Betty Swallocks Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 4 minutes ago, North London Red said: I believe our game at Forest in early February will go down as the last ever FA cup replay. Aston Villa played Chelsea in a 4th round replay the same evening, but Chelsea won that in 90 minutes whereas our game went to extra time and penalties. “Last FA Cup replay, you’ll never sing that” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 I guess managers will prefer the risk of their team playing 120 minutes plus penalties once before a mid week game than a replay . Guess it will free up an extra week too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 18 Admin Report Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, Robbored said: The competition has to have the same regulations in every round. It wouldn’t be acceptable to introduce ‘no replays’ in round 3 when the big boys join in. Already raised about 5th round onwards, but why are replays still happening in the qualifying rounds? With the crazy backlogs for many non league sides at the moment, I am sure they could benefit from needless replays too 2 hours ago, sephjnr said: There should have been a provision to guarantee home draws for non-PL teams vs PL. That would be much fairer to increase revenue instead of nebulous donations to 'grass roots', which I suspect is slang for 'bypass the other professional outfits and establish our own training facilities'. How would a side with a capacity of 10k make more moeny being at home against a team that could hold 40k? 1 hour ago, Dredd said: How about if it's all square at the end of 90 mins after the first game the PL club can choose to forfeit the replay and go out of the competition. If we think VAR takes a long time, imagine how long a board of directors would take to agree on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 (edited) 22 minutes ago, phantom said: How would a side with a capacity of 10k make more moeny being at home against a team that could hold 40k? Make more money for their selves of their own volition including match day revenue. Which - in a similar vein to the EFL selling off online TV to Sky - is now reliant more on handouts from the PL who are DESPERATELY trying to ringfence for their own control even further. Edited April 18 by sephjnr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 Just to focus for a second on the other bit of news in this. The FA Cup final will be the week before the final Premiership round of ties. There seems no need for this at all other than a bit of ego ‘we are the finish of the season, not you’. Charity Shieid starts the domestic season, FA Cup finishes it. No need for change at all. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 4 hours ago, Robbored said: The competition has to have the same regulations in every round. It wouldn’t be acceptable to introduce ‘no replays’ in round 3 when the big boys join in. So why have VAR in some games and not in others 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1960maaan Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 (edited) For some reason everything I typed disappeared. Anyway , basically that it is to benefit smaller Clubs is bullshit as they haven't been consulted . While I get that it's a bust schedule , all this is doing is making space for a few top teams to make space for European games. Small Clubs have made Club saving Cup runs for years. Those replays , with TV , extra revenue advertising and profile raising games have been vitally important for decades . The worst thing is they are saying it is done to benefit the smaller Clubs , bullshit , they didn't even consult the "smaller" Clubs. Edited April 18 by 1960maaan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 Yeah, as it turns out the EFL clubs weren't consulted. That is unbelievable imo. It's one thing to be fine with scrapping replays. But the dodgy backroom way they've gone about it should worry everybody. The game is seemingly being run by a few clubs in the premier league in all but name. It's elitist, arrogant, scummy. And not to benefit of football as a whole in this country. The FA should be thoroughly ashamed by this. They are supposed to be the governing body. They are clearly not fit for purpose. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 6 hours ago, Markthehorn said: Strange to scrap Round one and two replays when the PL clubs don’t enter those rounds . Another nail in the coffin of the cup. FA bullshit about grassroots football too. Number if clubs in financial difficulties because of ridiculous ground improvement demands and start/end dates of the seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 35 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: So why have VAR in some games and not in others Because only PL clubs have the kit required to use VaR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 As mentioned above, the real issue here is not the changes themselves but the fact it was a decision made purely by the FA and the Premier League. This is a serious problem and sets a precedent. Imagine if the Premier League decide that they want to suspend promotion and relegation for 5 years, purely to improve the sustainability of the lower leagues of course? There are arguments on both sides regarding the benefits of having replays but the fact the huge majority of clubs and their respective leagues who are affected by this decision were never even consulted on these changes places far too much power in the Premier League's hands. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderwithtommy Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 I often wonder how, and why, we allow our sport to be run by people so short sighted, clearly corrupt (morally and monetarily) and utterly clueless. To not consult 72 clubs (plus I would imagine all the non league +400?) in this decision just speaks volumes. Forget about community clubs, the glamour of the cup, we want to watch spurs play Madrid in July in Sydney at 8am for the Audi A1 cup… that’s better for everyone… or for some ££. The “big” clubs need the pyramid, they are just too greedy and dense to understand it. I kinda want to see it all implode, just purely so that these leeches leave the sport, and go ruin something else (like a mock Tudor mansion in Essex). So many of these people are also failed businesspeople - Stavely going bankrupt today a great example. Idiotic decision with no rationale at all, and that is why the “small” clubs were not involved. love the sport, HATE the business 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 17 minutes ago, Robbored said: Because only PL clubs have the kit required to use VaR. I know that But as the post i replied to said ALL games in a competition should be played with the same rules 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 43 minutes ago, Atticus said: Yeah, as it turns out the EFL clubs weren't consulted. That is unbelievable imo. It's one thing to be fine with scrapping replays. But the dodgy backroom way they've gone about it should worry everybody. The game is seemingly being run by a few clubs in the premier league in all but name. It's elitist, arrogant, scummy. And not to benefit of football as a whole in this country. The FA should be thoroughly ashamed by this. They are supposed to be the governing body. They are clearly not fit for purpose. Teams can opt out of the fa cup if they feel that strongly about it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 Can’t wait for the managers of the teams in the final to complain about having to play another midweek game to make up for when the final is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 21 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: I know that But as the post i replied to said ALL games in a competition should be played with the same rules Is VaR used in the FA Cup as only PL clubs have it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 How long before PL clubs have a note from their Mums asking for them to be excused taking part in the FA Cup? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 42 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said: Teams can opt out of the fa cup if they feel that strongly about it. would have been better if the teams going to europe opted out of the FA cup if they didnt take anything other than the premier league seriously in england 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 Whilst it is outrageous that clubs were not consulted. This has been spoken about for a while. It was supposed to be part of the 'new deal' So why didn't clubs make their voices heard before? It was always going to happen when the later replays were scrapped. That was just the beginning. This won't be the end either. The big clubs do not want to play the little clubs. The reality is with their huge squad's, they have the choice to not play their 1st team if they do want that rest. Whats next? The bigger clubs not entering until the later rounds? Such a shame as the Fa Cup seems to have got its magic back over recent seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 Thinking in hindsight it but might have been better to just let the buggers go to the super league and have been done with it. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 (edited) 16 minutes ago, cityexile said: Thinking in hindsight it but might have been better to just let the buggers go to the super league and have been done with it. 100% agree. Let them all **** off and allow British football to return to sustainable reality. You've got my vote. Edited April 18 by BigTone 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 28 minutes ago, cityexile said: Thinking in hindsight it but might have been better to just let the buggers go to the super league and have been done with it. 11 minutes ago, BigTone said: 100% agree. Let them all **** off and allow British football to return to sustainable reality. You've got my vote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 55 minutes ago, downendcity said: How long before PL clubs have a note from their Mums asking for them to be excused taking part in the FA Cup? No chance, let 'em play in their pants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 The side drawn at home should always have the advantage . if a tie goes to a replay, and then drawn again, the side drawn away currently get an additional 30 mins and then pens at their stadium giving them an obvious advantage to go through, so yes, I think the change is correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 7 hours ago, Robbored said: The competition has to have the same regulations in every round. It wouldn’t be acceptable to introduce ‘no replays’ in round 3 when the big boys join in. They don't have VAR in every round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said: Teams can opt out of the fa cup if they feel that strongly about it. The EFL regulations requires clubs to participate: "Further, for the avoidance of doubt, every Club, by becoming and remaining a member of The League, agrees to compete in the League Competition, the EFL Cup, The Football Association Challenge Cup and all other competitions conducted or controlled by The League and in which it is eligible to compete." The Premier League rules also requires clubs to participate: "Each Club shall enter the F.A. Cup." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 3 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: Until Football League clubs start standing up for themselves, they will continue to be ignored by the powers that be. I'd love to see them stick together and refuse to enter the FA Cup next season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, redsquirrel said: would have been better if the teams going to europe opted out of the FA cup if they didnt take anything other than the premier league seriously in england Due to info from @View from the Dolman my reply is nonsensical. Mods feel free to delete this post! Edited April 18 by Sleepy1968 additional info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, cityexile said: Thinking in hindsight it but might have been better to just let the buggers go to the super league and have been done with it. I wanted them to go at the time. **** the lot of them. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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