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  1. I held my breath for a few hours and went to London today. 

    Family are Bristol fans and they arranged for a coach to the ground and I wanted to go to the spurs stadium. It is fabulous mind. Great game for a neutral. Couldn't tell from where I was sat whether the pass was forward but took the word of the ref with their cameras. 

  2. This whole "behind closed doors". When fans were allowed back in after covid, it was home fans only, (albeit lower numbers) so what's the issue? Are they saying that there are too many home fans in there to play against now? 

  3. 2 hours ago, downendcity said:

    Haven’t the IOC recently announced that it will allow athletes to make political statements/publicise issues from the podium. 

    Opening a potential can of worms?

    That'll be good when Russia win gold, silver and bronze in some event. (Or whatever they'll be called)

  4. 20 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

     

    The word depression takes many given forms and feeling exhausted and not feeling able to fight (an abusive situation in your case) is just one of them.  It doesn't have to mean moping about crying, or lying in bed pulling the duvet over your head - it can bring anxiety, self-harm, apathy, blankness and sudden silly decisions.

    I'm a big burly bear of a bloke who never really worried about too much in life, but job loss, divorce, a sudden plummet in my income and health issues left me with a crushing anxiety.  At one point, I was too worried to answer the phone or look at my mobile. I thought it was going to bring yet more bad news.

    Therapy helped me and now life is peachy. Well, apart from at football. ;)  It will be for you too. 

     

    I don't half recognise a lot in this post from my own experiences over the last nearly 5 years. But the important things are sleep and healthy eating. May seem boring but the sense of a routine does help enormously and then people can build around that. Lots of water as well. Often so overlooked but it's so important. 

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  5. 1 hour ago, CHIPLEY RED said:

    I agree with this statement.

    Whether you agree or not with the sentiment or message is not the point. If you make a justure like this or taking the knee or supporting any other issue then you have to give others the right to disagree. 

    I heard an interesting article on the news this morning where a Russian gymnast won a medal at some event over the weekend and wore a t-shirt with a pro Russian slogan. He is being investigated. But if you can wear a pro Ukranian why not a pro Russian t-shirt. If we start only allowing the things someone thinks is acceptable then we become Russia or worse George Orwells vision 1984.

    I've just seen it. The z emblem. 

    People can try and put the toothpaste back in the tube but tough.

    If people are happy with political statements at sporting events, they'll have to see one's they don't agree with too. And they can't moan about it. 

    Me, I have a blanket dislike for all of them, even if I do agree with it. Not for me. 

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  6. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/dec/13/arsenal-distance-themselves-from-mesut-ozil-comments-china-uighur-people

    Albeit back in 2019, arsenal threw ozil under the bus when he got political with the genocide in China of the uigher Muslims. Their own words from the statement "does not involve itself in politics". 

    Then again they need money from Chinese markets so course they'd stay silent on it. OK for them now to get involved with Ukraine because they don't have financial backlash from it as much. 

    This is why I don't like it. Just one example anyway. Best stay clear but maybe I'm wrong. 

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  7. 4 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

    I think it’s a show of support in terms of suffering , and humanity , rather than political 

    If that was the case, we'd have been doing it for ages for all conflicts across the world. All of a sudden one of our enemies does it and its now in all grounds. I understand the point that you're making, I just think it leaves the door open for a path I don't want it to go down. But maybe this is just modern football. 

     

    1 minute ago, IAmNick said:

    I don't agree with what the Chelsea fans did but it is their right to.

    I just think the line would be too blurred - rememberance day? A minutes silence when the Queen dies? "Kick it out"? There was a guy at half time the other day trying to raise money for a drug the NHS wouldn't fund..  political? Some would say yes and some no to all of those!

    Imo a club represents their community (political in itself) through their history, and part of that representation will naturally filter through.

    I wouldn't want a party political broadcast before the game! Nothing state sponsored.

    The Chelsea fans shouldn't have put in a position where'd they felt the need to do it but I get your point. 

    Remembrance day is once a year and does appear to be the "go to" example for people talking about political things in football. It's not a dig at you by any means. Minute silences are common now or applauses, whichever seems more appropriate. 

