TV Tom Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: True , but we do the same , to a lesser extent. I have no sympathy for owner & Club, but it's always the fans that feel it most. A far, far, far lesser extent, and we have a pot to piss in unlike Reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 On 28/06/2023 at 22:57, The Bard said: He used to 'drink' in the Lion Cliftonwood next door to my Grandparents. There's an area of Bristol that has completely changed over the last 40 years... I used to work opposite the Lion in Church Lane. My colleagues told of how they used to wind up the film crew when Shoestring was being filmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, TV Tom said: A far, far, far lesser extent, and we have a pot to piss in unlike Reading Yet we were apparently close to breaking FFP and a points deduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Yet we were apparently close to breaking FFP and a points deduction. But we didn’t, Reading’s problem has been known for a few seasons now but they’ve seemed to have done very little about it, Rovers go there next month they can easily make a dent in their debts by giving them 20,000 tickets which Rovers will knock out within an hour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 minute ago, TV Tom said: But we didn’t, Reading’s problem has been known for a few seasons now but they’ve seemed to have done very little about it, Rovers go there next month they can easily make a dent in their debts by giving them 20,000 tickets which Rovers will knock out within an hour That's bad owners for you, and as I said i feel nothing for him/them . While they were "going for it" , I understood them holding back on away numbers. But with original points deduction done at the end of 2021 , and another suspended, that was when opening up the ground to all away fans would have made sense. Specially when they knew it was doubtful they couldn't comply with the business plan. This table is very telling, I saw @Davefevs posted it earlier . You know you have a shit owner with stats like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 13, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Yet we were apparently close to breaking FFP and a points deduction. I'm not sure that is factually accurate per se Everyone struggled during covid other than that it's just social media speculation 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 Just now, phantom said: I'm not sure that is factually accurate per se Everyone struggled during covid other than that it's just social media speculation I thought even the CEO came out and said we would probably be ok, and so implying it was close. I may be wrong ( with my memory I type that more than any other statement ) , but if people are saying there was a chance, then that means we were close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 On 26/06/2023 at 15:14, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Nothing will comeol of this other than a waste of court time. Yup. Write to multiple MPs get HMRC to accept 25% because of its community value and move Reading to Derbyshire. Probably move Reading to Derbyshire first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Billy Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: I thought even the CEO came out and said we would probably be ok, and so implying it was close. I may be wrong ( with my memory I type that more than any other statement ) , but if people are saying there was a chance, then that means we were close. This was when clubs were not aware of what they would be allowed to write off for COVID I believe. If we had tipped over then many other clubs would have been in a similar situation. Imagine every team starting on minus 3 points! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, Red Billy said: Imagine every team starting on minus 3 points! That would be. .err…pointless….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) On 13/09/2023 at 17:40, phantom said: I'm not sure that is factually accurate per se Everyone struggled during covid other than that it's just social media speculation On 13/09/2023 at 17:43, 1960maaan said: I thought even the CEO came out and said we would probably be ok, and so implying it was close. I may be wrong ( with my memory I type that more than any other statement ) , but if people are saying there was a chance, then that means we were close. This is fair although amendments did kick in, not necessarily IMO close to a deduction as such but had we put in for large Covid losses and kept Semenyo in January e.g. I don't think the League would have reacted well and a referral would have been quite plausible. That would have been seen as gaming the system somewhat. Once Semenyo sold thst netted off any risk but we were under severe restrictions up until then. Perhaps we could have kep5 Semenyo until end of June but I believe at the very least we would have been heavily restricted, monitored until such time as we sold him. Maybe more might have followed had he stayed into this season. Edited September 14, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted September 15, 2023 Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 On 13/09/2023 at 17:07, Davefevs said: Live fast, Dai Yongge 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted September 15, 2023 Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 6 hours ago, transfer reader said: Live fast, Dai Yongge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj77 Posted September 15, 2023 Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 7 hours ago, transfer reader said: Live fast, Dai Yongge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted September 15, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 8 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: This is fair although amendments did kick in, not necessarily IMO close to a deduction as such but had we put in for large Covid losses and kept Semenyo in January e.g. I don't think the League would have reacted well and a referral would have been quite plausible. That would have been seen as gaming the system somewhat. Once Semenyo sold thst netted off any risk but we were under severe restrictions up until then. Perhaps we could have kep5 Semenyo until end of June but I believe at the very least we would have been heavily restricted, monitored until such time as we sold him. Maybe more might have followed had he stayed into this season. They did 7 hours ago, transfer reader said: Live fast, Dai Yongge Criminally underrated reply! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 15, 2023 Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, Ian M said: They did Sadly they did yes...£25m for our star player hopefully future England international. What I meant was had we not sold Semenyo by end of May, or June we would have been perhaps referred for an overspend. Cornick and Mehmeti prior to Semenyo felt impossible e.g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barrs Court Red Posted September 29, 2023 Report Share Posted September 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: It’s almost like spending millions on clubs with no historical support and not really growing the infrastructure to maintain a higher level leads to bad outcomes. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 29, 2023 Report Share Posted September 29, 2023 Just now, Barrs Court Red said: It’s almost like spending millions on clubs with no historical support and not really growing the infrastructure to maintain a higher level leads to bad outcomes. Perhaps although Madejski was a good owner and custodian. Since him though...they do have a modern albeit non spectacular ground and perhaps surprisingly a Category One Academy though. Certainly no big fanbase of course. Whether Dai Yongge has run out of money or can't be bothered anymore.. who knows. He sure did live fast in trying to get promoted before FFP closed in. (Live fast, Dai Yongge). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 29, 2023 Report Share Posted September 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: He sure did live fast in trying to get promoted before FFP closed in. (Live fast, Dai Yongge). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted September 29, 2023 Report Share Posted September 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Whether Dai Yongge has run out of money or can't be bothered anymore.. who knows. If he has money in China his government is unlikely to let him get it out. If his business is property the Chinese property sector is in a major crisis. The biggest company Evergrande has over $300b debt for instance. No grounds for Reading fans to be optimistic for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2023 Didn`t someone on twitter work out that Dai Yongge had been responsible for more lost points than any team they`d played since he took over? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 29, 2023 Report Share Posted September 29, 2023 (edited) Good news and bad news and mixed news for Reading. They've put the wages- should be a given but nonetheless they've paid the wages so no further punishment just yet. Embargo, is thst still in play or? Not so good news, Dai Yongge and his asking price..£80m! I assume that includes the assets that he now owns and he presumably would be still selling at a loss but if he thinks he is getting £80m for a League One or even Championship Reading?? I suppose Home Counties Land Value but £80m for Reading... Edited September 29, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 29, 2023 Report Share Posted September 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Good news and bad news and mixed news for Reading. They've put the wages- should be a given but nonetheless they've paid the wages so no further punishment just yet. Embargo, is thst still in play or? Not so good news, Dai Yongge and his asking price..£80m! I assume that includes the assets that he now owns and he presumably would be still selling at a loss but if he thinks he is getting £80m for a League One or even Championship Reading?? I suppose Home Counties Land Value but £80m for Reading... You have to wonder if 80mil is 'his' price, or a price that clears loans, debts, overdrafts etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted September 29, 2023 Report Share Posted September 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Good news and bad news and mixed news for Reading. They've put the wages- should be a given but nonetheless they've paid the wages so no further punishment just yet. Embargo, is thst still in play or? Not so good news, Dai Yongge and his asking price..£80m! I assume that includes the assets that he now owns and he presumably would be still selling at a loss but if he thinks he is getting £80m for a League One or even Championship Reading?? I suppose Home Counties Land Value but £80m for Reading... I believe the most ever paid for a Championship club was £90m for Leeds. Dream on Dai. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuni Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Reading: HMRC lodges second winding-up petition of year against League One club - BBC Sport 5th time unlucky ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Be careful what you wish for……….. ( Thought I’d get it in there before some idiot does ) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notbarrymanc Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Responding - don’t think so mate, Nige cut a lot of costs out the last couple of years Edited October 31, 2023 by Notbarrymanc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuni Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, Notbarrymanc said: Responding - don’t think so mate, Nige cut a lot of costs out the last couple of years Reading FC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 I reckon we are approaching cash break even now but we cannot be sure. SL's contribution will be vastly reduced if not negated this season I expect. I wish Reading and Sheffield Wednesday well in their off pitch sagas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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