Was Nigel Pearson Lying

[Redandproud]

Nigel person said in a pre-match press conference that Alex Scott was injured, then we find whilst the game was being played last night he is a Bournemouth having a medical,as stated by SSN , was he lying to the fans, 

[David Brent]

No

[Slacker]

Perhaps just being economical with the truth?

[CTIDhc]

Bid believed to have came in yesterday and things moved on from now, wouldn't have left him out on Saturday with the assumption a bid was to be made imo 

[CodeRed]

He was being "Economical with the actulité"

or Alternative facts I believe it's called nowadays.

[Rossi the Robin]

He was put in an awkward position

Probably not allowed to say the truth 

Not really bothered tbh 

[Super]

7 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

Nigel person said in a pre-match press conference that Alex Scott was injured, then we find whilst the game was being played last night he is a Bournemouth having a medical,as stated by SSN , was he lying to the fans, 

Does it actually matter?

[brady bunch]

He just said he "had a knock in training" and would not be playing. That's almost certainly all true! everyone gets a "knock" in every training session..

The facts are the club was not willing to risk real injury with so much money on the line is also almost certainly true, but the club and NP probably cannot say that without "outrage" on here and elsewhere....

Note the difference to how NP reported AW's injury, lots of back ground and technical info on it....

 

[MarcusX]

15 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

Nigel person said in a pre-match press conference that Alex Scott was injured, then we find whilst the game was being played last night he is a Bournemouth having a medical,as stated by SSN , was he lying to the fans, 

Does it matter? I think we all know this is what happens when transfers are in progress.

I don't think a single person expected to see Alex on the teamsheet Saturday, less so last night.

[Simon bristol]

Some things are commercially sensitive and cant be discussed,,, clearly he hasnt told the exact truth on lots of things, but its only to be expected. The only problem with that is that it makes it hard to tell when the truth is actually being told.

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

10 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

Nigel person said in a pre-match press conference that Alex Scott was injured, then we find whilst the game was being played last night he is a Bournemouth having a medical,as stated by SSN , was he lying to the fans, 

Both can be true, he said that he had a knock and wasn't fit for last weekend, he's having a medical that certainly wouldn't fail him and he could always be fit now.  Just shit luck that a bit that meets our price has come in for him.

[haggis_farewell]

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here. Knock in training made it touch & go for Saturday, so decided not to risk him and aggravate an slight injury, particularly if Bournemouth were making serious noises. Of course with a bid in and medical yesterday, situation changed and no way he can start for us. One thing I really like about Nige is he rarely treats the fans as fools.

[italian dave]

Doesn’t really matter. Probably just as well he didn’t play Saturday if a move was that close - last thing we needed was another Burnley performance from him!

And, as others have said, there’s a difference between ‘he picked up an knock in training’ and ‘he is injured and that’s the only reason he’s not been selected’.

[LondonBristolian]

I don't think Pearson was lying but I wonder if his mood in his post-match press conference last night was influenced by him feeling the way events unfolded make it look like he was either lying or out of the loop completely. 

Edited August 10, 2023 by LondonBristolian

[Eddie Hitler]

If he had been entirely honest and revealed every detail of a confidential ongoing transaction worth upwards of £20m and so jeopardising that transaction then that would have been the response of an utter moron, which he very much isn't.

[mozo]

It's a lie that clubs routinely tell so I'm perfectly comfortable that it was a lie.

[Henry]

You can have an injury and still pass a medical.

Medicals are a risk assessment, not a test.

[Tim Monaghan]

Of course Pearson is telling the truth. 

Clubs can still bid and sign injured players. It's only swelling ffs .

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

If the approach by Bournemouth was known at the time then there’s not much else he could say under the circumstances.

If Bournemouth hadn’t presented an acceptable offer at that time and Nigel was told not to risk Scott for the greater good of the clubs finances then there’s not much else he could say under the circumstances.

Or…he could’ve been injured.

Edited August 10, 2023 by Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan

[ExiledAjax]

13 minutes ago, Henry said:

You can have an injury and still pass a medical.

Medicals are a risk assessment, not a test.

Exactly. Both things can be true.

[LondonBristolian]

55 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

If the approach by Bournemouth was known at the time then there’s not much else he could say under the circumstances.

If Bournemouth hadn’t presented an acceptable offer at that time and Nigel was told not to risk Scott for the greater good of the clubs finances then there’s not much else he could say under the circumstances.

Or…he could’ve been injured.

I think the other factor - without wishing to cast any aspersions on Scott personally - is that a player with a knock might consider their availability slightly differently if they were on the cusp of a big move. In those circumstances, it could be that a player doesn't want to risk aggravating an injury if they know they are on the cusp on a transfer even if they would likely play through the same injury if that transfer were not on the horizon. 

Edited August 10, 2023 by LondonBristolian

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

What Pearson could have said:

" We are in delicate final talks with Bournemouth and given that there isn't huge interest in Alex- the club needs to cash in because we need the funds and the risk of missing out/AS getting a major injury like Conway, Atkinson/Benarous is greater than the benefit of keeping him another few months. We have little choice to sell our best players and hopefully we will be empowered to make some signings with such a big price agreed and we also hope that no one will try to pull our pants down on any new signings"

Alternatively he could have just deflected, remained professional and just said" He's got a minor injury".

 

 

[Silvio Dante]

17 minutes ago, Henry said:

You can have an injury and still pass a medical.

Medicals are a risk assessment, not a test.

And as we know from Semenyo and now being out with a shin problem that was evident here, Bournemouth’s medicals aren’t the most rigorous. In fact, Alex could probably have had his legs blown off on the way to Dorset and still pass.

[View from the Dolman]

6 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Exactly. Both things can be true.

Yeah but that would get in the way of being outraged. 

[TheReds]

12 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Exactly. Both things can be true.

Sorry, that simply won't wash on here!!

[downendcity]

 

[ExiledAjax]

9 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

Yeah but that would get in the way of being outraged. 

 

2 minutes ago, TheReds said:

Sorry, that simply won't wash on here!!

Imagine if a player could only go for a pre-transfer medical if they were 100% fit. The entire transfer system would grind to a halt. 

Medicals are a disclosure exercise, same way you get a survey done before you buy a house, a defect in the guttering won't stop you buying it, but you know what you're getting into.

Edited August 10, 2023 by ExiledAjax

[Open End Numb Legs]

Just to add, I have a knock on my right knee at the moment. I am sure that is the reason I won't be selected this weekend.

[downendcity]

2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

 

Imagine if a player could only go for a pre-transfer medical if they were 100% fit. The entire transfer system would grind to a halt. 

Medicals are a disclosure exercise, same way you get a survey done before you buy a house, a defect in the guttering won't stop you buying it, but you know what you're getting into.

Rising damp or death watch beetle showing up in a player's medical might deter a few clubs though.

Then again we've signed a few who showed signs of rot before coming here, but it never put us of!

[RedRoss]

What was he supposed to say the last week? Yeah just being honest fans.. he's off to Bournemouth so I can't play him today whilst the clubs are still coming to an agreement on a fee.

It doesn't happen that way. There is always a 'knock' ect stated by the manager and then they leave. Sometimes managers will say their head isn't in the right space (basically they've said they don't want to play and move on) its just a football white lie until its wrapped up.