Next Head Coach

[MC RISK77]

41 minutes ago, petehinton said:

John Eustace
 

How depressing

Or why not give him a chance, this whole situation is not his doing.

[ExiledAjax]

14 minutes ago, RobinTuga said:

I feel like it's a little bit of both, I think he did very well to hang on with the Hollywood money over at Wrexham in the NL but realistically those two teams were clearly at least a step above the others, and that might be putting it mildly.

Not that it matters much now since it looks like Eustace is the guy.

And, I think Eustace probably did have Birmingham over performing the wage bill...maybe slightly?

He certainly got them to perform against a background of off the field chaos and incompetence, so that's probably a plus.

[Shauntaylor85]

32 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Incredibly uninspiring to go from Pearson to Eustace, if it is him. Nowhere near enough on his CV to justify the switch.

LJ the second. What SL knows best 

3 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said:

Or why not give him a chance, this whole situation is not his doing.

Not his fault but he’s on to a hiding if he has a bad start. Good luck. 

[Merrick's Marvels]

28 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Well if there's anyone with more chance of getting us up than Nige it's the bloke with a single season of managerial experience above conference level where he finished 17th in the championship.

Tbf, he did well to get Birmingham to 17th, with the state they were in.

Nevertheless, I'm struggling to see how he's an upgrade from a footballing perspective. 

[IAmNick]

3 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Tbf, he did well to get Birmingham to 17th, with the state they were in.

Nevertheless, I'm struggling to see how he's an upgrade from a footballing perspective. 

Absolutely.

Of the three names initially mentioned he'd be my preference and I'll support him if he gets the job, it's just in the context of the comments around Pearson's sacking that I'm struggling with!

[Baba Yaga]

Not the most exciting pick but can understand why you would go for Eustace, someone who has good knowledge of the division and has worked with a limited budget. It does look like from interviews and brum fans opinions that they had formed a strong team spirit there, hopefully that wasn't a one off.

Don't remember the football being particularly great back in August but same with most champ teams and they clearly outplayed us especially 2nd half if I recall. Would be interested to know whether he played many academy players in the last year because I think he will have to here? 

Also hope the ownership can drop their disappearing act as well that might help the rest of the staff to have a better chance of succeeding this time around, after avoiding the last manager I hope every effort is made to make Eustace a success.

[Merrick's Marvels]

5 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Absolutely.

Of the three names initially mentioned he'd be my preference and I'll support him if he gets the job, it's just in the context of the comments around Pearson's sacking that I'm struggling with!

[bristol red]

Pearson was absolutely stitched up and I sadly won’t be stepping into Ashton Gate again until I hear something from the club that fully justifies the sacking of Nigel and his team. I am not fooled by the two poorly edited video posts from the two clowns earlier today. Someone grow a pair of balls and put yourself in front of the fans and press for a proper Q&A session. Unfortunately this won’t happen. So good luck Mr Eustace you will need it!! Really hope the players decide to play for you.

[exAtyeoMax]

23 minutes ago, mason said:

So it seems all is fine now, short memories some posters, we still have 2 fools in charge; far from the end, just the start of another roundabout that goes no-where

what are we supposed to do though? 

[bcfc01]

So, currently ruled out;

Eustace, Williams, Rowett

Any others ?

[richwwtk]

22 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

So, currently ruled out;

Eustace, Williams, Rowett

Any others ?

Why is Wiliams ruled out? Did I miss that bit?

[Merrick's Marvels]

Just now, richwwtk said:

Why is Wiliams ruled out? Did I miss that bit?

The mighty Shags

[bcfc01]

Just now, richwwtk said:

Why is Wiliams ruled out? Did I miss that bit?

Either Shags or Kid stated he was 100% not in the running.

[richwwtk]

16 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Either Shags or Kid stated he was 100% not in the running.

Shags also implied Rowett was the choice as he was the only one we spoke to before sacking Pearson. KITR obviously has some knowledge, but is often far from correct.

I think they would both admit they are not always 100%, no matter how much faith some people place in them

[Mr Popodopolous]

18 hours ago, mason said:

Do something or do nothing, something= tennis balls on pitch,shout/sing abuse at SL/JL, dont go, go but arrive late/leave earlier,protest banners,buy nothing inside ground,many other suggestions made elsewhere; or do nothing= sit down shut up, dont post another word against SL/JL except let them know its ok to carry on and do just what they like.

Me I have followed my club all over since 66/67 but I will not pay to watch with these 2 taking us around and around; build/sell/knockdown and repeat; living now in the hope they will soon take themselves and BS far away.

