Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 He’s not Ainsworth or Jones so that’s a good start. Whatever happens none of the shit leading up to this is his fault so I hope (if it is him) that fans will give him the support a new manager deserves despite our disappointment with the way NP was treated. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Okay, separating Eustace from Nige for a moment, and caveating that I really wish Nige was still here, it isn’t actually a bad choice on paper. He did well and was lauded for his football style at Kidderminster, so the Brum slightly more abrasive may have been horses for courses. I’m not dismissive of his 17th place finish last season as they were favourites to go down but he kept them up comfortably. Seemed also very well thought of by the squad there, and did start well this season - I thought at AG they played a bit less of a “spoiler” game than the prior season so it plays to the theory that he adapts dependent on what he has. Hes familiar with the division and will know some of the players from Ireland. Hes not Nige, who I’d rather have. It’s still Lansdowns out. It’s still Tinnion out. But my feeling is we could have been saddled with a lot worse Entirely my take. Last time pre Nige we got Dean Holden, this very clearly would not be that. Agred 100% with new ownership needed asap & Tinnion to leave with them, too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said: So it would seem that Nige's replacement was lined up before he was pushed out. I’d prefer this though. Even if I didn’t agree with the sacking, or the person they replace him with it at least suggests some thought has gone into and a plan. If they’d sacked him just because, then decided to do the search it would suggest a knee jerk reaction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Okay, separating Eustace from Nige for a moment, and caveating that I really wish Nige was still here, it isn’t actually a bad choice on paper. He did well and was lauded for his football style at Kidderminster, so the Brum slightly more abrasive may have been horses for courses. I’m not dismissive of his 17th place finish last season as they were favourites to go down but he kept them up comfortably. Seemed also very well thought of by the squad there, and did start well this season - I thought at AG they played a bit less of a “spoiler” game than the prior season so it plays to the theory that he adapts dependent on what he has. Hes familiar with the division and will know some of the players from Ireland. Hes not Nige, who I’d rather have. It’s still Lansdowns out. It’s still Tinnion out. But my feeling is we could have been saddled with a lot worse Certainty can’t blame him for taking the job but I’ve got little respect for anyone who would come to us and work under the parameters set out by us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Okay, separating Eustace from Nige for a moment, and caveating that I really wish Nige was still here, it isn’t actually a bad choice on paper. He did well and was lauded for his football style at Kidderminster, so the Brum slightly more abrasive may have been horses for courses. I’m not dismissive of his 17th place finish last season as they were favourites to go down but he kept them up comfortably. Seemed also very well thought of by the squad there, and did start well this season - I thought at AG they played a bit less of a “spoiler” game than the prior season so it plays to the theory that he adapts dependent on what he has. Hes familiar with the division and will know some of the players from Ireland. Hes not Nige, who I’d rather have. It’s still Lansdowns out. It’s still Tinnion out. But my feeling is we could have been saddled with a lot worse Don't disagree but the fact you had to write 'he did well at Kidderminster' rather sums up the whole farce 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, ralphindevon said: Those remembering his team beating us earlier this season may be forget that was the game a few of our players forgot how to pass a ball more than 3 yards. Plus from the few I’ve spoken to, the Birmingham fans seem more angry at who he was dumped for more than just him being dumped Watched us at their place last season. They played us off the park there tbf as well although again we were absolutely awful that day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atyeo's lift Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, maxjak said: If this is true? What a let down. A club like ours should be casting its net widely all over Europe to find a young progressive tracksuit coach, like a Farke or Frank type (Yes i know that is a cliche).....but that is exactly what this club needs? Instead we take the easy option off of the merry go round of sacked managers.....no ambition no foresight? If we were intending to get rid of NP, why didn't we spend a few months looking at possible replacements, vetting them, researching them, and talking to candidates? Instead it's a case of who's out of job, and is gonna be grateful to be employed, and lets make sure he is a YES man who won't upset anyone? It is all so very tedious IMO. Don't forget, BT doesn't speak foreign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: Best of a bad bunch I suppose. But, a downgrade on Pearson, so an utterly pointless change. If it matters, he is younger and fitter. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, maxjak said: If this is true? What a let down. A club like ours should be casting its net widely all over Europe to find a young progressive tracksuit coach, like a Farke or Frank type (Yes i know that is a cliche).....but that is exactly what this club needs? Instead we take the easy option off of the merry go round of sacked managers.....no ambition no foresight? If we were intending to get rid of NP, why didn't we spend a few months looking at possible replacements, vetting them, researching them, and talking to candidates? Instead it's a case of who's out of job, and is gonna be grateful to be employed, and lets make sure he is a YES man who won't upset anyone? It is all so very tedious IMO. You realise Thomas Frank was promoted from assistant at Brentford having moved into assistant roles from a manager role at a lower standard of football? Not really dissimilar to Eustace when Birmingham appointed him. He might prove to be the wrong man but it feels people are simultaneously trying to paint Eustace as an untested coach who lacks experience or a tired, obvious appointment who has serially failed elsewhere. He can only be one of those two things and the former is far closer than the latter. When Birmingham appointed him, he WAS a gamble on a young progressive coach a la Frank or Farke. He might not be as good as those - far too early to tell as both of those coaches were mid-table in their first seasons in the Championship - but I’m not sure a year in the Championship has turned Eustace into a the washed up has-been you seem to think. Edited October 31, 2023 by LondonBristolian 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterstoke toad Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 I’ll get behind him if it’s true but how underwhelming sacking big nige for someone who’s just gonna be another lansdown yes man and eventually