And Its Smith

Most of those fans will be fathers. Makes you wonder what their kids are like with such role models. Maybe they will be doing the same in 30 years. 

3 hours ago, Super said:

Claiming she was robbed. manual manipulator

  Not sure about robbed but if the decision had been been the other way I don’t think anyone would have been shocked. Nobody could call it at the final bell 

We were safe after we beat Boro on 19th Feb….there was no need for the panic after that!

9 minutes ago, Tafkarmlf said:

Difficult to pick an mom today

Klose?? 

James and Williams also played well too

Semenyo 

City winning 4-0 and some are obsessing over rovers! 

Credit to Pearson. I was a bit critical 6 weeks ago or so. Not for the league position but for the lack of anything to hang your hat on in terms of next season. We can now go into this summer believing that next season may well be a good one. 

“SeMeNyO aiNt GoOd eNoUgH fOr tHiS lEveL aNd NeVeR WiLL bE”

Just now, Jerseybean said:

Next season we will be playing Wigan and Rotherham, plus one of MK Dons, Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland and Wycombe Wanderers.

 

And Norwich and Watford. And one of Burnley and Everton 

24 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Martin has at least two more seasons in him and I can’t see any reason to move him on. He,AS and Weimann have really produced the goods all season and hopefully City can hold on to AS this summer.

Wells is ideal cover and if any of the three main strikers are unavailable then Conway is there as back up. No need whatsoever to change anything.

 

 

 

ideal 

There’s a need to move Wells on. FFP

6 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

 

Looks like a Joy Division album cover. 

The Weeknd 

Player of the year has gone to Danny Simpson. Can’t believe it. 

A funny one really. Did well to rebuild them but then ultimately underachieved with the good squad that he built. That’s why their fans are split on him.  If they get their next appointment right they could be play off challengers next season assuming they don’t lose their top players in the summer 

23 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

I know who they are, thanks.

Let’s start with Kalas, he’s on a rumoured £20k+ a week & didn’t move after a season when he had just played in the Euros quarter final. I have no doubt we will do a deal if one can be arranged, but saying it & actually doing it are 2 completely different things.

As for Scott, Semenyo & HNM, your argument here appears to be that if we get an offer for one of them we might then turn it down knowing that if we did so we would fail FFP, this position seems so far fetched as to not even be worth debating.

Of course we would sell a player in those circumstances, so are you seriously suggesting it is a possibility?

All I’m saying is that if we get points deducted it would be mismanagement. It is you that felt the need to debate this further 

1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said:

Selling is a short term solution. We've sold £20m(ish) of talent a few times in recent years. Bryan + Reid + Flint in 2018, Webster in 2019, and Kelly in 2020 (iirc). And yet here we are discussing points deductions and saying we need to yet again flog our bright young things to the highest paying Premier League vulture.

It is an unsustainable, hand to mouth type model that no club can hope to sustain for season after season after season. It also, and u speak personally now, is depressing for fans to see young exciting players py their trade at AG for just one or two seasons. I hate it.

The long term, necessary solution, is to wean ourselves off of relying on big sales to stay ahead of FFP. That means cutting wages, costs, and finding creative alternative income streams. We are doing that, but we need to do more. Because doing that is the only way that we can reach true sustainability.

Completely agree.  However it’s a short term solution that is open to us and should be used.  Longer term we are already showing that we are cutting our cloth better nowadays.  

35 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Because we have players that we can sell to avoid it.  We have players that other clubs want. 

@GrahamC I can name them if it helps

Massengo, Scott and Semenyo are sought after for sure.  Kalas would attract interest no doubt about it.  Depending on opinion of current market values that is anywhere between £20m to £35m worth of talent. 

5 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

So how would it be mismanagement for us to do so now?

We can only sell if someone wants to buy, are you suggesting that we would therefore refuse a deal knowing the alternative would be a points deduction? 

I’m confused as to how you think we have done “very well” to cut the wage bill but it would be mismanagement if we get a deduction?

Because we have players that we can sell to avoid it.  We have players that other clubs want. 

4 minutes ago, City oz said:

I have just googled points deductions Bristol City. It potentially does not look good and there are also other Championship clubs listed as well.

We have enough value in our squad to sell players and avoid a points deduction.  For me, avoiding it is very important. Gould seemed to suggest we may just take a deduction on purpose.  That may well have been bravado.  If the club is trying to sign players on one hand and presumably talking about the club potential whilst also suffering a points deduction, it’s an awful look 

19 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

How?

This is all retrospective so far.

We significantly cut our wage bill last summer, with 15 out, only 3 completely new players in, & still stayed up with something to spare, but we aren’t masters of our destiny to move on the likes of Palmer, Wells, Kalas or sell promising youngsters to now stay within it.

I know you are desperate to paint this as Pearson’s doing but it has Mark Ashton’s & to a lesser extent, LJ’s fingerprints all over it.

I’m not desperate for anything other than not to lose points.  I don’t think we will lose points because of the steps we have taken, which you so eloquently list.  And if we do still look like losing points then I’d expect us to sell players to avoid that. If we didn’t it would be mismanagement. 
 

We have done very well to cut the wage bill. I never said otherwise. As for your last paragraph, I’m not desperate to paint it as Pearsons fault and not sure where you have got that from. The only thing that Pearson has disappointed me in so far is taking 50 games to make us look defensively okay. 

12 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

It was complete mismanagement thatgot us in this position!

And it would be further mismanagement if we had points deducted 

I’d be surprised if we had a points deduction. Considering the value in our squad, it would be complete mismanagement of the situation to get to that point 

Gary Kirsten to be England test coach. Separate coach for shorter formats. Stokes to be captain. Crawley vice.  Anderson and Broad to play for England in summer if fit.  Apparently.  Quite happy if all that happens

2 minutes ago, Super said:

What about other Sports? It's poor value i'm afraid.

For you maybe.  £25 per month to watch an average of 6 games is very good value. Don’t know how you can say £4 per game is poor value.  It will never be less than that on a non committal basis. Alternatively it’s £125 for all 46 games.  Roughly £3 per game. 
 
I watch every game so that’s about 10 hours per month. I wouldn’t watch 10 hours of sky sports coverage per month in the football season.

I love cricket so when I don’t pay the £25 per month to city in the summer I give it to sky to watch cricket 

12 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

The original post was about watching live without a VPN so this is a bit of a tangent. Anyway, watching via a VPN maybe OK at the moment because relatively few people do it. If it became the norm for the majority of supporters to do this something would change because clubs would lose out on match day attendance and gain very little from the live streams. The obvious solution would be to stop  live streams by countries outside of the UK and restrict coverage to companies such as Sky etc in the UK and Robbins TV and equivalents. 

It’s not a tangent as part of the discussion was what the cost would be. I merely commented that it was £25 per month now which seems reasonable and fair 

9 minutes ago, Super said:

How is this better than Skysports?

Because for £25 per month i can watch every city game instead of games featuring teams I don’t care about 

14 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

What is £25 per month? 

Watching every city game on robins tv at the moment. For overseas viewers or UK viewers with a VPN