Emphraim Yeboah

[old_eastender]

Under NP he was regularly getting game time coming on as a sub. He seemed to have real pace and although raw, posed a threat running at defenders. Thought he might become the latest to come good from the under 21s.

However, I think I'm right in saying he has got ZERO minutes under Manning, despite Sam Bell struggling and Mehmeti, although showing promise, not actually delivering any end product.

Anyone shed any light on what's happening with Yeboah? Thought I read on a another thread, something about Manning's comments on him?

[Rob k]

He’s probably seen what the majority of us have seen - he’s absolutely miles off being ready for the championship. And that’s no criticism of him either, he’s a young lad, he will be fine in time.

Edited December 10, 2023 by Rob k

[Northern Red]

To give an idea of just how young he is, I believe we aren't allowed to send him on loan elsewhere in the EFL because he's not 18 until next summer.

[Port Said Red]

From what I understand he is one of those players who doesn't look great in training, but obviously comes alive more in match situations. 

I would imagine that Manning's view of him so far is predicated on the former.

[bearded_red]

My theory, and it could be complete nonsense, is Nige loved throwing him on because Nige loved the pace and chaos he could provide even if there are currently elements of his game that are miles off Championship level. Manning it seems wants control, Yeboah at this point doesn’t provide that.

Personally, I think there is often a case for throwing in some pace and chaos late on in a game, and would like to see him get a run late on late on in games. Especially when, to be honest, I have absolutely no interest in watching Mehmeti take a million touches to achieve the square root of nothing.

[transfer reader]

He's very young still.

It could be that he's not picked up on some of the things LM wants to implement, it could be that it's seen as more beneficial for him to get more minutes at a youth level than 20 minutes in a game every third week.

There's a myriad of other potential reasons for it as well.

[Cityboy1954]

24 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

Under NP he was regularly getting game time coming on as a sub. He seemed to have real pace and although raw, posed a threat running at defenders. Thought he might become the latest to come good from the under 21s.

However, I think I'm right in saying he has got ZERO minutes under Manning, despite Sam Bell struggling and Mehmeti, although showing promise, not actually delivering any end product.

Anyone shed any light on what's happening with Yeboah? Thought I read on a another thread, something about Manning's comments on him?

Hes gone in to see him about lack of game time .

[W-S-M Seagull]

9 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

My theory, and it could be complete nonsense, is Nige loved throwing him on because Nige loved the pace and chaos he could provide even if there are currently elements of his game that are miles off Championship level. Manning it seems wants control, Yeboah at this point doesn’t provide that.

Personally, I think there is often a case for throwing in some pace and chaos late on in a game, and would like to see him get a run late on late on in games. Especially when, to be honest, I have absolutely no interest in watching Mehmeti take a million touches to achieve the square root of nothing.

I felt like yesterday's game was perfect for him to come on and use his pace.

[TDarwall]

Think this is a good example of difference in Nige & Mannings philosophies.  The latter wants control above everything else, whilst Nige was with lobbing in a grenade.

For me, Nige was too keen to use him (& it became a predictable sub), whilst arguably, Manning is too reticent.

 

[Numero Uno]

29 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

Under NP he was regularly getting game time coming on as a sub. He seemed to have real pace and although raw, posed a threat running at defenders. Thought he might become the latest to come good from the under 21s.

However, I think I'm right in saying he has got ZERO minutes under Manning, despite Sam Bell struggling and Mehmeti, although showing promise, not actually delivering any end product.

Anyone shed any light on what's happening with Yeboah? Thought I read on a another thread, something about Manning's comments on him?

I think we previously had a Manager who was comfortable in his skin, and whether you rated him or not, didn't give a crap what the Ownership thought on football matters and picked who HE WANTED to pick (including Andy King btw). We now have a Manager who has been put under both immediate and unnecessary pressure arising from silly comments made by Jon and Sid to justify the sacking of previous Manager. Therefore chucking on 17 year olds when you need results is a risky business. So not only has Sid got rid of a decent Manager he has also affected his own ambition to see Academy lads trotting out onto that pitch every week.

Well done Sid.

[TV Tom]

Semenyo hadn't even enjoyed the surroundings of Twerton Park and Rodney Parade at that age and he didn't turn out too bad

[Gratz260689]

Think NP just didn’t want to give mehmeti game time so therefore he had to play yeboah as we had nobody else. Now that manning has came in and willing to give mehmeti a go yeboah will get none or very little opportunity!! 

[Super]

He's not yet ready at this level

[GrahamC]

1 minute ago, Super said:

He's not yet ready at this level

Certainly think that is Manning’s view.

Think like Knight-Lebel & Meerholz he’s only on the bench at present because there is no one else fit & it would look embarrassing to have 5 subs.

[Betty Swallocks]

1 hour ago, old_eastender said:

Under NP he was regularly getting game time coming on as a sub. He seemed to have real pace and although raw, posed a threat running at defenders. Thought he might become the latest to come good from the under 21s.

However, I think I'm right in saying he has got ZERO minutes under Manning, despite Sam Bell struggling and Mehmeti, although showing promise, not actually delivering any end product.

Anyone shed any light on what's happening with Yeboah? Thought I read on an another thread, something about Manning's comments on him?

He’s 17. 

[W-S-M Seagull]

13 minutes ago, Gratz260689 said:

Think NP just didn’t want to give mehmeti game time so therefore he had to play yeboah as we had nobody else. Now that manning has came in and willing to give mehmeti a go yeboah will get none or very little opportunity!! 

Mehmeti has proven why NP wasn't willing to give him game time. 

12 minutes ago, Super said:

He's not yet ready at this level

Are we back to the days of waiting until a player turns 23/24 before they are deemed ready? 

[Snufflelufagus]

39 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

He’s 17. 

