Calculus Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Winning the Mickey Mouse cup doesn’t qualify as double in my opinion Does winning the Third Division (or whatever it's called) count as 'winning the league' or is that just the top league? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 I actually agree with Robbo. Dont think we can seriously call it a double. Whilst it was an enjoyable season, winning the league - Doing well in the championship is a much better achievement. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Robbored said: It’s my opinion Dave - I don’t expect many to share it tho. Claiming a ‘double’ involves winning the FA cup - no other cup qualifies as far as I’m concerned. Look at that another thing you’re wrong about so theoretically the PL and champions league wouldn’t be a double then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Robbored said: It’s my opinion Dave - I don’t expect many to share it tho. Claiming a ‘double’ involves winning the FA cup - no other cup qualifies as far as I’m concerned. A bit like when you adoringly called Mark Ashton 'Mr. C h a r i s m a' then? Edited June 7, 2023 by Nogbad the Bad 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Look at that another thing you’re wrong about so theoretically the PL and champions league wouldn’t be a double then? Nor is La Liga and the Copa Del Rey, as they didn't win the FA Cup 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 History of the Double: There was one league and one cup, hence the double. We aren’t still in 1888 are we? There are now multiple “divisions”, the League Cup (various names) came into being in the 60’s, the EFL Cup (various names) in the 80s. Let alone Europe. There is a need to play down triumph so a team winning the league and league cup were played down as in “not the real double”. It’s a bollocks really, born out of a history of their only being two competitions to win, and also the rarity it happened until more recent times. If you want to say we didn’t win a League and FA Cup Double fine, but we still won a double in 14/15 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, Davefevs said: History of the Double: There was one league and one cup, hence the double. We aren’t still in 1888 are we? There are now multiple “divisions”, the League Cup (various names) came into being in the 60’s, the EFL Cup (various names) in the 80s. Let alone Europe. There is a need to play down triumph so a team winning the league and league cup were played down as in “not the real double”. It’s a bollocks really, born out of a history of their only being two competitions to win, and also the rarity it happened until more recent times. If you want to say we didn’t win a League and FA Cup Double fine, but we still won a double in 14/15 Being nit-picky, the League Cup and EFL Cup are the same thing. I think for the latter, you were referring to the EFL Trophy (aka the Papa John's Trophy, Johnstone's Paint Trophy etc.). But I do agree, we won a double in 14/15. Our first and only I believe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 I’m shocked, I’ll tell thee, I’m shocked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: History of the Double: There was one league and one cup, hence the double. We aren’t still in 1888 are we? There are now multiple “divisions”, the League Cup (various names) came into being in the 60’s, the EFL Cup (various names) in the 80s. Let alone Europe. There is a need to play down triumph so a team winning the league and league cup were played down as in “not the real double”. It’s a bollocks really, born out of a history of their only being two competitions to win, and also the rarity it happened until more recent times. If you want to say we didn’t win a League and FA Cup Double fine, but we still won a double in 14/15 City won the league and a cup so that’s two trophies but as I posted earlier in my opinion a proper double involves winning the FA cup and a league, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Edited June 7, 2023 by TonyTonyTony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Seventeen said: It's a mess now for sure, but prior to B teams every lower league team would have wanted to win it as it's realistically the only shot at a trophy they'll have. It’s a Big enough competition for us to have taken 40k plus to Wembley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 18 hours ago, Robbored said: I was never a fan SC - laughed at his own jokes too often for my liking, rarely saying anything of substance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleshrews Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 07/06/2023 at 12:04, CodeRed said: Thanks for the update. Is Aaron Wilbraham still with you or has he gone as well. Nothing has been announced about AW yet so as far as I’m aware he’s still at the club, but I’m not sure if the club are considering offering him the job, I’ll guess that he will probably leave and they are probably negotiating his severance package at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 On 07/06/2023 at 17:21, Robbored said: City won the league and a cup so that’s two trophies but as I posted earlier in my opinion a proper double involves winning the FA cup and a league, Whatever happened to the Gloucester Cup ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 On 07/06/2023 at 16:21, Robbored said: City won the league and a cup so that’s two trophies but as I posted earlier in my opinion a proper double involves winning the FA cup and a league, I wouldn't use the word "proper" but I think I'm essence I agree, I mean we won a double but if we used that as a boast it wouldn't hold up to a team who won the Championship play off, it's all about relevance. That season we won two trophies, that's a solid season for a league one team but in the larger picture of football we were still a newly promoted championship team, we hadn't done anything that would garner attention from anyone outside the country. I do still rate Cotterell though, you look