spudski

1 minute ago, City169 said:

I notice none of those slating LJ after 3 minutes this afternoon are giving any credit after 94 mins...

 

Yep...apparently we are worse under LJ...relegated after 3 mins into a game...this is a great win...a very hard game against another side fighting for their lives.

As MK Dons showed against Hull...teams at the bottom are generally harder to play against.

Well done LJ and the lads and all those supporters getting behind them.

Get in...We never win at Forest...Fantastic result.

Well done LJ and the boys...absolutely stunning result.

Can't wait to see the highlights now...what a result

1 hour ago, Tomarse said:

The reason of having one thread is to keep it all 'in one thread' as opposed to seperate threads.  I'd bin it if the majority of people wanted it to go, however we might find we have 5-6 topics on them every weekend instead..

No problem fella...just thought it would be good to hide the thread a little, as it seems we are lowering ourselves to the level of the Gas by constantly discussing what they do...rather than focussing on ourselves...especially on match day...and an important game to pull away further...all good mate.

Any chance this thread can be put in the Sub forum?

Does my head in,  we have 124 pages about the Gas...and it's top of a Bristol City forum.

Embarrassing...they must be wallowing in it.

2 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said:

@spudski and @Esmond Million's Bung: you fellas done now?

Doubt it mate...it's an ongoing love hate relationship. We agree on very little and rub one another up the wrong way.

We'd probably get on over a pint...but don't see eye to eye on here.

Love ya really EMB

24 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

Thing is fella, imagination is not fact and never will be.

As for the highlighted sentence make it up why don't you? where did I or have I said that exactly?, really try reading what I posted for once, what I am saying in that regard he is no different to the vast majority of managers at whatever level who are going through a bad time, they have an arrogant idea that what worked once will continue to work, your post has just described most of those managers, just take a look on the Walsall fans forum or the Barnsley forum when LJ took over at BCFC, they claim exactly that when Barnsley went through their bad spell and in that regard SC is no different to virtually any other manager.

i'm ecstatic that we are beginning to draw clear of the bottom 3, something we witnessed with KM and DMC, it's what happens the season after that shows whether progress has been made or not and hopefully LJ can reverse that particular trend.

PS:- LJ like the past 5 managers have not been my first choice, but if you look at my posts since his arrival I have supported him and said as much, even to the effect that his substitution policy of bringing on Wilbraham and Agard after an hour is genius IMO, but you only really see the real manager when there is a crisis, that's when we will have a better idea of what type of manager that we have on our hands.

This is where we disagree though fella...I don't think SC is like MOST managers...I agree every manager has lean spells...it's what he was doing behind the scenes, and the negative vibe and poor long term outlook he was giving the whole Club, that I don't like. You may disagree...so we can agree to disagree on that respect.

I agree with the other parts you have said though.

So shall we just leave this...and look forward to a sunny future...fingers crossed :-)

5 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

This is the post that you were replying to and facts are fine and obviously backed up by results and I am relieved and very happy, but replying 'too true' to a post with that first line requires just that 'vivid imagination' and pure speculation, it's as scientific picking lottery numbers and my post to you is as least as valid, because it to requires 'vivid imagination'.

"Just imagine where we would have been if LJ had come in in October/November"

But this is a case of better late than never, I hope and I believe

Bounce Bounce Bounce

One thing is for sure and LJ eluded to it that we have a great group of players and a very tight knit dressing room, something that despite results remained, something that LJ could tap into immediately and probably something many teams in our position could not count on, the sacking of SC was right and just and it's timing may prove to be perfect and with that regard it looks as though the board have got the timing and appointment correct twice now.

My grudge is the vitriol aimed at a guy who gave us a memorable season and a half after 5/6 years of mainly misery and 4 abject managers and then he did what MOST eventual sacked managers do when things start going wrong, believed that he was right and the old magic would return and kept on with the same old system and picking 'certain' players', in that regard he is no different to Mourinho, LVG, Pulis, Fat Sam, Wenger, Rogers even SOD, it's what they do, there are very few anywhere in the world who are different to this when things go wrong and to us mere fans it seems like simple suicide but still they carry on with their ideas, even Barnsley fans alluded to it with LJ during his 8 match losing streak 'stubborn' and picking 'certain players' and baffling tactics were mentioned, it's a recurring theme with struggling managers the world over.

 

 

Thing is fella...that is your opinion... But when anyone stood up for SoD you were all over em like a rash...yet when the tables are turned, it's different?

You can't have it both ways. You liked him as a manager, and because others don't, and he proved to be a failure this season, you can't seem to handle people talking about him in negative tones.

What you seem to only look at, is the short term results of SC's tenure. Yes, he got us promotion and it was a great season...but at what cost?

The damage he was doing throughout the rest of the Club goes unnoticed by the majority. It was short term success...he was actually doing more damage long term.

His time in league 1 suited in many ways, the timing was very easy compared to others...contracts up and allowed to spend on players.

Previous managers had various 'shackles' to work with...and it showed. But at least some were trying to do the right thing, and put things in place for the future.

