Dolman Block B Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 About to announce the loan signings of Tammy Abraham and Yannick Bolasie Can someone tell me how the bloody hell 6 weeks back they were in the shite financially and now pulling off signings like this? Seriously pisses me off when our club abide by the rule and no FFP problems, yet got a job to bring any “name” player in!!! Even worse imagine when these two are partnered by Albert Adomah and Jonathan Kodjia when we play them at Ashton Gate late September? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 This bloke as well https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/08/22/transfer-news-anwar-el-ghazi-joins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Bunch of *******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dolman Block B said: About to announce the loan signings of Tammy Abraham and Yannick Bolasie Can someone tell me how the bloody hell 6 weeks back they were in the shite financially and now pulling off signings like this? Seriously pisses me off when our club abide by the rule and no FFP problems, yet got a job to bring any “name” player in!!! Even worse imagine when these two are partnered by Albert Adomah and Jonathan Kodjia when we play them at Ashton Gate late September? I’m afraid Albert would struggle to get into the team with that lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 But the question is still unanswered - where has the money been conjured up from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Maybe they are selling Grealish in January for £30m- that would still help them comply with FFP, perhaps a decent chunk of it. That's my theory anyway- otherwise the ******* should get a big points deduction in the Spring- these can now be applied in season. Thought Bolasie was off to Middlesborough anyway?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 New Owners pumped new money in/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Doesn't count towards FFP @cheshire_red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: But the question is still unanswered - where has the money been conjured up from? New owner or shareholder came in over the summer. I think Dr. Xia is still there, but new person is providing the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 If ever proof was needed that we're essentially playing in a different league..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Really hope they don’t go up . Would love it . Despise them even more now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 If true then I so so hope they royally **** it up this season, then disappear up their own arse, can't ******* stand the arrogant wkankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Wow didn't see they'd got El Ghazi. Unbelievable 3 signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: But the question is still unanswered - where has the money been conjured up from? @Mr Popodopolous is right, the money was used to clear their financial difficulties repaying clubs etc, however they weren't in trouble with FFP to the extent they can't sign guys on loan etc. The fading thought of Tammy and Andi upfront together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, hodge said: @Mr Popodopolous is right, the money was used to clear their financial difficulties repaying clubs etc, however they weren't in trouble with FFP to the extent they can't sign guys on loan etc. The fading thought of Tammy and Andi upfront together Because they are still technically compliant based on the past 3 seasons i.e. 15/16 to 17/18, I'd suggest they can sign technically- but they will surely be in massive breach as it stands by the end of this season- the question then is if the EFL can make the punishment stick, i.e. a big points deduction. Assuming of course they don't make themselves compliant through selling several players- particularly Grealish. Them and Forest, albeit the latter for differing reasons, are big, big test cases IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Because they are still technically compliant based on the past 3 seasons i.e. 15/16 to 17/18, I'd suggest they can sign technically- but they will surely be in massive breach as it stands by the end of this season- the question then is if the EFL can make the punishment stick, i.e. a big points deduction. Assuming of course they don't make themselves compliant through selling several players- particularly Grealish. Them and Forest, albeit for differing reasons are big big test cases IMO. Thing is we don't know what the agreement between the clubs would be for % of wages, loan fee etc. For all we know Villa have worked a miracle and got them all without paying wages and loan fees (in the 0.000000000000000000000000001% chance that's happened). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, hodge said: Thing is we don't know what the agreement between the clubs would be for % of wages, loan fee etc. For all we know Villa have worked a miracle and got them all without paying wages and loan fees (in the 0.000000000000000000000000001% chance that's happened). Lille needed their player they loaned Villa off the wage bill so I doubt it in their case. Don't see why Chelsea, part of whose business model relies on loaning and selling young players, would give Villa a free pass? Bolasie? Perhaps- Everton seem to be under no big financial issues I think, for as long as they remain in PL anyway. However yeah, that's spot on- they could have got free loans as you describe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Lille needed their player they loaned Villa off the wage bill so I doubt it in their case. Don't see why Chelsea, part of whose business model relies on loaning and selling young players, would give Villa a free pass? Bolasie? Perhaps- Everton seem to be under no big financial issues I think, for as long as they remain in PL anyway. I don't see it either but just a case we wouldn't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Wow didn't see they'd got El Ghazi. Unbelievable 3 signings. I thought Darrel Clark wanted to sign El Ghazi . