Admin phantom Posted February 13 Admin Report Share Posted February 13 15 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Atkinson done his hamstring again then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Tootle Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 On 10/02/2024 at 14:08, James54De said: Did he? He was seen in multiple training videos when Twine joined. Also worth pointing out that in terms of running was the fittest player in pre season in terms of the tests they have to do. That will hopefully be in his favour for his recovery. 6 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Surely something wrong with that HPC, the place has been nothing but a disaster with injuries. The clue is in the name...fail land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Tootle Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 On 10/02/2024 at 14:14, bcfc01 said: Own goal and Hutton. Another goal for Callum, Saturday and today. Is he still playing for Yate or was he recalled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Christ. How long is a typical hamstring injury?? It has been almost a year recurring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted February 13 Author Report Share Posted February 13 10 minutes ago, Davefevs said: One of the downsides to using Hamstring to replace ACL. Although I think Big Rob might’ve had issues historically??? Obviously I don't know the details behind this latest one, but the hamstring he did in November wasn't the leg they took the ligament from to replace the ACL. You are right that he has had problems with them throughout his career though. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 9 minutes ago, Tony Tootle said: Another goal for Callum, Saturday and today. Is he still playing for Yate or was he recalled? Churchley got our eqyaliser today??? 1-2 now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 13 Admin Report Share Posted February 13 22 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Surely something wrong with that HPC, the place has been nothing but a disaster with injuries. I'm sure that someone would know, but I wonder how many muscle injuries have happened at either AG8 of the HPC? Am I correct in saying that the two pitches are made of the same fibres etc to mirror each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 11 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Christ. How long is a typical hamstring injury?? It has been almost a year recurring. Depends on how severe it is. Weeks or months. However, even if it is a strain I think due to the amount of injuries he's had I'd be surprised he makes any first team minutes this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 13 Admin Report Share Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Churchley got our eqyaliser today??? 1-2 now Yeah, Kai equalised in the 54th minute Cian Ashford scored either side(32nd and 58th minute) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, phantom said: I'm sure that someone would know, but I wonder how many muscle injuries have happened at either AG8 of the HPC? Am I correct in saying that the two pitches are made of the same fibres etc to mirror each other? Hamstring Pull Centre.... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Hard to believe our injury track record in recent times.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, RedRoss said: Depends on how severe it is. Weeks or months. However, even if it is a strain I think due to the amount of injuries he's had I'd be surprised he makes any first team minutes this season. Thanks. Reinforces my view that we were definitely one light in the summer. You need 4 orthodox CBs and with Baker, Klose, Kalas out Dickie in let alone the Atkinson rolling injuries.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 30 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Surely something wrong with that HPC, the place has been nothing but a disaster with injuries. I'm sure it's the same grass as the gate. Far more seems to go wrong at the HPC though. Might need changing the turf up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 27 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Christ. How long is a typical hamstring injury?? It has been almost a year recurring. Done for the season I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Poor Rob, gotta feel for the big man. Looks like he might just have to write this season off and aim for a return to full fitness in time for pre-season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcdc Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, marmite said: I'm sure it's the same grass as the gate. Far more seems to go wrong at the HPC though. Might need changing the turf up there. Hardly surprising much more happens up at the HPC seeing the hours they are on the grass there compared to the comparative few spent at AG 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Tootle Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 31 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Churchley got our eqyaliser today??? 1-2 now Someone said Hutton in an earlier post which is what I was going off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 39 minutes ago, bcdc said: Hardly surprising much more happens up at the HPC seeing the hours they are on the grass there compared to the comparative few spent at AG Which is why it was so embarrassing for JL/Tinns to stick their head above the parapet and blame the prev medical staff for injuries, when 95% were in-game. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted February 13 Author Report Share Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, petehinton said: Which is why it was so embarrassing for JL/Tinns to stick their head above the parapet and blame the prev medical staff for injuries, when 95% were in-game. Unless of course they have more information than you do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, petehinton said: Which is why it was so embarrassing for JL/Tinns to stick their head above the parapet and blame the prev medical staff for injuries, when 95% were in-game. …was naive at best, and that’s being kind. Shit happens in football. +++++ Someone will confirm, I’m sure….but I believe he show pitch at the HPC is the same as the AG pitch. And from what I’m led to believe, they are built on very hard foundations, to ensure they are robust for multi-sport over a long shelf life. The cost of a pitch like this is more efficient than having to replace every summer over a comparable number of years. (add in replacing the pitch every summer might affect being able to have concerns??? Debate / Discuss) But I do think these pitches are a contributory factor. Does reducing the cost of pitch maintenance each year give the best outcome to losing a star player over a period of weeks? Its an interesting discussion! Pitches like Blackburn the top comes away, but I wonder what their injury record is? +++++ And yes I know Big Rob did his ACL away at Sunderland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 4 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Unless of course they have more information than you do? Course they do. But my point was a pretty public fact, really… Players being ‘rushed’ & whether that’s true or not, is another point altogether. Everyone will have a view point on that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 It will take a super human effort to return to championship football after all this time out, not even taking into account recurring injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Have we opted for a pitch at Ashton Gate that doesn't need renewing every summer because we want to maximise concert revenues during those months? If this extremely firm surface - replicated as it is at the training ground - is contributing towards our endless injuries, have we prioritised non-matchday revenue streams above player fitness? Cart before horse, if so. Although how our injury list compares to other clubs would be good to know. There must be data for it somewhere, there's data for everything these days - let's call it xi, expected injuries. What's our xi compared to others? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Have we opted for a pitch at Ashton Gate that doesn't need renewing every summer because we want to maximise concert revenues during those months? If this extremely firm surface - replicated as it is at the training ground - is contributing towards our endless injuries, have we prioritised non-matchday revenue streams above player fitness? Cart before horse, if so. Although how our injury list compares to other clubs would be good to know. There must be data for it somewhere, there's data for everything these days - let's call it xi, expected injuries. What's our xi compared to others? Our xi is 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityReds Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Davefevs said: …was naive at best, and that’s being kind. Shit happens in football. +++++ Someone will confirm, I’m sure….but I believe he show pitch at the HPC is the same as the AG pitch. And from what I’m led to believe, they are built on very hard foundations, to ensure they are robust for multi-sport over a long shelf life. The cost of a pitch like this is more efficient than having to replace every summer over a comparable number of years. (add in replacing the pitch every summer might affect being able to have concerns??? Debate / Discuss) But I do think these pitches are a contributory factor. Does reducing the cost of pitch maintenance each year give the best outcome to losing a star player over a period of weeks? Its an interesting discussion! Pitches like Blackburn the top comes away, but I wonder what their injury record is? +++++ And yes I know Big Rob did his ACL away at Sunderland. So the HPC and Ashton gate pitches are Desso Hybrid pitches, the synthetic fibres are plugged into the soil which helps promote root growth and strengthen the root beds. They’re prepared in the same way a full grass pitch is and is used in most of the major pitches in the world. AG, St James Park, Nou Camp, Old Trafford, San Siro, PSG, Twickenham and Wembley to name a few. Every year the organic grass is removed and relayed but the fibres will last 6-8 years. Edited February 13 by CityReds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityReds Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Have we opted for a pitch at Ashton Gate that doesn't need renewing every summer because we want to maximise concert revenues during those months? If this extremely firm surface - replicated as it is at the training ground - is contributing towards our endless injuries, have we prioritised non-matchday revenue streams above player fitness? Cart before horse, if so. Although how our injury list compares to other clubs would be good to know. There must be data for it somewhere, there's data for everything these days - let's call it xi, expected injuries. What's our xi compared to others? Couldn’t be further from the truth in reality 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, CityReds said: So the HPC and Ashton gate pitches are Desso Hybrid pitches, the synthetic fibres are plugged into the soil which helps promote root growth and strengthen the root beds. They’re prepared in the same way a full grass pitch is and is used in most of the major pitches in the world. AG, St James Park, Nou Camp, Old Trafford, San Siro, PSG, Twickenham and Wembley to name a few. Every year the organic grass is removed and relayed but the fibres will last 6-8 years. I thought we moved away from the Desso in the summer? Or did we replace the old Desso (end of life) with another new Desso? https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/ashton-gate-pitch-renovation-progress/ I was right we are now using another pitch type! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, CityReds said: So the HPC and Ashton gate pitches are Desso Hybrid pitches, the synthetic fibres are plugged into the soil which helps promote root growth and strengthen the root beds. They’re prepared in the same way a full grass pitch is and is used in most of the major pitches in the world. AG, St James Park, Nou Camp, Old Trafford, San Siro, PSG, Twickenham and Wembley to name a few. Every year the organic grass is removed and relayed but the fibres will last 6-8 years. It was completely renewed in the summer. I don’t think it’s desso anymore . It’s a different company I think. gutting for big rob & us obviously but it’s not unusual for players coming back from a ACL to have other injured. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Great minds SSN, and also gutting for Big Rob. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 23 minutes ago, Davefevs said: …was naive at best, and that’s being kind. Shit happens in football. +++++ Someone will confirm, I’m sure….but I believe he show pitch at the HPC is the same as the AG pitch. And from what I’m led to believe, they are built on very hard foundations, to ensure they are robust for multi-sport over a long shelf life. The cost of a pitch like this is more efficient than having to replace every summer over a comparable number of years. (add in replacing the pitch every summer might affect being able to have concerns??? Debate / Discuss) But I do think these pitches are a contributory factor. Does reducing the cost of pitch maintenance each year give the best outcome to losing a star player over a period of weeks? Its an interesting discussion! Pitches like Blackburn the top comes away, but I wonder what their injury record is? +++++ And yes I know Big Rob did his ACL away at Sunderland. Saw some odd stat that Deepdale is awful for player injuries too. IIRC Pearson was pretty pissed off at the state of it when we played their last season, and said it was a large contributor to Naismith’s injury because it was so soft. I have heard anecdotally, that players do really feel aches/pains a lot more after playing on heavier pitches as the modern day studs/blades don’t sink in as well as they used to, as they’re focused more on being lightweight on feet to help with speed etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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