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18 minutes ago, Mendip City said:

Brought to improve things. He hasn’t. 

He has 

4 minutes ago, Mendip City said:

Fickle? How many were 1) crying out for Pearson to be sacked? 2) wanted Manning as manager? 

Most fans have been lumbered with a situation they didn’t want.  

I was against Pearson sacking at the time but realised that’s the industry we’re in. I was delighted with Manning and still am, criticising Manning for the results Pearson probably would’ve got in the last two. That’s fickle

1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said:

About as embarrassing as your complete lack of concept , recognition or appreciation of what NP did here and how embarrassingly fickle and negative you were and are regarding him. 

Thats the utterly embarrassing part of a entitled part of our fanbase and those who actually deserve L1

I’ve said multiple times I am appreciative of how Pearson stabilised us, but my word he isn’t the messiah as people have made out. He never got us above 14th and we’re currently 12th, if Pearson had a similar run to Manning people would be begging for a new contract

1 minute ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

He’s won 2 league games out of 10. That’s pretty underwhelming for me.

I take my hat off to you fella, in respect of your optimism.
 

Of course, I hope Manning can get us on track as that means a successful Bristol City. I have huge reservations though. 

That’s fine if you have reservations for me I’ve seen enough positives to stay behind it. We’ve already seen some massive highs and positive signs in games and that’s just using Pearson’s players bar Twine for one game and Mebude for even less that that

Just now, petehinton said:

QPR x2, Brum, Millwall, Preston, Leeds, Sheff Wed - absolutely horrific

Watford, Southampton - absolutely superb 

The cons outweigh the pros so far under his reign for me, no hesitation. But have seen enough ‘green shoots’ in the odd games in between to feel relatively positive for the start of next season.
 

Just praying it’s more Oxford v2 than MK v2 for him. 
 

First QPR game was first game so wouldn’t feel it’s fair to judge him on that, Birmingham game we weren’t great but still did enough to win. Rest I can’t disagree with though, think it’s only fair we give him a pre season unless things go really really wrong

These poll results are embarrassing most fickle fanbase in the league

2 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

How can you not find it underwhelming? We’ve just lost to two side in the bottom 3 and the results could’ve been more convincing. I ask what is making it even “standard/middle-whelming” for you?

Did you watch the last 2 fixtures?

You’re talking about two games which have obviously been underwhelming. But that doesn’t mean the entire spell has been?

1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said:

That’s fine,are we performing better under manning than we were under Pearson is all I ask

Hard to say as we don’t know what Pearson would’ve done. I don’t think he beats most of the teams Manning has beaten but maybe he wins some of the games we’ve lost. Like Pearson though I think Manning has done enough to be backed and have a full pre season

2 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

Because Manning has a nigh on full compliment of players at his disposal and took over a side that was solid enough albeit unfashionable. Pearson took over a shambles of a club not just a side. 

The squad we have is a mid table squad and that’s exactly where we are at the minute. Manning hasn’t put a stamp on things yet but has already won 3 on the bounce in the league, beaten the most in form team in the league and beat the European champions in a one off game. Pearson never did any of that in his 3 years in charge, if he deserves time then so does Manning imo

1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said:

Think we all agree with that but because some twerp said we have we have replaced a decent manager with let’s be honest so far a underwhelming one 

I don’t really agree it’s been underwhelming, a lot of it is as expected because we have a mid table squad. Pearson done a good job stabilising the club but I’m personally behind Manning 

23 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

No one is suggesting we didn’t have these runs, but are respectfully questioning why make the change in manager, if we aren’t going to see less of these poor runs. 

But also these are the same players who had these poor runs? Everyone gave Pearson a chance (rightly so) with that god awful squad in 20/21. Why doesn’t Manning get the same patience?

7 minutes ago, 95red said:

Manning  will take us down given the chance .

Absolutely laughable 

1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said:

But the reason he was given the job was because the messiah said we had a top 6 squad,we are further away then ever 

I agree we don’t have a top 6 squad, but that’s not Manning’s fault is it? I’ve always said I’d be happy with top half and that’s where we are 

2 hours ago, sglosbcfc said:

Dear Nigel

I made the mistake of thinking I knew something about football. I replaced an experienced and successful manager with a guy that had never managed above League One and had led MK Dons to the bottom 4. I then told the fans to expect the top six. 

Two of the worse three teams in the division have just comfortably beaten us and our league record is worse under him than you, despite the fact that you could barely name a team due to injuries.

Please come back and save the season

Love

Jon

P.S thanks for getting us the points early doors which mean we are not in a relegation battle now.

Shut up you belter

5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

We were under worse form perhaps, at times we were under a massive FFP issue, injuries worse etc.

Can you pick some sample sizes LEAGUE ONLY.

Pearson in the 2020/2021 season lost 3 on the bounce and 4 on the bounce just in the first couple of months of him being in charge. Manning on the other hand won 3 league games on the bounce which Pearson never was able to achieve

4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

He also inherited a shitshow Edgy, and was accepted point for pound less time than Lee Johnson when weighed for about to back in the market.

Are Manning's results and direction of travel relative to inherited position so different to Edwards v his and Beale v his?

Most managers other than Rohl and Cifuentes have not notably improved their side this season.

I'm not Manning out but let me put it another way..if we get it wrong, rip it up somewhat then we could go backwards, slide back into the bottom 3rd and perhaps even scrapping v relegation.

Manning has us in the top half with 12 games remaining, I maybe wrong of course but I can’t remember Pearson having us this high at this stage. I like Pearson for the record and think he left us in a better state when he took over but it’s time to move on and for me Manning has done more than enough to be backed going forward

8 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said:

Im pleased for you.