at the team he built and a lot of those players helped us or went on to bigger things, look at Ayling, still one of our worst sales in the last couple of decades, went for **** all and ended up playing in the Prem and being the heart and soul for many of the Leeds fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 On 06/06/2023 at 22:54, Robbored said: I was never a fan SC - laughed at his own jokes too often for my liking, rarely saying anything of substance. I'd much rather have a manager that produced great results than clever soundbites, and Cotterill did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 On 07/06/2023 at 16:21, Robbored said: City won the league and a cup so that’s two trophies but as I posted earlier in my opinion a proper double involves winning the FA cup and a league, Understand the point, but for me winning 'the double' will always be the FA Cup and the top league. Winning 'a double' is anything else. If Burnley had won the FA Cup this year, I still would not put them in the list of teams that have done 'the double'. Semantics really, but what the words mean to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 3 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: I'd much rather have a manager that produced great results than clever soundbites, and Cotterill did At league one level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Spike said: I wouldn't use the word "proper" but I think I'm essence I agree, I mean we won a double but if we used that as a boast it wouldn't hold up to a team who won the Championship play off, it's all about relevance. That season we won two trophies, that's a solid season for a league one team but in the larger picture of football we were still a newly promoted championship team, we hadn't done anything that would garner attention from anyone outside the country. I do still rate Cotterell though, you look at the team he built and a lot of those players helped us or went on to bigger things, look at Ayling, still one of our worst sales in the last couple of decades, went for **** all and ended up playing in the Prem and being the heart and soul for many of the Leeds fans. With the "rumours" of the players he wanted to sign, I wonder how different things could have been Guarantee Harry McGuire wouldn't have had the career he's had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 On 07/06/2023 at 09:45, daleshrews said: Thanks to all BCFC fans for their kind comments last season when we played that lot from up the Gloucester Road, for some reason Joey Barton never approved of Cotterill’s tactics and made it very public, but SC is twice the manager Barton is if not more. I think the whining about that game continues to this day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prankerd Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 07/06/2023 at 11:43, Robbored said: Winning the Mickey Mouse cup doesn’t qualify as double in my opinion Its our level, probably the only double we will see for a long time... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 07/06/2023 at 13:24, Seventeen said: It's a mess now for sure, but prior to B teams every lower league team would have wanted to win it as it's realistically the only shot at a trophy they'll have. Has a B team ever actually won it, or even in the final? Can't remember one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, prankerd said: Its our level, probably the only double we will see for a long time... Spot on, all this talk of the “real” double being the league & FA Cup implies that we are seriously in contention for both on a regular basis. Robbored’s big hero couldn’t even get us out of the third tier in four effing attempts with a million pound striker & another he bought for £600k (god knows how much that would be now). Talk about the absolute definition of deluded, we haven’t been in the top flight since 1980 (by the way GJ got us by far the closest since) & have got nowhere near the cup final in my 50 years plus of supporting. We are a mid table Championship club trying to be a top six one, “real” double? FFS. Edited June 27, 2023 by GrahamC 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 07/06/2023 at 14:49, Davefevs said: I’m shocked, I’ll tell thee, I’m shocked! Sorry Dave but how dare you try and bring the posts back to the original topic. Note to Mods...please warn him that if he does this again, he will have his flip charts confiscated! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 9 hours ago, prankerd said: Its our level, probably the only double we will see for a long time... It’s a bit sad that ‘little ol Bristol City’ sees winning the MM cup and the league as a ‘double’ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Robbored said: It’s a bit sad that ‘little ol Bristol City’ sees winning the MM cup and the league as a ‘double’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, Robbored said: It’s a bit sad that ‘little ol Bristol City’ sees winning the MM cup and the league as a ‘double’ Well im 43 and it’s been the only double we have had a chance of winning since i started watching 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redland Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Rob k said: Well im 43 and it’s been the only double we have had a chance of winning since i started watching Ditto. And I have been supporting city for 60 years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 38 minutes ago, Rob k said: Well im 43 and it’s been the only double we have had a chance of winning since i started watching Your age and length of time watching City are meaningless. ‘Double’ involves wing the FA Cup and the league - not the MM cup. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 43 minutes ago, Rob k said: Well im 43 and it’s been the only double we have had a chance of winning since i started watching Your age and length of time watching City are meaningless. ‘Double’ involves wing the FA Cup and the league - not the MM cup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.