scapegoat . I wish him all the best if we make him manager but this appointment leaves me so disinterested in the club whilst it’s run by the lansdowns , we’ll never have any proper success under them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Good luck John. Nothing but promotion will do this season. Edited October 31, 2023 by W-S-M Seagull 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Most Brum forum posters wishing him well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziderarmy Posted October 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 I feel sorry for him. He’s on a complete hiding to nothing. Be amazed if he is still here at the start of the next season. Poisoned chalice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 They obviously want him in for the "winnable" game at the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 So we get rid of a massively experienced manager, who had laid the foundations through his planning and foresight towards our future, and despite having one hand tied behind his back, due to no budget to replace losing quality players, and a coach load of injured first teamers, he produces a team who fight for each other, and once the injured return, will have a team of winners................and replace him with some bloke that that they found at a Midlands bus stop? Hallelujah! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capman Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 So can someone more intelligent explain this to me? Having sacked Pearson two days ago and having said today we have a clear idea of what we want we have completed a complete review of all the best candidates, interviewed the best of them and concluded who is the right person within 48 hours? Or could it be that in order to try and move the conversation on, deflect attention from the board and protect Jon from further criticism the first credible candidate who is both cheap and available has been appointed in the random hope that it might not be catastrophic? This might work, but it probably won’t and if it does it is just blind luck. This is an incompetent board following one bad decision with another. The club has become a cluster fudge. Steve, step up, do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 https://luorns.substack.com/p/john-eustace-captain-leader-legend?r=1b89vy&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) All still feels a bit raw at the moment to be honest and this appointment doesn’t feel me with any real optimism or positivity. Eustace has limited experience and wasn’t any better than Pearson last season. Cannot get my head around the Lansdown’s. Pissed me right off. Even the recent Instagram post from the club with the players training has pissed me off. It probably isn’t / doesn’t but even that seems a dig at Pearson. I hope for Eustace’s sake he hits the ground running and we finish in the top 6. Edited October 31, 2023 by Engvall’s Splinter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimpton Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 He is very highly rated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterstoke toad Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Kimpton said: He is very highly rated By who ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Presumably Tinnion has identified that Birmingham had an incredibly injury-free squad last season? As that's his bullsh1t excuse for sacking Pearson/Rennie and I can't think of a single reason why this bloke's an upgrade in any other respect on what he already had. Any stattos confirm Brum's injury record last year? Thanking you in advance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmo Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Lets be real, football fans are inpatient at the best of times these days, but given the circumstances of the last few days at this club, the new manager will have to hit the ground running. Massive pressure on whoever comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kimpton said: He is very highly rated Is he also a great human? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: You realise Thomas Frank was promoted from assistant at Brentford having moved into assistant roles from a manager role at a lower standard of football? Not really dissimilar to Eustace when Birmingham appointed him. He might prove to be the wrong man but it feels people are simultaneously trying to paint Eustace as an untested coach who lacks experience or a tired, obvious appointment who has serially failed elsewhere. He can only be one of those two things and the former is far closer than the latter. When Birmingham appointed him, he WAS a gamble on a young progressive coach a la Frank or Farke. He might not be as good as those - far too early to tell as both of those coaches were mid-table in their first seasons in the Championship - but I’m not sure a year in the Championship has turned Eustace into a the washed up has-been you seem to think. I don't believe he is a washed up "has been" but i do believe that he is not an upgrade on our former manager. But i am more than happy to be proved wrong, ultimately i support the team, and he is not someone who fills me with hope or excitement? He has no track record of any consequence, and i believe he is a typically easy option by the Lansdowns. I wish him well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Predicable, boring, pointless Three of the Bristol City "pillars" those clowns love to talk about do much. John Eustace is absolutely wasting his time coming here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristol red Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Been interesting to see who they appoint to replace Rennie… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, cheese said: https://luorns.substack.com/p/john-eustace-captain-leader-legend?r=1b89vy&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web Yes, you can find lots of impressive stuff about his character on the internet. Sounds like a good bloke. But can he win promotion? Because that's apparently the only yardstick to be used. Edited October 31, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Was chatting to a Blues fan earlier who knows his stuff and he absolutely loved Eustace, said we should be delighted if we get him. I’m far from convinced, and would have Nige over him every day of the week, but it sounds like we could have done worse based on what my mate said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 It's Eustace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Quote from the link above: ‘The model at Kidderminster was to develop top young players and move them on. Our recruitment was through academies. You’re released by clubs [at a higher level] and then given a chance to go full-time with us, so first of all you’ve got to handle that these kids thought they were going to become top players and it didn’t work out. But then you’ve got to impart knowledge on them to help them bounce back and we did that particularly well because in the time since probably about 20 players have gone back into the league. John is a great galvaniser of young men.’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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