Great...the man should be applauded for getting us promotion...but what he did this season was disgusting. And because he got us promoted, he got away with it...any other manager would have been thrown out earlier...and I'm not just going on about the rubbish he was producing on the pitch. I haven't looked...but his results this season must be the worst under any City manager.

Now when anyone compares Sc's time this season, to how it's changed since he's left, throughout the club, it causes a few to react negatively.

I really can't understand how you can't see how badly he was managing the club this season....

His closest work colleagues take over ( JP and WA ) and change things immediately...across the club...so that goes to show they didn't believe in what he was doing.

Players have come out and said how much better they feel playing a different way.

SC said he couldn't get anymore out of these players and made excuse after excuse...what a load of bollox that was.

The bloke was stubborn and selfish and thought nothing more than himself...he thought he was bigger than the Club...arrogant to the last. Cut off his nose to spite his face.

If you get a chance...speak to people down their now. It's like a heavy depressing weight has been taken away. Nothing to do with results only.

Either way...I'm not going to agree with what you think about SC...EVER. So why don't we just avoid commenting on one another comments regarding such, as we just go round in circles.

3 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

 

A question to you and anybody else who is going to games regularly; are we playing easier on the eye football or more effective football since changing the formation?

On paper the wing back system of Cotts was usually great to watch while traditional 4-4-2 can be turgid.

Results are essential obviously but I hope we can find a way of continuing to play entertaining football.

I think the eye can be deceiving in many ways fella...any formation looks great when your winning with ease and scoring for fun like we did in league 1...but it's hopeless when conceding so many and relegation fodder.

Fair play to SC for what he did last season...you can't take that away from the bloke. However...it's madness to keep doing the same thing over and over, and losing so easily without changing and making so many excuses for why it's not working.

Then after leaving...the people SC worked with so closely, changed everything...and instantly got results with pretty much the same players.

Say's so much to me...a few will disagree, but the facts don't lie.

As for Entertainment...I think it depends on the person...what's entertaining for some, is boring for others.

I love technical football...lots hate it, and prefer bang, crash, wallop style football...so it's kind of a catch 22.

6 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

Could have had 8 defeats on the trot, according to this piece of nonsense.

The only nonsense I can see, is people who refuse to admit we are playing better football since LJ, JP and WA took charge.

Better results, more solid performances, less goals conceded, better points ratio, players actually saying they feel more comfortable playing under a new system, and a team growing in confidence...but hey...don't let facts get in the way of holding a grudge....even when everyone seems happy with what's happening.

2 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

Just imagine where we would have been if LJ had come in in October/November

But this is a case of better late than never, I hope and I believe

Bounce Bounce Bounce

Too true fella...we have a good group of players here...just not used properly in the past this season...onwards and upwards...solid performance again.

Think the ref may have a big say in this game....

1 minute ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Pack follows Korey Smith into the book.

This is a worry....

1 minute ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

I have read it all and in your words re SC's interviews if he didn't mean it why say it, you can't have both ways always.

 

Mate...SC always complained about something...it was never his fault...bad luck, not enough players etc,etc...never graceful in defeat. You can't deny that...Pemberton has been a breath of fresh air in his interviews by comparison. Glad I don't have to listen and watch his sulking face anymore.

2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

Well who said this?

"We certainly didn't deserve to lose the game, but that is what has happened and we cannot argue with that.

 

then read the rest of it ;-)

1 minute ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

it will be word for word the same as last Saturday's and most Saturday's this season, 'should have taken our chances, didn't deserve that result'.

 

Pembo said last week that you make your own luck and wouldn't say we 'deserved' a better result.

He say's it like it is...unlike SC who always made excuses.

These are the type of thing that happens when you're in a relegation battle.

Decisions go against you...I'm sure ref's get it into their brain that relegation teams are 'looking' for any advantage...it happens so many times, for you not to wonder.

1 minute ago, samo II said:

Lots of pressure and attempts on goal from our lads, sounds like; Brum's keeper working overtime.

Really, really hope we turn this into goals, as this would be heartbreaking to lose.

Love the formation Pembo has put out...seems we are all over them. Making so many chances and preventing them...such a breath of fresh air...just a bit of composure needed now...COYR's

We have the players...said it all along...play a different system, give players a chance, make substitutions when needed and rest tired players...it really is that simple.

Great win lads....well done Wade and Pembo for reacting the right way...fantastic...feel proud of them...anyone else feeling positive now?

Does anyone else feel anxiety when you hear ' added time?'

Whatever the result today....this just proves that the rest of the coaching staff didn't agree with SC's system imho.

Good luck lads...at least you are trying something different...brave... C'mon you reds.

Interesting that Preston have gone from 442 to 352...perhaps that's why it's such a poor game.

I'm going stick my head on the line and say it's going to be a big win for us tonight....gut feeling 3-0....please...COYR's  :-)

See................BURNS.....good lad.

Get in Kodge

FFS SC...get Burns and Reid on. Wilbs now booked... Tuesday is a massive game...this manager does my head in.