Many chances have been and gone since SC but they constantly shy away from taking that final step, preferring to sell the best/change managers rather than make the step up.

FFP has been a factor at various times, the question is risk v reward too.

Then how long can you block the path of a player when a PL club comes in before they become disgruntled.

[gamon]

Day 3 no appointment?

Not going well is it.

[Mr Popodopolous]

Maybe it'll be some blockbuster appointment that none of us see coming. One of the folllowing:

Bielsa, Hassenhuttl, Lopetegui or Potter.

I'd still think Pearson merited the opportunity to see what be could do with some money medium to long term and as injuries returned hopefully short term, at least 3 of those are out of work.

In practice though would any of those remotely be happy to work under Tinnion for one.

Whether I believe any of the above, of just trying to post positivity to lighten the mood..

I imagine it'll be someone uninspiring, inexperienced or both.

Edited November 1, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Hazelboy]

3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Maybe it'll be some blockbuster appointment that none of us see coming. One of the folllowing:

Bielsa, Hassenhuttl, Lopetegui or Potter.

I'd still think Pearson merited the opportunity to see what be could do with some money medium to long term and as injuries returned hopefully short term, at least 3 of those are out of work.

In practice though would any of those remotely be happy to work under Tinnion for one.

I'd confidently like to add these 4 to the 'out of the running' list please.

[Mr Popodopolous]

6 minutes ago, Hazelboy said:

I'd confidently like to add these 4 to the 'out of the running' list please.

Oh please do!

Would shake the malaise just a bit, but yeah..feels like we need something big but can't see it.

Club just feels in a rut atm. Drift and now best manager we've had in years has been sacked senselessly.

Edited November 1, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Wade Wilson]

Why do people keep mentioning Potter? He was linked to Napoli recently. There’s wishful thinking and then there’s “Yeah, I reckon I could land a plane. Easy.” 

[Sir Geoff]

I'm getting the impression the longer this goes on that Tinnion's cunning plan has backfired somewhat. If you are going to have the 'balls' to sack a manager that everyone apart from you can see is doing a good job in difficult circumstances at least have a coach lined up to announce as his replacement. To leave a void leading up to two crucial fixtures (lose them and we are looking well and truly downwards) is downright negligent.

As someone on another thread said, if I was Curtis Fleming I would do the press conference for the Wednesday game, tell it how it is and then tell the Lansdowns to stick their club where the sun don't shine.

[Bedred31]

36 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Maybe it'll be some blockbuster appointment that none of us see coming. One of the folllowing:

Bielsa, Hassenhuttl, Lopetegui or Potter.

I'd still think Pearson merited the opportunity to see what be could do with some money medium to long term and as injuries returned hopefully short term, at least 3 of those are out of work.

In practice though would any of those remotely be happy to work under Tinnion for one.

Whether I believe any of the above, of just trying to post positivity to lighten the mood..

I imagine it'll be someone uninspiring, inexperienced or both.

It’s like a monstrous edition of the Masked Singer. Jonathan Ross guesses Taylor Swift or Beyoncé, but it always turns out to be the barmaid from Emmerdale.

[Mr Popodopolous]

46 minutes ago, mason said:

Brighton; 7th in prem, well established

Brentford 10th prem, play some good stuff

C Palace in prem; didnt we beat them in the play offs once

Forest; just F.F.S how have they left us behind

Wolves; werent we right up behind them near the top of the championship once.

Wont mention the likes of Bournemouth/Burnley who we played regularly on there way up to the top div.

Point being ffp or not we should be up there with these teams right now; as for the players, if we were up challenging the top six and top 2 for a season or two they wouldnt be in such a rush to join Bournemouth etc as they would see we were seriously making a challenge ourselves.

We lack ambition and SL`s poor judgements have us going around and around, it wont make any difference, who ever takes over as manager, as we will cash in on our best players and get only the same promises of better things to come.......................

                                                                                                                                           

                                     

Let's forget Bournemouth for a moment, they went up in breach in 2015 and benefited from PL and Parachute Payments ever since. Thereby smoothing their path back up.

Nottingham Forest are historically a bigger club, won the playoffs. Well done- we never quite pushed it to the level but was quite important that they went up.

Crystal Palace are probably historically bigger than us. The big fail was Hull 2008 but more accurately the failure to strengthen correctly in January 2008 when flying.

Burnley, hit on the crest of a wave in 2009 and unlike when we hit the wall after losing a Cup semi final in 2018, they actually went on and won the playoffs that season.

