RedLionLad Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, kit said: I also remeber a couple of back to back beatings under Wilson, maybe colchester and Bournemouth, 4 nils or similar, I also remember a big loss at peterborough in the same season. Blackpool away where we needed to win to make the play offs and promptly got spanked by 5 or so. The more I think about it wilson did serve up some absolute garbage at times that was way worse than today as bad as it was. Our resident know-it-all won’t agree with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: We were promoted with Watford, and we spent millions in the summer on those signings. We finished bottom of the table. Watford spent £300k, finished second, and were promoted to the Prem. Awful wasn't it. Actually felt sorry for Scott Davidson. He started the season with real ambition at least. When Ward walked, it all went downhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Just now, Kid in the Riot said: We were promoted with Watford, and we spent millions in the summer on those signings. We finished bottom of the table. Watford spent £300k, finished second, and were promoted to the Prem. There’s ambition & there’s complete confusion. We paid a million on Thorpe, a third division striker that we didn’t remotely need (we already had Akinbiyi, Andersen, Cramb & Torpey). Our only defensive acquisition was Julian Watts, a terrible CB who made Jamie McCombe look like Franco Baresi on the ball. John Ward’s idea of a Championship midfield was to pair Matt Hewlett with Carl Hutchings a third division defender who ran around a lot to no effect trying to control the ball, he made Carlton Palmer look like Glenn Hoddle. Ward never managed at Championship level again after we sacked him (can’t think why). Lennartsson who expected to be Director of Football then was asked to become Head Coach & added a random assortment of foreign players seemingly without a plan, Bo Anderson was the shortest Dane I have ever seen, unfortunately he was a goalkeeper, Vilmos Sebok was good on the ball but seemed not to like defending, unfortunately we played him at CB (he was sweeper for Hungary) & Testimitanu who was the only one with any guts, got badly injured soon after signing. A absolute shambles of a season where we finished 24th, the season after going up neck & neck with Watford. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, ZiderEyed said: 3-0 at home to Sheffield Wednesday or Millwall, can’t recall which, only that it was David James’ first game for the club. Direeeeee. Millwall. I remember it well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Last word on the game tonight (as it was rubbish). Why does LM always do the same subs in essence. Wells/Cornick or Conway or vice versa. Bell for Mehmeti or vice versa. Williams/James/TGH rotating. We never seem to change the formation up top. Conway is not a line leader. But maybe play Wells alongside him for once, do something different. I know we've gone to a back 5 at times recently (Bell at Rwb). But jees, 30 goals on 26 games (take away the 7 of Hull & Watford and that's 23 in 25 games). We have to do things differently at times. All for the players being "brave", but that applies to the management as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, Northern Red said: Christ this place is a mess after a defeat. It's not even the worst this season FFS. I'd even say its been our best game this year Edited January 1 by transfer reader 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Grimsby were the 3rd side that year, went up in the playoffs in 1997-98. Stayed up comfortably in the 2nd tier..may even have had a tilt at playoffs not sure but definitely weren't at serious risk of the drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 15 minutes ago, GrahamC said: There’s ambition & there’s complete confusion. We paid a million on Thorpe, a third division striker that we didn’t remotely need (we already had Akinbiyi, Andersen, Cramb & Torpey). Our only defensive acquisition was Julian Watts, a terrible CB who made Jamie McCombe look like Franco Baresi on the ball. John Ward’s idea of a Championship midfield was to pair Matt Hewlett with Carl Hutchings a third division defender who ran around a lot to no effect trying to control the ball, he made Carlton Palmer look like Glenn Hoddle. Ward never managed at Championship level again after we sacked him (can’t think why). Lennartsson who expected to be Director of Football then was asked to become Head Coach & added a random assortment of foreign players seemingly without a plan, Bo Anderson was the shortest Dane I have ever seen, unfortunately he was a goalkeeper, Vilmos Sebok was good on the ball but seemed not to like defending, unfortunately we played him at CB (he was sweeper for Hungary) & Testimitanu who was the only one with any guts, got badly injured soon after signing. A absolute shambles of a season where we finished 24th, the season after going up neck & neck with Watford. Yep. Bit of a sliding doors moment with Watford who went on to enjoy plenty of Prem football and cup finals over the next 20 years, whilst we have pissed around in L1 / Championship. Bearing in mind they don't really have more resources than us, and their ownership is generally considered batshit. Similar to the 2004 play off final with Brighton too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: Last word on the game tonight (as it was rubbish). Why does LM always do the same subs in essence. Wells/Cornick or Conway or vice versa. Bell for Mehmeti or vice versa. Williams/James/TGH rotating. We never seem to change the formation up top. Conway is not a line leader. But maybe play Wells alongside him for once, do something different. I know we've gone to a back 5 at times recently (Bell at Rwb). But jees, 30 goals on 26 games (take away the 7 of Hull & Watford and that's 23 in 25 games). We have to do things differently at times. All for the players being "brave", but that applies to the management as well. Suppose he would argue he basically only has 15 players. Clearly not having Cornick (didn’t get on at Brum, only did so today because Sykes was injured). Effectively means it is 2 from 3 of Williams, James, TGH. Wells or Conway & then one of Weimann, Bell or Mehmeti (he’s sticking with the latter). Look at the rest of the subs Knight-Lebel (appeared once in 17) Nelson (never come on), King 35 & no way is he on the bench in February unless we have injuries. Bajic. His options are limited, no idea where Yeboah was today but he’s raw & incredibly erratic & I’m not sure Manning (who has only brought him on once) thinks he’s anywhere near ready. You would have to think a couple of returners & 2 signings will see a different bench by the end of the month. Just now, Kid in the Riot said: Yep. Bit of a sliding doors moment with Watford who went on to enjoy plenty of Prem football and cup finals over the next 20 years, whilst we have pissed around in L1 / Championship. Bearing in mind they don't really have more resources than us, and their ownership is generally considered batshit. Similar to the 2004 play off final with Brighton too. Think this predated the Italians, still Elton wasn’t it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Think this predated the Italians, still Elton wasn’t it? It was. Though he sold in 2002, so everything since then... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Dosen't have to be a 4/0 hammering to be disappointing. Can remember a News year Eve when i talked a load of lads to come up to the City from South Devon for the New years day game. About 4 car loads of us came up ,it was in the third tier late 90s. Cant even remember who we played but we were in the Atyeo and it was a ****** boring 0/0 . As you can imagine the stick i got on the way back was off the scale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 12 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Yep. Bit of a sliding doors moment with Watford who went on to enjoy plenty of Prem football and cup finals over the next 20 years, whilst we have pissed around in L1 / Championship. Bearing in mind they don't really have more resources than us, and their ownership is generally considered batshit. Similar to the 2004 play off final with Brighton too. We must be the only side in the country getting 22,000 fans in every other week yet not played in the Premier League 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Title says name any worse game than that Any time we lost to the gas ( remember them ) to all you younger city fans yes there was a time when they had the upper hand , Devon white , penrice , Holloway years ( bastards ) 3-0 at twerton ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 A game vs mk Don's at home a few years back was an embarrassment to football . So poor from both teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, pongo88 said: This was the most exciting part of the game https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/13040493/brawl-breaks-out-at-bristol-as-tensions-boil-over When I watched it live, I thought it was all Williams and could be even in trouble after the game if they review it, but watching again it looks like Williams just carries on going with the player up to the barrier, but the Millwall players tries to kick joe and that's when he kicks off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 22 minutes ago, luke_bristol said: We must be the only side in the country getting 22,000 fans in every other week yet not played in the Premier League Depends on timeframe, depends on how long, depends on attendances at time of non promotion- bit of a broad brush but know what you mean though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Anyone remember Wolves beating us 0-5 at AG? - Tony Fawthrop was in charge and played a diamond in midfield which Wolves just ran thru………that was another embarrassing performance……… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, Robbored said: Anyone remember Wolves beating us 0-5 at AG? - Tony Fawthrop was in charge and played a diamond in midfield which Wolves just ran thru………that was another embarrassing performance……… Tony Fawthrop literally never managed a game against Wolves, so no, I don’t remember that champ. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 54 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Yep. Bit of a sliding doors moment with Watford who went on to enjoy plenty of Prem football and cup finals over the next 20 years What ‘plenty’ cup finals are you highlighting here for Watford FC in the 20 year period from 1998 to 2018? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, Robbored said: Anyone remember Wolves beating us 0-5 at AG? - Tony Fawthrop was in charge and played a diamond in midfield which Wolves just ran thru………that was another embarrassing performance……… Are you sure you don’t mean the 1-6 Wolves debacle under Benny? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Are you sure you don’t mean the 1-6 Wolves debacle under Benny? Could be - it was around 30 years ago. 1993/4 iirc. I struggle to remember individual seasons so I’m guessing a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, johnheadbcfc said: That Cardiff game christ thay was bad Paper planes though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Losing 5-1 at Blackpool in the early 2000s and 7-0 at Swansea in Tinnion’s last game as manager were both truly dreadful games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 54 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: What ‘plenty’ cup finals are you highlighting here for Watford FC in the 20 year period from 1998 to 2018? One FA cup final....fair enough. They must have been to a couple of semis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 46 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Paper planes though. If you catch me on the border I've got visas in my name 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Quite a few home games under LJ were a carbon copy of the Millwall game. (Usually Preston home matches). Losing 2-0 at home to Charlton on a Sunday in late 2012 I can recall also being truly terrible, along with the 6-0 vs Cardiff and many many other home matches between 2010 - 2013 in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 7 hours ago, Robbored said: Could be - it was around 30 years ago. 1993/4 iirc. I struggle to remember individual seasons so I’m guessing a bit. 1994/95 we lost 5-1 at home to Wolves under Russell Osman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 Think a few of you misunderstood the question. I was saying it was the worse performance in a while, that clearly wasn’t the case. I was saying it was the worse all round experience for a long time. Even some of the games mentioned, 6-0 home loss to Cardiff for example, at least there was an atmosphere, albeit hostile. People showed they cared. Yesterday there was nothing, absolutely nothing. Performance was shocking, the atmosphere was nonexistent. I don’t remember one chant being sung. It was a chore for everyone that was there, players included. If you had gone down for the first time ever yesterday, I don’t you’d be in any rush to return at any point! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 I give you watching us let in 7 at Northampton in the early '80s, travelling up to Tranmere on a Friday night in '89 to watch us lose 6-0 and every game against Rovers in the 1980's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 it may not have been the worst game, but it's the first time since the Lincoln game that I have walked out of AG actually shocked at what I have just witnessed. At least against Lincoln we scored, won the second half iirc, and Semenyo missed a couple of 'sitters' from inside the 6 yard box that may have changed the course of the game. Yesterday there was absolutely nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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