Davefevs

Carlisle

I really don’t think we will be under a strict business plan, more likely a bit of regular monitoring so that our projections are being maintained.

Creative can come in the form of extending contract to spread out amortisation for example. In Kalas’s case, spreading his £2m amortisation across several seasons by extending his contract could cut that considerably.

RochDale

Since his son became CEO ???

That’s why I said “wait until”….loan this season, permie transfer at £12m for next season. Here’s my quick and dirty look at Stoke, based on 2 scenarios, not inc stadium and impairment, and including it.

Nah he meant Neneh Cherry, she was 7 seconds away from catching him after he nutmegged her because of her buffalo stance.

Wait til they pay £12m for Harry Wilson ???

We haven’t breached for the cycle ending 20/21, nor will we breach for this season. Unless we remove some cost this summer or increase revenue (selling players) then we may breach next year. For some clubs, what they’ve posted in their accounts may not be what they put in their P&S / FFP return to the EFL, e.g. Stoke’s impairment might not be considered a covid allowance by EFL.

Instead of having 3 years of £35m (total £105m) losses, they would have 2 @ £35m and 1 @ £13m (total £83m) minus allowables. It is a bit more complicated because we are in this covid impacted cycle where 2 of the years count as one (summed and halved). So for the cycle ending 2022/23, it would be: £35m + £35m + £35m + £13m = £118m * 3/4 = £88.5m

I’d probably summarise as - FFP (PL) based on profit and loss - P&S (Champ) based on profit and loss - SCMP (Lg1/2) based on wages as a percentage on turnover

From a points deduction point of view, if you agree to that the settlement is 25% immediately or 35% over 3 years, you are deemed to have met the EFL insolvency policy, I.e. no points deduction at all, nor in the future, it’s not deferred. Of course in the 3 year example, I don’t know what the penalty is for failing to meet the obligation, that’s a different kettle of fish. What KM is saying, whatever agreement is made to come out of administration if it doesn’t meet the EFL 25% / 35% over 3 years, you will be hit with a 15 point penalty and under “sporting sanction” it will be applied next season. So in summary: - pass the EFL insolvency rules - 0 points deduction - fail to meet it - 15 points applied next season (assumes you don’t get enough points this season to beat relegation). Happy to be challenged.

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Until we get to see what the preferred bid actual is…it’s really difficult to ascertain what the future is. When does the bid get taken to the EFL? Still hugely intrigued how HMRC will see DCC’s proposal to buy PP, e.g. DCC can use people’s money to buy PP (little argument there), but CKDC can then rent it whilst not having settled a £28m tax debt.

Thought as much.

Just read that….guess we will find out in the media stuff later whether they’ve returned to “full” training or whether the video was more “warm-up”, light stuff.

Has Pearson failed….in your opinion?

Out of interest, what did I do / post to turn you from being all “pally” with me to becoming all passive aggressive and trolling my posts?

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You’d fit in well at Quantuma with those assurances…and a “my guess” caveat! ? As Q hasn’t taken PB to EFL yet, Kirchner can have had no assurances, apart from ones from Q….which are worthless.

If I was guessing on valuations, I’d say £4-6M Massengo, £8-12 Semenyo, Scott, absolutely no bloody idea! ?

Without going over too much old ground across many other posts and threads… I fully expect Pearson expected to do better this season at the start of the season. As the season progressed, points deductions made, City ticking over with a little over a point per game, to mean safety was never an issue…I think he cut his cloth accordingly. Had he wanted to invest last summer or in January, would he have had enough money available to make a major difference, e.g. play-off battle? The answer is no. Gambling on that and failing would’ve meant busting FFP this season, embargo, possible points deduction this season and next. As it stands we have plenty of wiggle room. But the pressure was always focussed on next season, because of the fuckwhittery of an approach to finances previously. That Lloyd Kelly transfer in May 2019 to show a profit in that financial year was completely unnecessary, and is why next season is at risk of busting FFP. Had they made that transfer on 1st June instead there would be no FFP issues next season…we’d actually be several million inside it. All because someone wanted to post an ego-driven first profit!!! Pisses me off hugely. So, the best chance of creating headroom for next season, was to spend as little as possible this season, find out about as many players as possible and go from there. That has pretty much been done. It’s a success, but not tangible on the pitch which is why we have mixed views on OTIB. Has the season panned out great? Nope. Has it been a disaster? Nope either. Has it been done as cheaply as possible? Pretty much. Can other managers coach the players better? I suspect so. Could those same managers have laid the foundation in as cost effective way as Pearson? We will never know, but I’m not sure many / any would’ve accepted the challenge in the first place either. Lots of ifs, buts and maybes in both sides of the argument. People who fail to acknowledge that this is not a black and white argument, are burying their heads in their own agendas…on whichever side the fall.

And that same coach is a great example of one who got “less out of more” this season. How you explain that?

Re rebuild, how many players has Pearson signed for the 3 year plan? Atkinson Tanner Weimann (re-sign) James Just 4. Finances have dictated a slow rebuild. Simpson, King, Klose were temporary / transitional. Baker (re-sign) mid-term. Nowhere near being his team yet in reality.