Thereafter Parachute Payments and PL money have helped them greatly, superbly run too for a good chunk of that period.

Brighton and Brentford did well. Are impressive, Brighton for their infrastructure in place some time before us.

Brentford I dunno, traded excellently..but then the players they signed we could have signed, they were not that expensive a lot of them or a vastly different profile.

Wolves are a historically bigger club but you might want to check again how they attracted some of those they did. We didn't have Mendes helping to supply players and an ex Valencia and Porto boss to help coach them!!

Our contacts in 2017 were what? Lee Johnson as head coach and who? Mark Ashton? Ffs.

Were we looking at players like Maupay, Benramha, Watkins, Jensen, Norgaard etc when they were affordable. Doubtful!

Pukki on a free to Norwich, Klich to Leeds why not to us.

Giving Lee Johnson the budget and letting him sign or even try and mould a lot of the players we had into a cohesive unit? Big mistake.

Edited November 1, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[GrahamC]

2 hours ago, Sir Geoff said:

I'm getting the impression the longer this goes on that Tinnion's cunning plan has backfired somewhat. If you are going to have the 'balls' to sack a manager that everyone apart from you can see is doing a good job in difficult circumstances at least have a coach lined up to announce as his replacement. To leave a void leading up to two crucial fixtures (lose them and we are looking well and truly downwards) is downright negligent.

As someone on another thread said, if I was Curtis Fleming I would do the press conference for the Wednesday game, tell it how it is and then tell the Lansdowns to stick their club where the sun don't shine.

Probably the first time in history Tinnion has ever featured in a sentence containing the word “cunning”.

Not the first time- Tinnion featuring in a sentence containing the word “dense”.

[Mr Popodopolous]

21 minutes ago, mason said:

Condensed version; SL has messed up with his choices, which is why they are where they are and we are still here, forever going around and around

Probably January 2008 the big opportunity when FFP didn't exist. Other than that..your post is somewhat reductive.

Why didn't we try and scout people like those I listed. Mind you perhaps Lee Johnson wouldn't have seen them flourish under his tenure.

Not entirely his blame, look at the Ashton Vale fiasco.

Edited November 1, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[RSW8]

John Mousinho at Portsmouth may be an option but I think we’ll struggle to prise him away…

[Sir Geoff]

37 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Probably the first time in history Tinnion has ever featured in a sentence containing the word “cunning”.

Not the first time- Tinnion featuring in a sentence containing the word “dense”.

I was going to replace Tinnion with Baldrick but guessed people may realise what a 'dense' decision maker I was talking about.

[AshtonGreat]

4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Maybe it'll be some blockbuster appointment that none of us see coming. One of the folllowing:

Bielsa, Hassenhuttl, Lopetegui or Potter.

I'd still think Pearson merited the opportunity to see what be could do with some money medium to long term and as injuries returned hopefully short term, at least 3 of those are out of work.

In practice though would any of those remotely be happy to work under Tinnion for one.

Whether I believe any of the above, of just trying to post positivity to lighten the mood..

I imagine it'll be someone uninspiring, inexperienced or both.

Bielsa manages Uruguay doesn't he?

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 hour ago, mason said:

You mean the fiasco where SL said along the lines of; redevelopment was out of the question and then redeveloped? asked for opinions on the new redeveloped Eastend Stand then did what he wanted anyway.

While I`m on was there ever any poll/meet/ discussion on the his dream of Bristol Sport or was that just because he could? asking for a friend.

We first went for Ashton Vale in 2007.

We had at least one public inquiry. Dunno if the 2nd was ever heard...how long should we have kept pushing on Ashton Vale? Almost 6 years between the announcement of plans and the Plan B. ie November 2007 to September or October 2013.

The redeveloped East End, I will have to look back at.

50 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

Bielsa manages Uruguay doesn't he?

Yes, good spot. Cross him and tbh them all off. It'll probably be someone uninspiring, vastly inexperienced or both.

[pongo88]

Here it is. No expense spared 

 

[Red Billy]

I think we will announce the new head coach late tomorrow or early Friday. With the line that Curtis will take the team on the weekend and the new coach will watching from the stands.  They don’t want to appoint to early as they would have to lead the team on the weekend and with the potential hostility best to let it simmer out a little.

[Open End Numb Legs]

52 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

Here it is. No expense spared 

 

Looks like the coach that Fletch and Godber get forced to break out of Slade Prison in, then sneak back inside with, in the Porridge movie. This is on topic as it was during a football match.

[bcfc01]

Well, Lampards out of the running now so thats 4 or 5 that we know won't be getting the job.

