The Original OTIB Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Just now, harvey54 said: I shamed myself As long as the curtains are shut ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, Natchfever said: Wtf does that mean? Before Southgate England were largely shit. We had good players but no cohesion as a team. He deserves some respect for his record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Just now, And Its Smith said: Is it only English fans that care about friendlies? Feels that way sometimes. Completely pointless I bet Germany and the Netherlands care about their game tonight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: None of that equates to automatically winning it does it? As you say, France has equal opportunity - there is never a divine right to win a trophy. We have been in the mix in recent tournaments, and i expect we will be in the mix in the forthcoming Euros. I hope the gold dust of Bellingham takes us over the line. Southgate has been a good manager for England - i don't see how anyone can argue against that. When it comes to the crunch his arse goes and that translates to the players. I disagree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: None of that equates to automatically winning it does it? As you say, France has equal opportunity - there is never a divine right to win a trophy. We have been in the mix in recent tournaments, and i expect we will be in the mix in the forthcoming Euros. I hope the gold dust of Bellingham takes us over the line. Southgate has been a good manager for England - i don't see how anyone can argue against that. Because with the best set of players we have ever had, especially going forward he has won diddly squat even with the advantage of a home final Won absolutely nothing, zilch, nada and with his negative attitude that's how it will stay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Just now, frenchred said: Because with the best set of players we have ever had, especially going forward he has won diddly squat even with the advantage of a home final Won absolutely nothing, zilch, nada and with his negative attitude that's how it will stay Other teams have good players. Its not football manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: Before Southgate England were largely shit. We had good players but no cohesion as a team. He deserves some respect for his record. Pre Southgate the squad was nowhere near as good. The team plays not to lose when against decent opposition. And usually ends up losing. Edited March 26 by Natchfever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Is it only English fans that care about friendlies? Feels that way sometimes. Completely pointless And bear in mind since the introduction of the Nations League they carry even less significance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Just now, TonyTonyTony said: Other teams have good players. Its not football manager Then it's up to the manager/coach to devise a way to beat them, you know actually go out and win the game. Not be petrified if losing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Ukraine qualify 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Just now, The Original OTIB said: As long as the curtains are shut ... I struggle with the whole England thing. I know we have an abundance of talented youngsters but I feel we've entrusted them with a manger who didn't prove himself at club level and therefore didn't merit the job. I'd love him to succeed. I don't believe that losing a World Cup semi is success although I recognise that people would consider that this is our level. Same goes to losing to Italy in the Euros. I'd just like him to win something and prove me wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, SecretSam said: I bet Germany and the Netherlands care about their game tonight That's because they hate each other though. I quite like Belgians, especially their chocolate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Friendly games or not, it’s not been the best couple of games. Hopefully the injuries are just precautionary too. Good to see Mainoo though. Looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 27 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: For the first time since Sven was in charge I think you can argue that a significant proportion of the team... are in the world class bracket or just below. And look what Sven achieved... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said: And bear in mind since the introduction of the Nations League they carry even less significance. If they mean nothing the FA should take them all round the country and charge 30 quid a ticket. Clearly matter to the FA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 First time Wales ever played extra time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Well, I hate it when England lose, even in a friendly. Having said that a lot more hopeful signs to take away from tonight than Brazil. Same old problems however at the back. Edit…deserved draw! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Go on Jude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 (edited) Jesus.....2-2 (For clarity I know Bellingham Scored it....not Jesus!) Edited March 26 by MelksRed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Get in. I’m not a fan of Watkins but credit for his chasing a lost cause on the touchline and keeping it in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Just now, SecretSam said: And look what Sven achieved... Who said he did a good job though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: That's because they hate each other though. I quite like Belgians, especially their chocolate. Nah, prefer their beer Nice place mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Extra time in Cardiff. It’s tense. Not much between the teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Natchfever said: Who said he did a good job though? It does illustrate that 'good players' don't mean good results. Look at the Dutch... wonderful team, great players, zero world cups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Was I seeing things was that a blatant handball by the defender just before the goal?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Class from Jude. Overall a decent performance, we were the better team overall IMO! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: That's because they hate each other though. I quite like Belgians, especially their chocolate. ...and beer Just now, SecretSam said: ...and beer ...and cycling, Ronde van Vlaanderen this weekend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Well taken by Bellingham. Think a draw was fair . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Super said: Was I seeing things was that a blatant handball by the defender just before the goal?! Looked it to me, would have been a very good shout for a penalty on VAR, hand looked well away from body. Only seen it the once but it was my immediate reaction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Just now, SecretSam said: And look what Sven achieved... Oh yeah, not denying that. I will maintain that we would have won that 2004 euros if it wasn’t for Rooney getting injured as he was unplayable there. Sven definitely underachieved overall and Southgate has done well to get “team England” in place as opposed to the club cliques. The question over him becomes that for the third tournament running we’ll - by ability - be in the top four teams. And I think it’s right to say other teams also have good players. But if you can’t get over the line in the circumstance of having one of the best teams consistently (and this time it is more pronounced as we should be one of only two teams likely to win it), then it is fair to ask how successful you are bearing on mind resource as a manager. Thats not slating him - it’s just saying what are reasonable expectations in the summer. Because if you don’t succeed three times in that circumstance then questions over how good you are become reasonable. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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