Finley_Smith10 Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: You’ll know by now I hate “best elevens”, and hate formations being the be-all and end-all, but breaking my own rules: O’Leary Tanner Dickie Vyner Pring James McCrorie Bryan Weimann Conway Wells Really it’s 4 defenders, 3 midfielders and 3 forwards. Can you remember when Williams played “front sweeper” but we still played WSM? I think Nige ideally wants to play two forwards with one in behind. The full-backs can provide the width. Gotta try find a way to play mehmeti imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 I wanna know where Alex Scott is, in all these line-ups? At this precise moment, he's still a City player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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George Rs Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Jimbo123 said: Hate the idea of playing Mehmeti as a 10. He's the one player we have other than Scott (who probably won't be here) that's capable of being direct and taking on a man, he needs to stay out wide. We need a new 10. Twine would be my somewhat ambitious suggestion, if not then I'd be very content with Azaz. Don’t necessarily mind giving mehmeti time in the 10. With a pre season behind him I think he could become magic for us. But do agree we need a new attacking midfielder if Scott goes. Someone with that “maverick” type that Pearson goes on about. Very hard to replace Scott obviously but hopefully someone with that ability to scare defenders. We are relatively short of that with semenyo gone and if Scott leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said: I sometimes struggle with Twitter, but that looks like he is dissing his own tweet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Port Said Red said: I sometimes struggle with Twitter, but that looks like he is dissing his own tweet? He was quoting the Bristol City Online post from James P. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo123 Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Bristol Post get fed bollocks by the club in terms of fees and print it. I remember Gregor kept pushing the idea that Massengo only cost about £2.8m or whatever, which was a complete lie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Jimbo123 said: Bristol Post get fed bollocks by the club in terms of fees and print it. I remember Gregor kept pushing the idea that Massengo only cost about £2.8m or whatever, which was a complete lie. Was it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo123 Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, bcfc01 said: Was it ? Yes. Massengo cost up to about 7.8m, and a lot of the add-ons were met. He was an incredibly expensive deal for the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said: Bristol Post get fed bollocks by the club in terms of fees and print it. I remember Gregor kept pushing the idea that Massengo only cost about £2.8m or whatever, which was a complete lie. That’s not a complete lie, the initial fee was around £2.8m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said: Yes. Massengo cost up to about 7.8m, and a lot of the add-ons were met. He was an incredibly expensive deal for the club. What add-ons were met that cost an additional 5m ? I'm sure the answer lies in one of @Davefevs spreadsheets. Edited June 5, 2023 by bcfc01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 Nige, Alexander and Tins have all spoken about how every pound counts and how we have to get value etc. I have full trust in those 3 that any money we do spend, we will get value from. They won't just piss 2-3 million up the wall like previous incumbents did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo123 Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said: That’s not a complete lie, the initial fee was around £2.8m. That wasn't what Gregor reported. He reported that the deal was up to around 3m, which was a complete lie that was pushed out by the club in attempt to lower expectation. The deal, as originally reported by GFFN, was up to around 8m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: What add-ons were met that cost an additional 5m ? Having a song must have been about £4.95M of that...!! 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said: That wasn't what Gregor reported. He reported that the deal was up to around 3m, which was a complete lie that was pushed out by the club in attempt to lower expectation. The deal, as originally reported by GFFN, was up to around 8m. I'm confused why you believe one report over the other. You call one a complete lie but then completely accept the other without question. Only the clubs will know for sure the rest is speculation at both sides. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said: Yes. Massengo cost up to about 7.8m, and a lot of the add-ons were met. He was an incredibly expensive deal for the club. how do you know this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said: Yes. Massengo cost up to about 7.8m, and a lot of the add-ons were met. He was an incredibly expensive deal for the club. 23 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: What add-ons were met that cost an additional 5m ? I'm sure the answer lies in one of @Davefevs spreadsheets. Apart from any 1st team appearances based add-ons, what else would he have triggered? No promotion or play-offs, nowhere near enough goals or assists, if any existed and no senior international call-up. At a stretch, possibly triggered one with the U21 call up but apart from that, what else? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said: That wasn't what Gregor reported. He reported that the deal was up to around 3m, which was a complete lie that was pushed out by the club in attempt to lower expectation. The deal, as originally reported by GFFN, was up to around 8m. So GFFN, a French media source getting their information from the selling club, report the Massengo deal as £8M, while the Bristol Post, getting their information from the buying club, report the deal as £3M. In other news, Scottish sources getting their info from the selling club, report the McCrorie deal as £2M +add ons, while the Post, getting their info from the buying club, report the deal as £1M + add ons. Can you see a pattern here??????? 4 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 €3m initial fee….French Journos often include contracted wages in their figures too. Of course there were add-ons and sell-on too. But at £10k p.w. wages that’s £2m of the missing £5m already, and it all ties in nicely with the published accounts too Re my sureness of the €3m fee…the source is about as good as you’ll find! No I’m not talking Massengo! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: So GFFN, a French media source getting their information from the selling club, report the Massengo deal as £8M, while the Bristol Post, getting their information from the buying club, report the deal as £3M. In other news, Scottish sources getting their info from the selling club, report the McCrorie deal as £2M +add ons, while the Post, getting their info from the buying club, report the deal as £1M + add ons. Can you see a pattern here??????? No, but I can see one here! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo123 Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: So GFFN, a French media source getting their information from the selling club, report the Massengo deal as £8M, while the Bristol Post, getting their information from the buying club, report the deal as £3M. In other news, Scottish sources getting their info from the selling club, report the McCrorie deal as £2M +add ons, while the Post, getting their info from the buying club, report the deal as £1M + add ons. Can you see a pattern here??????? I can, and funnily enough that's the pattern I originally pointed out, from our side. I'm not going disclose on a public football forum how I know but if anybody does believe the BP report then they're badly mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 hours ago, 1960maaan said: I'd have concerns with moving Vyner to LCB, purely because when his form dipped it was after moving positions. That LCB role finished Taylor Moore here, he'd looked solid on the right but that little move over seemed to disrupt him so much he lost all confidence. Not saying that would happen, but I think Zak looked as though he was turning into a quality RCB , but familiarity and confidence does seem a large part of his game. Dickie I believe has played LCB, according to my mate he's better in a 3 but not sure we will start like that, though the option is there with the same players. Totally with you on the front two. It felt like Nige was juggling things and looking at options towards the end of the season, the Conway / Wells pairing is the best combination we've had for some time. They seem to improve each other, which is massive. Surely a fit Rob Atkinson is and will be our first choice LCB . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 Just now, Percy Pig said: Can Naismith please play? Yes, of course he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 @Percy Pig O’Leary McCrorie Dickie Vyner Pring Naismith Sykes Scott Mehmeti Conway Cornick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 O’Leary Tanner Vyner Dickie Pring Naismith James Scott Sykes Conway Thomas(wildcard) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, TammyAB said: O’Leary Tanner Vyner Dickie Pring Naismith James Scott Sykes Conway Thomas-wildcard Palmer-Houlden Taylor-Clarke Campbell-Slowey now Thomas-Wildcard 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 Big-House 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Palmer-Houlden Taylor-Clarke Campbell-Slowey now Thomas-Wildcard Wiles-Richards Casa-Grande Cameron Moir-Pring ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Wiles-Richards Casa-Grande Cameron Moir-Pring ? Edwards-Owura (Owura Nsiah Edwards-Owura) Edited June 5, 2023 by Davefevs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, Davefevs said: €3m initial fee….French Journos often include contracted wages in their figures too. Of course there were add-ons and sell-on too. But at £10k p.w. wages that’s £2m of the missing £5m already, and it all ties in nicely with the published accounts too Re my sureness of the €3m fee…the source is about as good as you’ll find! No I’m not talking Massengo! So initial fee of £2.8m as published. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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