milo1111 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, ORANGE500 said: In fact it was around £500,000 a week in 20/21 and who is it that funds that loss? Christ. We really don’t get VFM on the playing side do we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Red Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I thought with the Rowett rumours last night, we’d hear stronger rumours today, bookies reducing odds, etc. But there’s been nothing of note. So, although I was prepping myself for Rowett, I’m now a bit confused what might be going on. They must have already been talking to him 2 weeks ago as when I was told he was being lined up there was no real rumours re Nige be ready to be shown the door. Not sure why he is not fav with the bookies they don’t get it wrong to many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Been following City since November 71 when my Dad took me to watch a game (which we lost) from The Dolman Stand. Like a good few others on this forum I've seen good times and bad times but I can honestly say I've never been so disappointed by a managerial dismissal at Ashton Gate in that time. If this situation has been bubbling for a good while (and it seems it has been) I would have thought that City would have been sounding out other candidates for the post and fully expect the successful candidate to be in situ for the Wednesday game. That being the case, it'll be an "out of work" head coach/manager and Gary Rowett would be a leading contender. I also believe we may opt for Neil Harris. Dean Smith, John Eustace etc....I just can't see it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, ORANGE500 said: I've been following Bristol City since 1990 but unlike you I have no agenda I just support the club but I can acknowledge that the positive things the current ownership have done far outweigh the negative like bankrolling a business than loses £300,000 a week. They don’t JUST bankroll a business losing £300k per week ! They RUN a business losing £300k a week ! It’s down to them ! Why do so many Lansdown supporters constantly disassociate them from the losses ? There’s just no logic to that ! 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, Baldyman said: They don’t JUST bankroll a business losing £300k per week ! They RUN a business losing £300k a week ! It’s down to them ! Why do so many Lansdown supporters constantly disassociate them from the losses ? There’s just no logic to that ! Indeed. The vast amount of debt and the very reason we got ourselves into the FFP mess we got in (which Pearson did such a brilliant job at sorting out) is directly because of Steve and his boy’s decisions. The buck stops with them. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuni Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 29 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: In a weird way I so hope they had Rowett all lined up and following the backlash to NP's sacking he has told them to do one. Let the chuckle brothers sort that mess out. Over to you John. He will not be concerned about a fan backlash about the previous guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, yatesuperreds said: Chris wilder I reckon I’ve got a sneaky feeling it will be wilder also but he will want some backing in the January window if he’s expected to get us in the top 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, ORANGE500 said: In fact it was around £500,000 a week in 20/21 and who is it that funds that loss? You Steve oh great one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimpton Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 horse race unless Robins chopped by cov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, INCRED said: I’ve got a sneaky feeling it will be wilder also but he will want some backing in the January window if he’s expected to get us in the top 6 I wouldn’t be unhappy with Wilder but as you said he will only take the job i’d imagine if he has been guaranteed backing in January and beyond. Would be a huge slap in the face for Pearson if that is the case but as many have said the nest egg was clearly being saved up for the next man to come in and spend.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Baldyman said: They don’t JUST bankroll a business losing £300k per week ! They RUN a business losing £300k a week ! It’s down to them ! Why do so many Lansdown supporters constantly disassociate them from the losses ? There’s just no logic to that ! This is something the blue few do alot but then its GasLogic at its finest. We are greatful for the stadium and improvements made to the club infrastructure of course we are but on the pitch the Lansdowns have fecked it up royally so many times with their ego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Bris Red said: Indeed. The vast amount of debt and the very reason we got ourselves into the FFP mess we got in (which Pearson did such a brilliant job at sorting out) is directly because of Steve and his boy’s decisions. The buck stops with them. Pearson and Gould tbh but yea I agree and there would still have been losses to finance, but they would have been lower if not for the constant churn of players etc. Edited October 30, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: Been following City since November 71 when my Dad took me to watch a game (which we lost) from The Dolman Stand. Like a good few others on this forum I've seen good times and bad times but I can honestly say I've never been so disappointed by a managerial dismissal at Ashton Gate in that time. If this situation has been bubbling for a good while (and it seems it has been) I would have thought that City would have been sounding out other candidates for the post and fully expect the successful candidate to be in situ for the Wednesday game. That being the case, it'll be an "out of work" head coach/manager and Gary Rowett would be a leading contender. I also believe we may opt for Neil Harris. Dean Smith, John Eustace etc....I just can't see it Who we playing Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyreds89 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, ORANGE500 said: I've been following Bristol City since 1990 but unlike you I have no agenda I just support the club but I can acknowledge that the positive things the current ownership have done far outweigh the negative like bankrolling a business than loses £300,000 a week. You also have to take into account that he’s running the business that was losing £300k a week, you have to ask yourself how he allowed it to get to that position? Regardless of who you employ to set strategies, negotiate player sells & acquisitions, order the stock, sell the tickets and run the business/corporate arms you should be close enough to your business to understand the numbers & ultimately sign off the expenditure! Only one person who could have stopped in getting to that position and that’s the owner! Sounds mad doesn’t it when you think about it as he’s been so successful in wider businesses to have generated the wealth that he has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Baldyman said: They don’t JUST bankroll a business losing £300k per week ! They RUN a business losing £300k a week ! It’s down to them ! Why do so many Lansdown supporters constantly disassociate them from the losses ? There’s just no logic to that ! so how many football clubs in the Championship make a profit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 34 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I thought with the Rowett rumours last night, we’d hear stronger rumours today, bookies reducing odds, etc. But there’s been nothing of note. So, although I was prepping myself for Rowett, I’m now a bit confused what might be going on. My thoughts too. I was expecting a quick announcement to try and change the mood of supporters but instead a further long silence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherrich Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 54 minutes ago, ORANGE500 said: Very intelligent comment sir As you are obviously a Lansdown fan, I have offered you a response that befits the Lansdownes intelligence at running a football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: so how many football clubs in the Championship make a profit? Not many - but playing Devils advocate even in the realm of Championship expenditure, between MA and LJ, SL really fudged us. NP dug us out and was swiftly booted. The difference is now - there is some headroom. Why the two of them didn't give to Nige I honestly have no idea, aside from their own petty egos and ensuing disagreements with NP going forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, Zuni said: He will not be concerned about a fan backlash about the previous guy. Thanks, bot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bris Red said: I wouldn’t be unhappy with Wilder but as you said he will only take the job i’d imagine if he has been guaranteed backing in January and beyond. Would be a huge slap in the face for Pearson if that is the case but as many have said the nest egg was clearly being saved up for the next man to come in and spend.. Depends how principled Wilder is, seeing that he is Pearson's neighbour and friend in Sheffield. I believe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: My thoughts too. I was expecting a quick announcement to try and change the mood of supporters but instead a further long silence. Personally think if they do have someone lined up ( which I xxxxxxx hope they do have after the Holden debacle ) it will be Wednesday / Thursday with Curtis in charge for Saturdays game if they announce it any earlier it just wouldn’t seem right , like your mrs meeting someone at her husbands wake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 9 hours ago, red kev said: Andy king? Cheap easy option! That would be one way of the board ensuring he does not play at CB given they don’t like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: My thoughts too. I was expecting a quick announcement to try and change the mood of supporters but instead a further long silence. 5 minutes ago, redkev said: Personally think if they do have someone lined up ( which I xxxxxxx hope they do have after the Holden debacle ) it will be Wednesday / Thursday with Curtis in charge for Saturdays game if they announce it any earlier it just wouldn’t seem right , like your mrs meeting someone at her husbands wake 6 weeks time is in December! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuni Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Thanks, bot. You are welcome human worker drone. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, redkev said: if they announce it any earlier it just wouldn’t seem right , like your mrs meeting someone at her husbands wake Maybe I've been watching too much 48 hours / FBI files on YouTube, but I'm thinking - poisoned husband; - @Fordy62 needs to investigate how her last 3 husbands died (but good luck with that 'cus she would have had them all cremated); - someone needs to give her new millionaire fiance a heads up; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) I am going to check some of these losses. I don't doubt that the cash contribution over the years is significant but the key bit is cash losses and equity Never conflate the profit and loss with contribution necessarily, at least not without checking the Cash Flow as well. Can't stress that enough. I don't like this new long term debt with Pula, it's in the 2022 accounts, isn't new news. Edited October 30, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Depends how principled Wilder is, seeing that he is Pearson's neighbour and friend in Sheffield. I believe. Wilder? Bet he's livid. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Dolman_Stand said: Pretty balanced post this and struggle to disagree with any of it but it just felt like it was on the verge of all coming together either with a bit more backing after Scott was sold or a year later than planned. Yea the Scott thing wasn’t ideal and is why I think sacking now is harsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORANGE500 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Baldyman said: They don’t JUST bankroll a business losing £300k per week ! They RUN a business losing £300k a week ! It’s down to them ! Why do so many Lansdown supporters constantly disassociate them from the losses ? There’s just no logic to that ! In 20/21 you may recall the stadium was closed to the public therefore any revenue was severely reduced but the salaries which you would estimate run into £millions each month and the operating costs still have to be paid that may explain why the loses have ben so high quite logical really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Based upon what happened after the last sacking of a long-term Bristol City manager, I would expect to see a long drawn-out recruitment process of interviews, boardroom debates and discussions, lasting at least 4 weeks, finally cumulating with Curtis Fleming being unveiled as the next manager. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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