Give it another week and we'll know around 10-12 that won't be getting it.

But we probably still won't know who is actually getting the job..

[keflav]

Well what ever we do manager wise, just remember this is Bristol City prepared to be very underwhelmed.... its the Bristol City Way....

[Slack Bladder]

Whoever it is, we now know BT and JL both think this squad is good enough foe promotion.

So I guess we are looking for a miracle worker.

[Mr Popodopolous]

To be fair promotion can mean many things.

It can mean winning the title.

Finishing 2nd having been strong throughout.

A charge to 2nd, ie failing that comfortably 3rd or 4th and winning the playoffs.

Or scraping into the playoffs final day, 6th place and winning.

Much else in between as well.

I assume when they say promotion, they mean the lottery of the play-offs and winning them.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Barrs Court Red]

13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

To be fair promotion can mean many things.

It can mean winning the title.

Finishing 2nd having been strong throughout.

A charge to 2nd, ie failing that comfortably 3rd or 4th and winning the playoffs.

Or scraping into the playoffs final day, 6th place and winning.

Much else in between as well.

I assume when they say promotion, they mean the lottery of the playoffs.

Not really guv, promotion means promotion. It’s a tangible thing.  
 

They think this team should be in the Premier league next season. 

[Show Me The Money!]

Been giving this some thought and the club seem to have tried all kinds of different coaching setups so i think the only one left to try is the junior football coaching model where one of the players parents steps up into the role.

Thoughts? 

[Mr Popodopolous]

11 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Not really guv, promotion means promotion. It’s a tangible thing.  
 

They think this team should be in the Premier league next season. 

I honestly think the only chance for the foreseeable of promotion for a non Parachute Payments club will be the playoffs.

From 2019-20 to present, just 1 side has broken the top 2 who aren't in receipt of Parachute Payments which was Bielsa's Leeds in 2019-20.

Ipswich may yet split this but do they have the longevity. If not, Leeds especially will step up.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[bcfc01]

2 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Not really guv, promotion means promotion. It’s a tangible thing.  
 

They think this team should be in the Premier league next season. 

Jon been passing the waccy baccy around.

He's gonna get grounded by Dad when he finds out 

[TammyAB]

Maybe we're after Manning who has to serve a one-match ban this weekend anyway...

[Banjo Island]

23 hours ago, Hazelboy said:

I'd confidently like to add these 4 to the 'out of the running' list please.

Whilst adding luke williams wade elliot nathan jones and jamie mcallister to the in the running list

[Sir Geoff]

27 minutes ago, Show Me The Money! said:

Been giving this some thought and the club seem to have tried all kinds of different coaching setups so i think the only one left to try is the junior football coaching model where one of the players parents steps up into the role.

Thoughts? 

DaveFevs for me.

[BCFC Rich]

7 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

DaveFevs for me.

He's too busy working on his new murder mystery TV show. 

[aa_bcfc]

I’d go to the Brighton CEO and ask them for some advice on who to approach. They seem to make good manager/chief coach decisions. 

[miser]

2 minutes ago, aa_bcfc said:

I’d go to the Brighton CEO and ask them for some advice on who to approach. They seem to make good manager/chief coach decisions. 

 Bit like going to Lewis Hamilton to advise on a new family car.

[Redrascal2]

On 01/11/2023 at 15:39, Mr Popodopolous said:

Maybe it'll be some blockbuster appointment that none of us see coming. One of the folllowing:

Bielsa, Hassenhuttl, Lopetegui or Potter.

I'd still think Pearson merited the opportunity to see what be could do with some money medium to long term and as injuries returned hopefully short term, at least 3 of those are out of work.

In practice though would any of those remotely be happy to work under Tinnion for one.

Whether I believe any of the above, of just trying to post positivity to lighten the mood..

I imagine it'll be someone uninspiring, inexperienced or both.

I think your last sentence summed it up perfectly. 

 

[sludge]

Has anyone ITK ruled out Jamie McAllister yet?

 

[Cityboy1954]

On 31/10/2023 at 14:53, Finley_Smith10 said:

Don’t think they’re stupid enough to do that. Imagine the backlash 

True that would mean 60years down the swanee i couldnt put up with no more bedtime storys.

[Harry]

4 hours ago, Show Me The Money! said:

Been giving this some thought and the club seem to have tried all kinds of different coaching setups so i think the only one left to try is the junior football coaching model where one of the players parents steps up into the role.

Thoughts? 

Mickey Bell then …..

[Harry]

2 hours ago, sludge said:

Has anyone ITK ruled out Jamie McAllister yet?

