JP Hampton

And as I’ve said previously, I don’t remember seeing this, in fighting, even when we were losing games under NP?

I quoted your quote you mentioned James as in James Piercy. I didn’t write the name James. Anyway clearly a misunderstanding.

Haven’t read everything as I’m off out but… It occurred to me that if LM recognises he doesn’t have the players to play the model he’s teaching, then something has to Change because that situation, is going to remain the same, for the rest of the season (with the odd player returning from injury, not withstanding). Now we’ll see how he actually performs as a coach, accepting the status quo and actually being forced to return to a style of play that he inherited ie. playing to players strengths, albeit with a longer term focus on developing current and new players in the summer, to the style of play he clearly wants his team to play.

Just a few of things from me fwiw. Ian told us the way that purchasing players is handled. Players are scouted and put to the manager, Ian suggested 5 players, so we’ll go with that. The manager/head coach then chooses which of those 5 he wants. That actually tells us quite a lot. So what if none of those players are what the manager wants? Could this answer Ian’s claim that Pearson was offered players, but apparently didn’t want them? The common denominator here is, that it’s not actually the manager signing off on players of his, actual choosing, not in any real sense. The choices have been made for him, so he has no choice but to accept that. We also know from the players that were signed under NP, that some of those choices then were League 1 players, would he really have signed those above some championship players? I can’t believe that for a second. When the budget only allows for a certain level of player, your hands are very much tied. If NP really wanted Mehmeti why did her rarely play him? I think the other big take away is Ian often says “we know that’s true because BT said so”. It’s just a shame we don’t have anyone else’s “truth” than BT to compare it with.

Yes and?

Hmmm. I think the management would be the last to know if I was a player and had lost confidence in them. I’d be keeping my head down and just hoping I could convince everyone everything was fine. If and I repeat if players are getting frustrated and we can see some most definitely are, it’s only a matter of time before they look to someone to blame, especially if they get wind of the fact they themselves are being blamed.

Yes it certainly appears to be a weekly swap, of like for like players and the problem with that is, players don’t really get to own their positions. I know you want competition for places in games, but players don’t even seem to be rewarded, by previously playing well. If you have a pretty good idea you’re going to be hooked after an hour no matter what, Conway and Wells particularly how is any real feeling of confidence to grow. I think Piercy’s right. It was by no means the worst performance we’ve seen, but players looked stuck. It’s hard to see any other reason for player’s looking dull and uninspired, than their being restricted to play a system that offers nothing. As I’ve said in another thread. I think it’s very telling, the arguments between players, we’ve not seen that before, even during the low times during NPs tenure and it makes me wonder if fear of being singled out for blame, by a manager who looks to blame his players for defeats, is partly behind it. To me players getting angry also means they care, which makes this whole situation for them and us all the more frustrating.

Yeah seeing better days at West Brom!

“Get out there and employ a manager with cahuna’s, one with a CV that demands respect from his players“ Trouble is managers with cahunas don’t fare well at Bristol City, but I agree it’s exactly what we need right now. We weren’t ready for this new model and we’re now paying for it.

Yeah who would have ever thought Vyner would improve like he did.

Yeah it was a strange thing with NP. Like you, we never missed games under NP. I think it was feeling confident. Not confident we’d win, but absolutely confident the person who was supposed to be in charge, was in charge. A confidence in seeing players actually giving a sense of being a team and wanting to play, it was great to see. I think that’s what makes our situation now so disappointing, seeing players confidence drop and their desire to play, get less and less each game.

Well done for trying but in the words of my old teacher could try harder

Unfortunately for Ian, our memories are intact

Wow, don’t remember him giving such allowances for NP!!

We won’t be hearing from any of them once again, until we’re safe (fingers crossed) and then they’ll tell us how lucky we are that they’re going to give LM lots of money in the summer.

Yes, even if they get a good one they don’t back him!

My very real concern is that even if Manning went, which I highly doubt, who on earth would come here? After all that’s happened over this season, not least, the sacking of NP, honestly who?

Yeah can’t see them getting rid of him. They’ll avoid communicating with fans and keep their heads down praying we get to the end of the season in the Championship. They will give him money in the summer and come out of the woodwork, all positive about what we’re going to do in the new season.

Right

Agree. You have to at least stick to your principles whatever they may be. How can we expect players or fans to believe in him as the way forward. I have no proof of course but the way the players played today, reminds me of so many games, just before we’ve got rid of a manager. Something tells me he won’t be going anywhere though.

Exactly right.

That’s says a lot about the player’s mentality cos that seems to be happening more and more spats between players recently.

Oh dear.

And this is completely on the owners cos they were the players he was given and told were top end ready. Did people say “they’re not Pearson’s players? Genuine question.

Wasn’t able to go today. Chris Honour said he’d not heard boos like it.