL’s track record (Millen, Holden) he’d get first go.

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11 minutes ago, Bouncearoundtheground said:

So basically no one has a clue and the alternatives are worse or just as bad? 

Would you expect any different?

Do you mean no-one has any ideas? Which is patently not the case - there are lots of suggestions.

Or no-one knows who’s going to be appointed next? Which is pretty much a statement of the obvious - and no-one would expect otherwise. 

And if anyone anywhere was able to say for certain whether any new manager anywhere was going to be better or worse than the last, well, they’d be making a fortune from the bookies, that’s for sure. 

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1 minute ago, Northern Red said:

The levels of delusion persist, Wilder FFS.

It'll be Euell.

At least we’ve moved on from Dyche..

Said this before but when Holden left we approached 5 or 6 including Silva & Jokanovic.

The only 2 who were interested were Pearson & a bloke who is now managing in the Conference.

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44 minutes ago, Selred said:

If Pearson was sacked tonight, who would you want to come in and replace him?

Roger Daltrey.  
Come on tell me who are you? 

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2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Think Fleming is Pearson’s mate & so will leave if he does. No indication he’s ever wanted to go into management.

Euell left Charlton after being overlooked when Garner got the job, he’d definitely want it & based on SL’s track record (Millen, Holden) he’d get first go.

Decent shout. What we won’t be getting are a lot of the names being bandied about here.

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15 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Interesting comment. I think it can be argued either way:

For: We're a mess, especially in terms of finances and upper management. We're a club who generally underachieve, and who some managers may see as a bit of a boring club. I wouldn't be surprised if we're currently considered as a bit of a poisoned chalice by many managers. 

Against: We're probably seen as an established Championship club who (if they get their sh*t together) have a decent amount of resource and potential at this level. Managers may also feel that we're quite patient/forgiving/understanding compared to most clubs (not sure if it's a positive thing that we're seen that way though).

Suppose we would have to hope that managers value the latter argument over the former.

I think if you were out of work you would overlook the cons more, depends how desperate you were I suppose to get back into work.

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5 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

The levels of delusion persist, Wilder FFS.

It'll be Euell.

 

5 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Think Fleming is Pearson’s mate & so will leave if he does. No indication he’s ever wanted to go into management.

Euell left Charlton after being overlooked when Garner got the job, he’d definitely want it & based on SL’s track record (Millen, Holden) he’d get first go.

Do you think that the powers that be (Lansdowns, Gould etc) have informal discussions and have a collective view on plan Bs, managerial succession etc? 

When it happens at BCFC there’s always an impression that being without a manager comes as a complete surprise and we only start thinking about it when the last one has gone.

At other clubs there’s more often the impression that the club has thought about it and has a few options in mind and very often someone ready to come in.

Maybe that’s unfair, I don’t know. But I’d like to think we’ve been scouting around other options - not just here but abroad too - and have some ideas in. Ind, maybe even lined up.

If there’s a change then I’d have thought that a high priority would be a continuation of the strategy - financial, culture, recruitment etc - that Pearson has introduced. I’ve always thought that’s what SL struggles with most. He either flips from one managerial ethos and style to the polar opposite, or he tries his hardest to ensure a continuation. But in the latter case he has seemed incapable of thinking beyond personnel already with the club - hence the Millen, Holden point you make Graham (and add Tinnnion). I wonder if this time round he might recognise that you could go externally but still find someone who’ll understand and commit to a similar approach? 

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4 minutes ago, italian dave said:

 

Do you think that the powers that be (Lansdowns, Gould etc) have informal discussions and have a collective view on plan Bs, managerial succession etc? 

When it happens at BCFC there’s always an impression that being without a manager comes as a complete surprise and we only start thinking about it when the last one has gone.

At other clubs there’s more often the impression that the club has thought about it and has a few options in mind and very often someone ready to come in.

Maybe that’s unfair, I don’t know. But I’d like to think we’ve been scouting around other options - not just here but abroad too - and have some ideas in. Ind, maybe even lined up.

If there’s a change then I’d have thought that a high priority would be a continuation of the strategy - financial, culture, recruitment etc - that Pearson has introduced. I’ve always thought that’s what SL struggles with most. He either flips from one managerial ethos and style to the polar opposite, or he tries his hardest to ensure a continuation. But in the latter case he has seemed incapable of thinking beyond personnel already with the club - hence the Millen, Holden point you make Graham (and add Tinnnion). I wonder if this time round he might recognise that you could go externally but still find someone who’ll understand and commit to a similar approach? 