 

Not yet. But didn’t he and Tinnion have a bit of a falling out over the transfer of Mini Mac to Hibs? 

[Andy082005]

Just asked the missus who she thinks will be the next City manager 

She thinks Steve Barnes …..

[RobinTuga]

27 minutes ago, Harry said:

Not yet. But didn’t he and Tinnion have a bit of a falling out over the transfer of Mini Mac to Hibs? 

I remember the snarky comment on twitter, was there anything else beyond that? Wouldn't think that would warrant an actual falling out but no clue if anything happened behind doors.

[Guest]

Don’t shoot the messenger but my money is on a foreign coach, probably German, I have no ITK knowledge other than I think it would be easier for a foreign coach to work under Tinnion.

I see a real problem for an English coach to agree to do that.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, RobinTuga said:

I remember the snarky comment on twitter, was there anything else beyond that? Wouldn't think that would warrant an actual falling out but no clue if anything happened behind doors.

He’s been back watching games at the HPC, but I don’t think he was invited in for a brew.

Would be very surprised if he was being considered.

[Mr Yoda]

German coaches.....Enrico Maaßen was sacked by Augsburg a week or two back. He was highly thought after at Dortmund before that. Would be really random mind.

[Open End Numb Legs]

9 minutes ago, Mr Yoda said:

German coaches.....Enrico Maaßen was sacked by Augsburg a week or two back. He was highly thought after at Dortmund before that. Would be really random mind.

Great keyboard work 

[Davefevs]

9 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

Great keyboard work 

Got one of those typewriters with a dodgy letter “B” on it.

[exAtyeoMax]

6 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I honestly think the only chance for the foreseeable of promotion for a non Parachute Payments club will be the playoffs.

From 2019-20 to present, just 1 side has broken the top 2 who aren't in receipt of Parachute Payments which was Bielsa's Leeds in 2019-20.

Ipswich may yet split this but do they have the longevity. If not, Leeds especially will step up.

to be honest the most likely scenario is us finishing 12th and everyone above us being disqualified 

[GrahamC]

36 minutes ago, Mr Yoda said:

German coaches.....Enrico Maaßen was sacked by Augsburg a week or two back. He was highly thought after at Dortmund before that. Would be really random mind.

Mainz sacked Bo Svensson today.

He was extremely highly rated there outperforming both Klopp & Tuchel in their spells there until this season.

I don’t know anywhere near enough about European coaches to have an expert view, but when Brighton appointed De Zerbi the other guy in the frame was at Bodo Glimt in Norway Kjetil Knudsen, he’s still there & they are running away with the league again..

Edited November 2, 2023 by GrahamC

[Kid in the Riot]

1 hour ago, Countryfile said:

Don’t shoot the messenger but my money is on a foreign coach, probably German

 

37 minutes ago, Mr Yoda said:

German coaches

Well done lads, correct country  

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 hour ago, Countryfile said:

Don’t shoot the messenger but my money is on a foreign coach, probably German, I have no ITK knowledge other than I think it would be easier for a foreign coach to work under Tinnion.

I see a real problem for an English coach to agree to do that.

Yes, the Director of Football role is more common in Europe. That could fit.

The question then is, does Tinnion have the range of contacts.  A European coach might want one or two he knows, from Europe.

Does he have the credibility in said foreign market?

Edited November 2, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Paul G]

10 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

 

Well done lads, correct country  

Interesting

[Paul G]

3 minutes ago, Paul G said:

Interesting

It must be Hansi Flick, and I hope it is just for the reference to Allo, Allo.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Paul G

[Davefevs]

52 minutes ago, Mr Yoda said:

German coaches.....Enrico Maaßen was sacked by Augsburg a week or two back. He was highly thought after at Dortmund before that. Would be really random mind.

Mercedes Benz?

[REDOXO]

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Mercedes Benz?

Versprung Durcht Technic Rodders 

[Ciderarmy23]

20 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

 

Well done lads, correct country  

Stefan Leitl?

[Ska Junkie]

3 minutes ago, Ciderarmy23 said:

Stefan Leitl?

I'll go for Uwe Rosler. Started the Brentford rise IIRC.

[Davefevs]

3 minutes ago, Ciderarmy23 said:

Stefan Leitl?

With Giefer as goalkeeping coach, Hegeler as Head of Analytics.

[Davefevs]

Just now, Ska Junkie said:

I'll go for Uwe Rosler. Started the Brentford rise IIRC.

I used to really rate Rosler, back in the LJ days, he was one I touted as a replacement.