Southampton were taken all the way by Huddersfield, and we were at our very best. Way above our levels and they were way below. They were hardly “unbeatable”.

Nothing against you but your optimism and benchmarks sum up where we are, and kind of proves my point.

Southampton came back and beat Huddersfield and their mentality was sky high, the loss against us knocked their confidence and now they’re struggling. Each to their own but Manning has only had a few months and not had a chance to put his authority on this team but still has picked up some great results and for me deserves a full pre season. I’m not happy with the last two results but if this is what has made you disconnect from the club then you must not have supported us for very long

1 hour ago, Redland said:

There is no way that this run of results would’ve been acceptable under Nigel Pearson. After all we are told we have a squad which should be in the top six and we are currently 12th and falling. Only nine points above the relegation places with two defeats in succession against bottom three sides. At this rate even if we avoid relegation this season I can see us being in a relegation battle next season, particularly if we lose the experience of James and Williams in midfield. It seems that there is one rule for NP and the another rule for the replacement.

We’ve been on worse form under Pearson, utterly ridiculous claim. This is Bristol City Football Club, not Nigel Pearson Football Club. The quicker people realise this, the sooner we can move on

1 minute ago, Edgy Red said:

100% correct... i liked Nige and if he was still in charge i would be fine with it, but the quality of football was largely dire (and i don't mean Mebude).

Manning deserves a summer window and a pre-season. If it doesn't work, then so be it, but its not fair to be judging him and writing him off after 3 months.

Happy I’m not the only one, we’ve seen these runs of form and performances before Manning so I don’t get why he’s getting scapegoated on here like it’s something completely new?

44 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said:

Anyone else?

I have followed the club a long while and have been ecstatic, passionate, heartbroken, hopeful, nervous, anxious and everything in-between.

Right now, I feel so disconnected I am genuinely numb to the same old same old, which is worse than any of the emotions above.

The club is just mediocre, boring, dull, beige. Sleepwalking around clinging on to FA Cup wins and draws against poor Premier league clubs.

The transfer window in Jan has to be the worst in living memory when you consider the reason for Manning coming in and our league position, in conjuction with the now infamous “Top 6” quotes - not to mention the endless and meaningless rhetoric/propaganda from the club which accompanies anything we do, which is grating beyond belief.

The pattern of half a step forward and one step back with a strange ray of hope result thrown in amongst the normal dross is also now too common to even care about.

Have a good evening everyone and heres to a 1-1 draw at Palace away in the 3rd round of the Cup next year and the ensuing euphoria around it as the real stuff that matters drifts away even further.

 

10 days ago we were beating a team which seemed unbeatable at the time and now a couple of poor results and this is what we see on this forum? Reality is that we have rarely been above where we are in the league at this moment of time, I have optimism personally that we are set up well for the future but at the moment we don’t have the consistency to be in the conversation for playoffs this season. This is nowhere near the worst I’ve seen the club and I’m far from disconnected personally

5 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

And perhaps that's why Mehmeti didn't play much under Nige.

I don’t think Mehmeti is perfect at all, but there is a player there which I think Manning has got better over time. Pearson preferred Yeboah and Cornick over him which is absolutely hilarious 

1 minute ago, Street red said:

In a way we did but Southampton didn't exactly play well against Huddersfield the week before and they where shocking on the night against us. No you can't take away the way we defended against them and hit them on the break we played to the players strengths that's why we got a result.Manning is another Johnson a couple of wins then a poor run history repeat. Another Tinkerman that doesn't know his strong team a shocking appointment in my opinion.

Easy to say a shocking appointment now but there’s no way you were saying that a week and a half ago. For me, I’m giving him minimum a pre season where hopefully we’ll look like we can break teams down whilst having more of the ball. This was a problem under Johnson, Holden and  Pearson (although his fan club don’t want to admit it)

1 minute ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Not as bad as this actually. The football under Manning on the whole has been dire, worse than SOD era at times and that says a lot. Nige wasnt perfect, but he was dealt a poor hand and should have been given the season and then a carefully considered appointment if no new deal. I am not convinced at all by current strategy. 

Completely disagree, we’d have absolutely lost today under Pearson. As bad as the last two games have been, we also picked up 7 points from Coventry, Leeds, Boro and Southampton. I don’t think we come near that points total with Pearson in charge 

16 minutes ago, Street red said:

You mean the Boro that lost against Plymouth and Southampton to Millwall don't let that paper over the cracks. 

We started Southamptons poor run beating them for the first time in 25 games. Problem is (and has been the case since Lee Johnson) we’ve failed to break down teams near the bottom and subsequently thought we’ve been above that

1 hour ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Seriously without that West Ham win I do wonder. The league form has been terrible, we look so soft again after Nigel had made us tougher to beat. In fact, Southampton aside where are those great pressing performances v likes of Swansea, Plymouth? We didn’t need to make the change and if they did want top six, go for someone with pedigree to continue the good work!

The last two performances have been a real let down as has the January window. Naismith hit nail on the head, clear as day standards were poor. Standards were always in place with this team under Nige and team. Poor, poor season and we go into March heading nearer bottom 3 than the top six target. Congrats all involved with the worst sacking or manager exit since Danny Wilson (oh hang on!). 

Are you honestly trying to say we never had poor performances under Pearson? We had plenty, in fact results like today have been a regular occurrence since we’ve gone back up. I’m willing to give Manning the benefit of the doubt considering he’s only had one window to correct it

Had no idea he was back 2 months ahead of schedule. Massive credit to him and the staff for getting him back, he’s looked really good in the games he’s played imo