Ivorguy Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 29 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said: Don’t think Yeboah offers much yet - will be a player but not ready at this level. Well that goes back to the problem of not having enough depth of quality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, glynriley said: Or whoever decides the subs. Bringing off Bell and Sykes is bad enough, but Yeboah when you’re chasing a result… awful. My gut feelings say the four subs were an anger reaction & not considered. Although of course I can't be sure of that, it certainly presented itself in that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hand of RO'D Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Wanderingred said: It was a freak result. Even after the subs, there looked like only one winner. 9 times out of 10, we’d had scored a couple in that second half and won 4-2. That would have been the result that our performance deserved but there are the very odd occasions where you just need to put things down to the footballing gods, and today was one of those. THIS 100%. I’m still struggling to get my head around how we’ve come away from that game with a 3-2 loss, we were terrific in every department. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 46 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: His win draw loss percentage is probably awful and apart from the last few games and a small period last season the football has been as well. I can see why he has not has his contract renewed. A win percentage means absolutely nothing without context. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Well that goes back to the problem of not having enough depth of quality. Nigel didn't have a gun to his head & didn't have to expose him in such a difficult/pivotal situation. He chose to do so,and wrongly so imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Vintage Bristol City that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, BS3_RED said: You might want to duck as the happy clappers will be all over you for daring to question NP. Glyn (Jase) has always been a big fan of Pearson. Nothing wrong it saying his bizarre decisions cost us the game today, when they blatantly did.! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Son of Fred said: My gut feelings say the four subs were an anger reaction & not considered. Although of course I can't be sure of that, it certainly presented itself in that way. We weren’t playing that badly. Tanner deserved to go off, gutted McCrorie is out as we are crying out for a bombing down the wing right back. Pring gave us a lot on the left. TGH is a good player but again no idea why he is on free kicks. Naismith had to be, I was expecting Kal to take that one on the edge. Cornick did well, but Sykes was on it and shouldn’t have been taken off. I’d have been tempted even to go 3.5.2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Cityboy1954 said: He does give me the impression hes not enjoying his football . He was dangerous first half but a fit Tommy starts. I would like to have a go at 3.5.2. Think we could score some goals. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Cityboy1954 said: He does give me the impression hes not enjoying his football . He’s always given that impression on the pitch with his mannerisms but we should know by now that isn’t the case 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Max worries me, he really does. I never feel confident with him, lacks presence and some poor decisions today. The first goal he should get a hand on it. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Max worries me, he really does. I never feel confident with him, lacks presence and some poor decisions today. The first goal he should get a hand on it. I’m normally happy to dish out criticism, but that 1st goal looked unstoppable from the angle I was seeing it from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuffle Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, The hand of RO'D said: THIS 100%. I’m still struggling to get my head around how we’ve come away from that game with a 3-2 loss, we were terrific in every department. Can’t be terrific in every department when you concede 3 in any game. Granted we should have won but just lost to a poor side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 NP stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Respectfully I’d disagree with the OP Glyn. 2 weeks ago v West Brom it was hugely frustrating that we didn’t make any subs until the 79th minute when the game was crying out for us to inject something to change the momentum of the game. Today Nige basically did the polar opposite of what he did v West Brom. We were by far the better team in the first half and once again we came out slow and sloppy in the second half and the opposition got on top. Exactly the same as v West Brom. When I saw the 4 changes I was surprised but actually pleasantly so. It was very clear to me that the game was going the same way as West Brom and we needed to do something to change the momentum. Stoke had began to dominate and after we’d been by far the better team in the first half it needed to change. And it worked. After the subs, we immediately wrestled back the momentum and were again the better side. Yeboah was giving them something to think about. Cornick was battling and scrapping for everything and giving their Cb’s a real hard time (in fact I’d give him man of the match). Weimann did what Weimann does and was drifting, dragging and making penetrative runs. The changes gave Stoke a problem and shifted the momentum back to us. Until we blew it at the end - and that was zero fault of any of the subs. Whilst I was very critical of Nige for the lack of subs v West Brom, I was really pleased to see how he reacted today and the early subs really shifted the momentum back to us in a game that looked like it was about to get away from us again. I was happy with these changes today. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 It’s amazing how we all see the game so differently. I thought the subs made perfect sense…. We’d lost our intensity, especially on the press, after they pulled one back and the subs all put in a massive shift to help us get that back. With us having 2 more games this week, it all seemed sensible to me. Of the players that came on, Cornick had the best game I’ve seen from him and Weimann gave us the energy that you’d expect from him. I agree with others who say that Yeboah just isn’t quite ready to affect a game of that magnitude yet. He’s full of running, power and pace but is miles off being an effective championship player in my opinion. Ultimately I thought we deserved to win the game but for some dreadful defending. It was incredibly frustrating to watch. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted September 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 34 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said: No goals and no assists. As I said, have faith he will be good long term but needs time out on loan as too raw right now. Reminds me of Semenyo. Brought in too early to make an impact. Needs a few cameo appearances when we’re in control of the game. Not ready to be a game changer, yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Max worries me, he really does. I never feel confident with him, lacks presence and some poor decisions today. The first goal he should get a hand on it. No keeper was stopping that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Let’s see how we react on Wednesday - need a result as unlikely to get much/anything against Leeds - don’t want to go into the international break on the back of a really poor run of results Play like we did going forward today and cut out the mistakes and we are more than good enough to win away at Rotherham Real tough one to take today but hopefully, we will bounce back in midweek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, The hand of RO'D said: THIS 100%. I’m still struggling to get my head around how we’ve come away from that game with a 3-2 loss, we were terrific in every department. That just not true. I don't think we're as bad as the op states but we were far from good. The amount of misplaced passes and hoofs up to the channels was mind boggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, sinenomine said: Seemed pretty clear to me that Sykes was hooked for lack of tracking back off the ball. He was fine going forward but wasn't offering Tanner much support. Yep, tweeted @Shuffle after the game that I wondered if Bell and Sykes were subbed for not tracking back a couple of time second half. Haven’t seen their equaliser, and it was in far corner from where I sat so did Bell switch off for the give and go to Hoever? (Great pull back by the way) (Great strike for their opener by the way) 1 hour ago, Harvey86 said: I actually thought Sykes tracked back better in the first half than Bell did 2nd half (watching from the Dolman). Thought Cornick was good, but needs someone closer to him to pick up the ball when he flicks on/ it bundles off his shin. Like the look of Yeboah, but wish we could keep him as a last ten substitute for energy rather than pinning our hopes on him that early in the game First half we were pretty dominant (as dominant as a City side ever is), so not an awful lot of tracking back needed. 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: Very good second half after 54th minute? We had one shot. I don’t think one shot in 43 minutes of football can ever be called very good. Lacked any sort of finesse or calmness on the ball: thought it was really poor We had 6 shots at half-time. 13 at full-time. All 7 in the second half came after the subs. I’ve just gone back over bbc live text. So you’re facts are way, way off. 7 minutes ago, Son of Fred said: My gut feelings say the four subs were an anger reaction & not considered. Although of course I can't be sure of that, it certainly presented itself in that way. I think there was some anger in Bell and Sykes subs. Tanner injury, carried over from first half, perhaps? TGH almost came on first half. I wouldn’t have made 4 subs. I actually thought we played well for most of the game. I think the result is driving people’s criticism. If they want to be critical of the result, that’s cool, I’m bloody annoyed by it too. 3 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: We weren’t playing that badly. Tanner deserved to go off, gutted McCrorie is out as we are crying out for a bombing down the wing right back. Pring gave us a lot on the left. TGH is a good player but again no idea why he is on free kicks. Naismith had to be, I was expecting Kal to take that one on the edge. Cornick did well, but Sykes was on it and shouldn’t have been taken off. I’d have been tempted even to go 3.5.2. Because he was carrying an injury? Or because you thought he was poor? I thought he gave more attacking wise today than he has all season. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said: Disagree with most of this. We were very good in the second half after the starters had drifted off the pace. Freak result No. Typical City who for for most of my life have been able to snatch a defeat from the jaws of victory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Shuffle said: Can’t be terrific in every department when you concede 3 in any game. Granted we should have won but just lost to a poor side No, you can’t. We defended really poorly for their winner. I need to see the equaliser again. Looked sloppy in letting Hoever get the cross in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted September 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Harry said: Respectfully I’d disagree with the OP Glyn. 2 weeks ago v West Brom it was hugely frustrating that we didn’t make any subs until the 79th minute when the game was crying out for us to inject something to change the momentum of the game. Today Nige basically did the polar opposite of what he did v West Brom. We were by far the better team in the first half and once again we came out slow and sloppy in the second half and the opposition got on top. Exactly the same as v West Brom. When I saw the 4 changes I was surprised but actually pleasantly so. It was very clear to me that the game was going the same way as West Brom and we needed to do something to change the momentum. Stoke had began to dominate and after we’d been by far the better team in the first half it needed to change. And it worked. After the subs, we immediately wrestled back the momentum and were again the better side. Yeboah was giving them something to think about. Cornick was battling and scrapping for everything and giving their Cb’s a real hard time (in fact I’d give him man of the match). Weimann did what Weimann does and was drifting, dragging and making penetrative runs. The changes gave Stoke a problem and shifted the momentum back to us. Until we blew it at the end - and that was zero fault of any of the subs. Whilst I was very critical of Nige for the lack of subs v West Brom, I was really pleased to see how he reacted today and the early subs really shifted the momentum back to us in a game that looked like it was about to get away from us again. I was happy with these changes today. Fair enough, I respect your opinion mate. Needless to say, I don’t agree 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, Cityboy1954 said: He does give me the impression hes not enjoying his football . Are you serious? The shot that hit the Bristol Bears sign was pretty awful but he worked bloody hard, took his goal well. He gives me the complete opposite impression. As an aside Harry Cornick can’t catch a break, that was one of his best performances for us & we still get beat, on that evidence he definitely deserves a start in one of the 2 away games coming up. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 We need someone who can get on the end of crosses (or we should have got someone) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsham Ed Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Yeboah will be good but he isn’t ready yet. He doesn’t ever look threatening and struggles to get past the full back. I think with Conway back we see less of him for now. 100% agree, very frustrating against a physical team today, spent of his time on his backside. Edited September 30, 2023 by Corsham Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 I don’t think the subs were the problem, I thought they gave us the momentum back after Stoke somehow got an equaliser. The defending for their 3rd goal was embarrassing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, Bodiesaffer said: Agreed, however I don’t want to risk Conway having another set back. If he’s fit enough to be on the bench, he should be fit enough to play longer than the few minutes he did. If he’s not 90% fit, he shouldn’t be on the bench IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, glynriley said: Fair enough, I respect your opinion mate. Needless to say, I don’t agree Yep. Trust me mate, it was a surprise to me that he did it. But ultimately I think overall we played better after the substitutions and I don’t think the loss was as a result of those changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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