Come on this is OTIB. By now we fully expected him to have scored 15goals, had 5 assists and 3 mom performances coming on as sub. 

[WECANDO]

The old saying fits Yeboah. "If your good enough, your old enough". How many games did he feature as a sub? About 8 was it? From what I could see  he was in no way overwhelmed by playing in the first team. Getting on with 10 to 20 mins left plus extra time, he used his pace against tiring legs to good effect. He ghosted past defenders. When he lost the ball, he got back to try to win it back and did a number of times. He was also a feisty bugger. Another plus was the buzz round the ground when he got on. I couldn't see to much wrong with him. Definately an impact player. 

[The turtle]

One of Manning's favourite words.

Control control control control....

When you think yeboah; control is certainly not what you associate.

......

More broadly speaking, if we put pep as the pope of the manning way church. It's taken him 15 years of coaching until to embrace the chaos that doku brings. Every other maverick was, learn the system or you won't play.

They have normally taken 1 season to adjust, and they are 100 million buys. Don't think we will see him in and around the first team for a while; earliest being nothing to play for this season.

 

 

 

[Topper 123]

Not good enough yet 

[Northern Red]

1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Are we back to the days of waiting until a player turns 23/24 before they are deemed ready? 

No.

This is getting desperate.

[Numero Uno]

51 minutes ago, The turtle said:

One of Manning's favourite words.

Control control control control....

When you think yeboah; control is certainly not what you associate.

......

More broadly speaking, if we put pep as the pope of the manning way church. It's taken him 15 years of coaching until to embrace the chaos that doku brings. Every other maverick was, learn the system or you won't play.

They have normally taken 1 season to adjust, and they are 100 million buys. Don't think we will see him in and around the first team for a while; earliest being nothing to play for this season.

 

 

 

EXCEPT Yeboah is 100 times BETTER than Sam Bell at doing his defensive work. Chalk and Cheese. People who only watch the ball and sneer that he's not ready certainly haven't noticed that part of his game. It's like Yeboah and Bell's ages swap completely when it comes to doing the dirty work.........

Edited December 10, 2023 by Numero Uno

[W-S-M Seagull]

24 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

No.

This is getting desperate.

Thank you for your insightful answer.

What is? 

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 hour ago, The turtle said:

One of Manning's favourite words.

Control control control control....

When you think yeboah; control is certainly not what you associate.

......

More broadly speaking, if we put pep as the pope of the manning way church. It's taken him 15 years of coaching until to embrace the chaos that doku brings. Every other maverick was, learn the system or you won't play.

They have normally taken 1 season to adjust, and they are 100 million buys. Don't think we will see him in and around the first team for a while; earliest being nothing to play for this season.

 

 

 

It very much feels as if Manning is a bit like Pep in that regard. 

How that fits in with our clubs want and need to blood academy players, I'm not quite sure. 

[marcofisher]

He is clearly training with the first team and that will benefit him just as much in the long run as getting minutes just for the sake of it where he is perhaps not quite there yet.

[Davefevs]

3 hours ago, Cityboy1954 said:

Hes gone in to see him about lack of game time .

He’s a confident young fella.  Told Tins when he signed his photo would be on the wall like the other Academy players who’d reached the first team, and that it wouldn’t be long either.  I like his confidence.  But he’s a little way off what’s needed as it stands.

[LondonBristolian]

2 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Mehmeti has proven why NP wasn't willing to give him game time. 

Are we back to the days of waiting until a player turns 23/24 before they are deemed ready? 

That’s a massive leap of an assumption from someone not bringing a 17 year old off the bench. By my count, Manning has started 5 under 23s more than once so I think we can immediately discount that as a theory.

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 minute ago, LondonBristolian said:

That’s a massive leap of an assumption from someone not bringing a 17 year old off the bench. By my count, Manning has started 5 under 23s more than once so I think we can immediately discount that as a theory.

Can we? 

Whilst he has a history in academy coaching, how many academy players in his short manager career has he given debuts for? 

[Sir Geoff]

3 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

I think we previously had a Manager who was comfortable in his skin, and whether you rated him or not, didn't give a crap what the Ownership thought on football matters and picked who HE WANTED to pick (including Andy King btw). We now have a Manager who has been put under both immediate and unnecessary pressure arising from silly comments made by Jon and Sid to justify the sacking of previous Manager. Therefore chucking on 17 year olds when you need results is a risky business. So not only has Sid got rid of a decent Manager he has also affected his own ambition to see Academy lads trotting out onto that pitch every week.

Well done Sid.

Funny you should say that, but I was thinking  the exact same thing yesterday. If Manning is under pressure for results he won't be chucking kids in.

Sid, what gave you done ?

[Alessandro]

49 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Funny you should say that, but I was thinking  the exact same thing yesterday. If Manning is under pressure for results he won't be chucking kids in.

Sid, what gave you done ?

Is anyone else questioning the depth of the academy right now? Tinnion has talked it up massively....if you thought Alex Scott was good, wait till you see the next lot...

But the pathway looks like it's slowed down to me - feels that way. Who is next? I'm not saying it's stopped, just slowed.

We started were only 4 academy products - which one is the next big sell? 

Max, Zac, Sam and Tommy. I could see Zac being poached and if Conway goes on a run of goals rest of season, he'd be looked at. Bell, putting it diplomatically, still finding his feet at this level. Max? Can't see big money spent of him. 

Then 3 more on the bench that feel quite a long way off the first team and under ironically Manning he seems more reluctant to throw them on than under NP.

I can see new signings (if allowed..another debate) pushing Bell and potentially even Conway down the pecking order. Not great for the pathway/nest egg.

Then to the next crop - next season too soon for real impact? They're not getting any game time.....interesting times.