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, hodge said: I don't see it either but just a case we wouldn't know God, transfer market can be slippery at times...favours for mates that sort of thing are surely rife. Slippery is a very kind (legally safe?) word to use so I'll stick with slippery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: But the question is still unanswered - where has the money been conjured up from? Exactly? The wages must be staggering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Just now, Dolman Block B said: Exactly? The wages must be staggering Unless each club decided to gift them the 3 players on loan for no wage contribution and no wage fee of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Major Isewater said: I thought Darrel Clark wanted to sign El Ghazi . No. He said the way the Rovers played last night he would like them all shot on the Ghazi Strip Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: Unless each club decided to gift them the 3 players on loan for no wage contribution and no wage fee of course... No chance at all of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Doesn't count towards FFP @cheshire_red New owners have prob only pumped enough in for one more punt. Calculated gamble. If they don’t make it this year (please god) they will be in hole they can’t get out of next summer. i would absolutely love it as keegan said but i won’t hold my breathe though as they will probably make it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, milo1111 said: New owners have prob only pumped enough in for one more punt. Calculated gamble. If they don’t make it this year (please god) they will be in hole they can’t get out of next summer. i would absolutely love it as keegan said but i won’t hold my breathe though as they will probably make it now. Punishments can be applied in-season now, through submission of projected accounts. I'm attempting to have a crack at Villa's changes in financial position for last and so far this season- surely will lose more than £39m over the 3 seasons- seem to have not shown willing either to put it right (because for Birmingham's breaches they at least removed 5 or 6 players from the squad no number- as a proactive attempt to ship out). Big points deduction please if there are big breaches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Maybe they are selling Grealish in January for £30m- that would still help them comply with FFP, perhaps a decent chunk of it. That's my theory anyway- otherwise the ******* should get a big points deduction in the Spring- these can now be applied in season. Thought Bolasie was off to Middlesborough anyway?? http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/08/22/report-evertons-yannick-bolasie-to-snub-boro-for-aston-villa/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 http://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/3606911/chelseas-tammy-abraham-close-to-aston-villa-loan-move-sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevep38 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Would love it if we pinched Tammy off them at the last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 I predict 2 things: 1. If they breach FFP they will get the equivalent of a slap on the wrist. Too big a club for the EFL to take on. 2. If at any point they go 3 games without a win Bruce will start complaining that he wasn't allowed to spend enough money, just as he did last season. I used to have a soft spot for Villa as one of the great old clubs but they have become the epitome of a badly run club with a sense of entitlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, chinapig said: I predict 2 things: 1. If they breach FFP they will get the equivalent of a slap on the wrist. Too big a club for the EFL to take on. 2. If at any point they go 3 games without a win Bruce will start complaining that he wasn't allowed to spend enough money, just as he did last season. I used to have a soft spot for Villa as one of the great old clubs but they have become the epitome of a badly run club with a sense of entitlement. Undoubtedly agree with 2 and the entitlement thing. I really hope you're wrong on 1 however...too big in what sense? Prestige? Rich owners? Media allies? These rules were agreed on by all clubs, voted for- if they take the piss, I'd put it to a vote of all 72 clubs to sling em out the Football League. Forest too, to an extent. @formerly known as ivan Adidas would therefore be a related third party so market rate/fair value only and the rest disallowed/deducted from the calculations. @Dolman Block B We actually can afford it to be fair, in FFP terms we're in a pretty good place so a season loan for Tammy wouldn't be financially impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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