Superjack Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Just now, fgrsimon said: It would actually help if he (LM) actually explained specificall in plain English what he actually means when he says 'emotions', 'processes', 'chasing outcomes' etc. They're just nebulous words/phrases that could mean just about anything Buzzwords. The only buzz about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 18 Admin Report Share Posted March 18 For anyone who miss the show https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hfqdy5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 23 minutes ago, eardun said: Agree with this and as Piercy said it was daft expecting Manning to do the club leadership role. We’re lacking a senior, focused, visible football club CEO focused on just City. Someone who is also a good communicator. We may have been OK if Gould had stayed. We don’t know why Alexander left, but even if we concluded that he wasn’t the right person for the job, we could have replaced him. Marshall is not just focused on City - he has a wider Bristol Sport role, plus he is not as visible as Gould was. Personally, at this point, I would spend some money on sorting the leadership role rather than rush to sack Manning. Otherwise, the structure won’t work for his replacement either. Which one of GO or JP brought up Alexander…because it’s a huge loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 29 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: In all seriousness i’m not sure - I imagine what he’s really saying is he wants players to work to a game plan regardless of external factors. Hmmm…….so your football knowledge is as basic as mine…………… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Robbored said: I don’t think Owers quite understands what ‘emotions’ in Manning speak actually is. Nobody does... literally nobody 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) 22 minutes ago, glynriley said: Owers comes across just like a city fan. Pretty sure he’s got Manning pegged as a bluffer as well. Spot on Glyn. He can see right thru Manning but is subtle about it - just listen to him RB after a AG match. Edited March 18 by Robbored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Which one of GO or JP brought up Alexander…because it’s a huge loss. GOs I think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 35 minutes ago, Street red said: Plus those clubs haven't got a Bristol sport franchise hanging over there heads with rugby and basketball,That's the difference if he solely concentrated on Bristol city football club instead of being Barcelona then maybe just maybe we would of made it by now. Yeah how about actually finishing one project…. Neither the rugby or football club have got their potential. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, The turtle said: Nobody does... literally nobody On 05/03/2024 at 22:49, Pezo said: I would love him to elaborate a bit more and explain what that means on the pitch, did it mean we went to early or too late, did someone cry, or get angry? Does anyone know what the **** he is on about? I would prefer that he just talked about emotions to a different interviewer, preferably one at a club in a league where he is more suited like the conference. Yatzee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Is someone internal really briefing against him, or is this assumption? Zero class if the former. At this moment in time I could easily say he has 8 games to save his job, and that wouldn’t need someone feeding me titbits…it’s bloody obvious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, CyderInACan said: Can’t tune in so updates would be great Piercy said, the atmosphere down the ground is stopping the players from playing, and even stopping Manning from coaching how he wants to coach. So, it's our fault. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Which one of GO or JP brought up Alexander…because it’s a huge loss. According to the hierarchy at AG it was soon realised that there wasn’t actually anything for Alexander to do - Junior had taken on the role. Edited March 18 by Robbored 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Piercy said, the atmosphere down the ground is stopping the players from playing, and even stopping Manning from coaching how he wants to coach. So, it's our fault. What atmosphere? Is there an atmosphere nowadays? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Williams Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, Superjack said: What atmosphere? Is there an atmosphere nowadays? Mostly groaning rather than anything overly negative or positive for that matter, though I have to say I’ve had my moments of groaning quite loudly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Just now, Feral Williams said: Mostly groaning rather than anything overly negative or positive for that matter, though I have to say I’ve had my moments of groaning quite loudly Thanks. I didn't ask about your personal life though. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: I'm a fan of Piercy , his recent article was very good , Owers is always sensible and interesting . But I have to give credit to the presenter, that was the best show for some time, definitely since JT left. I'd love them to do this sort of thing once a month or so. I've always got the impression that the presenter is a city fan. I'm sure I remember him doing temporary stints several years ago. I quite like him, but obs GT is a near impossible act to follow. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 7 minutes ago, Robbored said: According to the hierarchy at AG it was soon realised that there wasn’t actually anything for Alexander to do - Junior had taken on the role. Im not sure what alexanders role was in terms of day to day, though the footballing royalty comment did for him, but certainly goulds loss was massive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Which one of GO or JP brought up Alexander…because it’s a huge loss. GO. But it was JP who called out there is a leadership vacuum and it was unrealistic to expect Manning, a 38 year old head coach, to perform that club leadership/communication role as well as his coaching duties. P.S. PA wasn’t visible so I’m not saying he was the right person; just replace him though rather than bin off the role. Edited March 18 by eardun 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 16 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Piercy said, the atmosphere down the ground is stopping the players from playing, and even stopping Manning from coaching how he wants to coach. So, it's our fault. No. He didn’t say it was our fault. He said the atmosphere has been building since Pearson was sacked. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 12 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said: I've always got the impression that the presenter is a city fan. I'm sure I remember him doing temporary stints several years ago. I quite like him, but obs GT is a near impossible act to follow. he is, for over 40 years, he said so himself on the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: No. He didn’t say it was our fault. He said the atmosphere has been building since Pearson was sacked. Which is true, I can't remember such a popular manager being sacked. I would estimate that at least 80% of the City support were against the sacking of Pearson. If you ran the poll again now, the number would be 95%. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: That’s he’s got 8 games to save his job. I find that hard to believe Dave. SL gives managers time as his support for LJ tells us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 This deserves a catching title thread so SL and BT read it (I am sure both come on here still). Best SOTC in a long time, two excellent people in JP and GO, have them on each week please. Clear as day they see through Manning. 20 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Im not sure what alexanders role was in terms of day to day, though the footballing royalty comment did for him, but certainly goulds loss was massive. Know someone linked to Palace and was raving about Alexander, couldn’t believe we moved him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, RollsRoyce said: I managed to tune into the last half hour. Some interesting points, and a few red herrings as well in my view. But they did touch on the area where I believe, others will disagree, that the club is lacking. Leadership. When they removed Nige they left the club with the following 4 key people. Marshall, Tinnion, Jon Lansdown and Manning. In isolation you would question each of those people to perform their roles, but in combination it is in my view a recipe for disaster. There is no strength or depth of ability in that set up, so when you do have say a Manning type come in, who is learning on the job, the rest of the structure is not sufficiently able to support and carry them. This would be true of any young inexperienced coach coming in. I personally detest how Manning wants to play football, but that is about preferences, others love that type of game plan. But you cannot move Manning out, and for me he must go he is so out of his depth, but you have to also look a all 4 of those key positions. I do not believe those 4 people would not be on any other Championship clubs blue print for success. It is also worth mentioning that in recent years it has been shown that some of our better periods have been with experienced managers, GJ/SC and to an extent in terms of stopping a L1 return NP. Strong personalities all 3 of them. As there is no other leadership at the club, those people have had to fill a void. Removing NP, and at the same time all of his key team members was reckless and demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of what elements are required to create success. That did not happen at Brentford, Luton or Brighton. They all evolved along a similar path. Manning has to go, the club is spiralling in one direction. But simply changing him for another young coach will risk the same outcome. Far cry from the partnership we briefly saw between Gould and Pearson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 That was an absolutely fantastic show. Would have been a bit better with some fan input but nevertheless it was a good listen. Although at times it felt like JP was trying to play down it was interesting to hear some snippets he gave from the written press interviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 8 minutes ago, Robbored said: I find that hard to believe Dave. SL gives managers time as his support for LJ tells us. You just can't help yourself, can you? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 18 Admin Report Share Posted March 18 13 minutes ago, Robbored said: I find that hard to believe Dave. SL gives managers time as his support for LJ tells us. Dean Holden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 I bet SL isnt too pleased wasting all that money on sacking NP and all his backroom staff then paying Oxford compensation to get in someone who clearly isn't ready for the job yet and looks like we will have to pay him off shortly as well. Well SL if you put you faith in JL and BT this is what you can expect those are the two that need replacing and get people in who know how to run a club properly. We would probably been in the premier league by now if you hadn't wasted so much money 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 What a great episode. Was there similar ones for Holden etc when GT was hosting? They seem spot on with a large portion of the feelings on here of frustration, unless there’s a huge turnaround the writing feels like it’s on the wall already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) The crux of the problem is Jon Lansdown. Nepotism never works. Lansdown senior needs to get his son out of there, appoint a top of the range CEO and let him run the club unfettered, including the appointment of an experienced Head of Football and possibly a new Head Coach, although I’d give Manning the benefit of the doubt with professional people around to support him. Edited March 18 by Malago 10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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