    Fully agree with your last point. The issue with political broadcasts is that depending on the escalation of the war in Ukraine, it may come to a time where mp's speak before a game. Whether that's the local constituency mp or a recorded message by the PM. Outside the ground then can do what they like, inside the ground, no thank you. If clubs do intend to put political messages across then it could lead to things like this. Hopefully not but maybe I just think worst case scenario. 

    Apologies if I'm not making my point clear, Sunday morning after all ?

  8. 1 minute ago, IAmNick said:

    I find it hard to understand how this would work - ban clubs from doing it (a political and some would say wrong act in of itself)? If so, what constitutes political?

    I sort of understand people wanting football to be turned into a political safe space for them, but I can't see how it'd work in reality. They always have been linked and always will be - it's not possible to separate two parts of our culture like that.

    It will be tough. Hence why it shouldn't be allowed in in the first place. It allows for loopholes. 

    You'll see, for example, Portugal flags at man utd because of Ronaldo and Fernandes. There would be no reason for a Palestine or Israeli flag at the same ground.

    We'll just see more and more of what the Chelsea fans did as time goes on if fans disagree with the "approved" messages pre game. 

  9. BBC commentator on match of the day last night saying that football and politics are linked now. 

    I don't go or watch football for political messaging. I had enough of that in my academic life. 

    What other "approved" political messages will we get before the end of the season by the clubs and players? 

    Course some of you on here will say that it's ok because you more than likely agree with the message.... Well one day you won't agree with it but they'll do it. Cut it off now before it gets too big. 

    Newcastle are owned by the saudi's. They've been bombing the hell out of Yemen for years now. Man City's owners from the UAE are caught in crossfires now over their relationship with Russia too. I'm sure there are lots of fans who would love to go to spurs away with a load of Palestine flags. (long topic in the politics section on here for anyone who is interested) 

    What's to stop them putting up messages that they want in grounds?  End it now. 

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  10. I do hope that clubs don't do anything. It'll just lead down a path that I don't want it to go down. 

    We supply weapons to the Saudis who are bombing the hell out of Yemen....

    We've bombed the middle east over the last 20 years....

    Then you have players who have shown support for Palestine in their own time. They may want to do that on an official basis, then there may be players who show support for Israel.

    And still none of them will boycott Qatar. 

    Leave it be. 

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  11. On 11/02/2022 at 20:31, The Batman said:

    Bloke I used to play rugby with. His son used to be our waterboy.... He's currently on the bench for England u20's on iplayer. His name is Finn Thomas. 

    We're 6-0 down to Italy with 15 mins to go. Finn will come on and win us the game. 

    Team news just come out. He makes his first England Start tomorrow. 

  12. I don't recall which analysis it was, I think it was sky sports but could be wrong, Chelsea keep chopping and changing their front 3 on a game by game basis. The most times a front 3 have started a league game together is 3 times this season. Different players, different strengths, different movements. No consistency up front. Top heavily reliant on everywhere else on the pitch. Lukaku was supposed to solve their forward "problem". He's made it worse. 

  13. 10 minutes ago, phantom said:

    Towler subbed at half time, the other two were in the last couple of minutes

    Oddly Keith Stroud was the ref that day too

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    I thought he was subbed before half time because he'd got the yellow card and they were targeting him down that side. It wasn't long before half time but I'm certain Pearson was asked about it as to why he didn't wait until half time. 

  14. Bloke I used to play rugby with. His son used to be our waterboy.... He's currently on the bench for England u20's on iplayer. His name is Finn Thomas. 

    We're 6-0 down to Italy with 15 mins to go. Finn will come on and win us the game. 

  15. 1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said:

    Yeah, I think it's worth it. Atmosphere is always class. 

    My lions tickets including the fee were basically £140 each. And that's a once in a lifetime event (well I see it as that but you never know). And that's top of the top elite level. 6 nations tickets being not too much less is great value. 

  16. 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said:

    That why I edited it 

    To be honest I thought once the ref blew the whistle to end the game them that was it. Pre var they'd have just argued with the ref for 5 mins on the pitch and the game would have been a draw. 

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