Really good post, sadly I think the answer is “no” & the shambles that resulted in Holden being appointed after 6 weeks of farting around (to then appoint the previous bloke’s assistant) sort of proves this.

Forgot Tinnion, that was another shocker.

Prior to this Lumsden & Fawthrop though before SL’s time as head honcho but more internal appointment nonsense.

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1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

Really good post, sadly I think the answer is “no” & the shambles that resulted in Holden being appointed after 6 weeks of farting around (to then appoint the previous bloke’s assistant) sort of proves this.

Forgot Tinnion, that was another shocker.

Prior to this Lumsden & Fawthrop though before SL’s time as head honcho but more internal appointment nonsense.

RE Fawthrop, didn’t Steve go crying to the Evening Post, as he disagreed with his appointment?  “No other club in the 92 would have made this appointment” or something of that ilk. 

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i hope we stick with Pearson

With the FFP stuff i couldnt see us going for a manager under contract (Ainsworth 2025) for example

so god (and SL)only knows who we would end up with

 Left field for me Big Duncan 

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1 minute ago, Barrs Court Red said:

RE Fawthrop, didn’t Steve go crying to the Evening Post, as he disagreed with his appointment?  “No other club in the 92 would have made this appointment” or something of that ilk. 

 No, that was Scott Davidson, who might also have had something to do with The Post finding out about his financial issues that resulted in his departure..

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Just now, GrahamC said:

 No, that was Scott Davidson, who might also have had something to do with The Post finding out about his financial issues that resulted in his departure..

Yes of course it was!  Shame really, seemed to be a logical move at the time. 

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15 minutes ago, xerox6060 said:

Agreed if Pearson steps down or is sacked it will be Euell as he 'knows the squad' ..

Not a chance it would be Euell, after the Holden fiasco and level of criticism last time he promoted from within I can't see SL risking it.

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Just now, Dolman_Stand said:

Not a chance it would be Euell, after the Holden fiasco and level of criticism last time he promoted from within I can't see SL risking it.

As long as the housing development happens it won't matter ?

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2 hours ago, petehinton said:

If people want him sacked, Lansdown has to go throw money at wilder until he says yes. Otherwise it’s not worth Doing. 
 

I think fans see us far more attractive as a club than we really are tbh. 

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2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

This.

If Pearson walks or is sacked it will be Jason Euell, because that’s what Lansdown does.

Forget fantasy stuff like Wilder or Dyche.

The only way you get a Wilder is to throw money at him, and that means selling Alex Scott.  Because 1) we can’t afford Wilder and 2) Wilder will want new signings.  We can’t afford 1) and 2) without selling Scott.  Semenyo and Conway won’t fetch enough at this point to make a big enough squad change.

It’s still a big, effing mess.

Others who like Robins, me too, but he isn’t available, and I’m not sure he’d jump ship at this point, even with Cov’s situation.

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3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

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The only way you get a Wilder is to throw money at him, and that means selling Alex Scott.  Because 1) we can’t afford Wilder and 2) Wilder will want new signings.  We can’t afford 1) and 2) without selling Scott.  Semenyo and Conway won’t fetch enough at this point to make a big enough squad change.

It’s still a big, effing mess.

Others who like Robins, me too, but he isn’t available, and I’m not sure he’d jump ship at this point, even with Cov’s situation.

I’d like a manager who isn’t cocky enough to say fans booing him doesn’t bother him as he’s been booed in bigger stadiums than Ashton Gate. We can afford a new manager more than we can afford to go down.  I’ve not been Pearson Out yet but very close now after the last two games and what he has said today 

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1 minute ago, And Its Smith said:

I’d like a manager who isn’t cocky enough to say fans booing him doesn’t bother him as he’s been booed in bigger stadiums than Ashton Gate. We can afford a new manager more than we can afford to go down.  I’ve not been Pearson Out yet but very close now after the last two games and what he has said today 

The emotions of a post-March interview???

Ive just listened to the club interview and the bbc twitter (2:19 version).  What’s he said that’s so appalling?

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7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

The emotions of a post-March interview???

Ive just listened to the club interview and the bbc twitter (2:19 version).  What’s he said that’s so appalling?

There’s another thread about it 

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I would look to Ainsworth.

Motivator, no budget, strong defence, players would run through walls for him.

Its where we are at.
 

Forget Wilder, the guy fell out with Boro owners because he demanded they spend £10m on Gyokeres. 

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