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Against Lazio too. 

9 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Anyone else find the concept of "matchworn" merch absolutely rank. Bet those shirts ******* stink.

But then again you'd have to sweat for that to happen and most of our lot never get that hot. 

You can wash them you know?

9 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

A very, very decent result back then. 

Fond memories of that game. Think Phillips made a great double save. 

I remember the first game in the 90's too as the Everton fans made a very young me cry when they invaded the pitch. 

I'm not against it and I generally oppose the idea that sport is set apart from politics, however it does pose an awkward question on how many other countries compete despite the awful crimes committed against their own people and also other countries. 

FIFA and other sporting bodies have made it hard to apply these sort of rules due to their own indifference and corruption in the race for money in recent years. 

Definitely think the players and individual nations can make their own choices so it's good to see solidarity.  It's probably that which will force the authorities hands. 

12 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

Sunderland weren’t on a steady decline though when they sacked him, yes they got dicked by Bolton but they were top the week before and LJ was reigning manager of the month!  Crazy decision to sack him

I think the sacking was harsh, but didn't the teams below have 2-3 games in hand when they were top which does slightly alter the situation imo. 

1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

In the North Counties,  East League Division One.  10th tier. A long way down.

Yep just had a little Google and watched the highlights of the FA Cup game. I was quite young then, but remember playing the likes of them and St Alban's which was a while before. 

18 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

Not to mention Harrogate Railway !

Didn't realise that they weren't the same team. 

I'm curious to know why in the middle of January he has left Carlisle to go to Adelaide. Mind boggling. 

Nice pictures by the way. 

And there's a goalkeeper I read his autobiography can't remember his name. 

Ah here he is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutz_Pfannenstiel

I agree they have to move a lot and be average. 

The answer is Trevor Benjamin. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Benjamin

Going to look on YouTube, but any mainstream channels showing highlights? Thought BBC might. 

Just now, AshtonGreat said:

I dunno. I don't have much respect for someone who's happy to sit on the bench while picking up in one week what most people earn in 1-2 years

He's been asking to leave hasn't he? Been a long running saga with Arsenal wanting to keep him, but him asking to leave if he's not going to play. 

Apparently he was acting similar against Derby so seems part of his persona. 

49 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

Blackburn and QPR both went through restructuring and financial pain . Both have good solid managers . Shows what we can aim for but it is slow progression . For non PP clubs this is how it is . Whilst it might seem mad , we are closer to those clubs than results seem . Our league has 14/16 non pp clubs who are all very similar imho . Keeping Scott and Benarous 2 years is key for us . Those boys are going to be the difference . We need to get to the Prem with them 

Last season too . You could see what they were building . We will get there . Patience 

Warburton was under a bit of pressure for a bit too. 

On 09/12/2021 at 12:12, billywedlock said:

The lawyers are quite good at these things these days. Of course the variables are so huge it is impossible as fans to have a clue about what could be due. Impossible withour reading a contract. Pretty much like players wages too. It is quite worth listening to the BBC interview with Micah Richards about how he went from £5k a week to £50k as a ... teenager . 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/59527230

That's just madness isn't it? I'd struggle to keep a check on reality if I came into 50k a week now. If I was 18 and they were paying it to me every week I'm not sure I'd be here. Even 5k a week is an astonishing amount of money even in a short career. I like Richards too and he was really good at that age. Bit sad to hear he's in property, but appreciate its the done thing and there's no context there. 

So so bad. I had planned to book some time off for this, but I'm so glad I didn't. 

2 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

 

I see the episode goes on for almost two hours.

Is there anybody who has watched, who is able to indicate, approximately, where Ben Foster appears talking about NP?

Thanks in advance.

7-10 minutes in if I remember correctly. 

31 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

Whilst people might be drawing comparisons with Huddesfield today on their squad against ours.

Let' not forget that:-

A) They were awful last season, and were in the bottom six most of the season.

B) Were in receipt of Parachute payments that allowed an easier transition from a PL club to a Championship one.

C) Were able to get rid of most of the High earners during the summer. We are still lumbered with a majority of ours until Summer 2023.

D) Despite their failings last season with a young new manager. They didn't panic, even though they had been a PL for a couple of seasons a few years before; sack him; and try to bring someone new in.

Let's not forget, if we had beaten them today we would have been level on points with them in the league.

Yes, this season is a real struggle and the football is extremely poor at times. But I fail to see how making a change now  would be anything other than a massive gamble that could easily backfire on us again.

NP said a 3 year project when he started (probably based on the summer 2023 as mentioned above).

The graphs on budgets to turnover, and the earnings from transfer fees show how we've wasted a golden opportunity over the last 4 years to progress.

We have to do things differently, and that will require people to understand that there will be good performances, bad performances; and sometimes awful performances. That is City at the moment.

The main thing is we need to stay in this division during this financial/team rebuild. It's not going to be pretty; but it is, what it is

Good post. I'm also reminded of Warburton at QPR who was under a fair bit of pressure not that long ago, but slowly turned it around. I can understand why people are frustrated with the performances though. 

Don't see why missing a couple of games would result in a recall. That's a reality of football, and whilst you want your young players playing you also want them to understand the fight to get back into the team. 

I could understand why we take him back to loan him higher. I am over that way next month so will tempted to drop in if they are there. 

2 hours ago, CyderInACan said:

And you can’t get a PCR test either currently 

Showing as avaliable for me? Currently waiting on a result after test on Sunday.... 

3 hours ago, BTRFTG said:

Good points all hence my stressing data informs nothing and it's interpretation in subjective.

You can definitely use data effectively, but there would be better ways to use data about mental health provision than comparing suicide rates. 

3 hours ago, 2015 said:

It is rather funny that those who despise the Tories on here and despise Boris Johnson yet still go along with every restriction he puts in place and his 'opposition' support him in doing so. 

I don't believe a word any politician or scientist come out with anymore - they are all corrupted by power, personal agenda's and money in my opinion.

Hardly anyone I know has done anything because Johnson and the Tories have told them too. In fact most have gone further particularly this time last year when it was fairly clear the government were ******* around. Also all the weird rules like being able to go to the pub, but not being able to do something that seemed much less risky. 

Political party didn't really come into it as most of us work in health care and so I guess see it from that angle. It made sense to try and limit the spread as much as possible. There's also that desire to want to help protect vulnerable people, either by stopping the spread, or supporting those that were isolating etc. Worth pointing out that none of us have been perfect in this so it's not a case of "I'm better than you."

I think generally the public have at times taken their own measures that were more proactive than the ones the government were suggesting. 

Of course if society was set up differently in the first place and preparations put in place then it probably wouldn't ever have got as bad. We'll hopefully learn a lot from this. 

2 hours ago, BTRFTG said:

Data tells nothing. Interpretation of data, that's of interest but is, of course, subjective.

It's also untrue to assume any difference in year to baseline is attributable to an identified factor. It might be, might not be.

Take suicide. Read the press and you'd think there was an epidemic, that there must be a reason for all the tragic stories we daily encounter (and tragic they most certainly are.) Yet in truth the suicide rate is pretty much at an all time low, an 80% reduction on what was observed in Victorian Britain and they didn't have Covid. Or Cancer, there is an epidemic of that but it's primary cause in most cases is something whose identification really doesn't help - we live longer, far longer than biologically we've evolved to last. On the one hand that's a brilliant thing, but comes quid pro quo with an inevitable downside.

If you look at improvements in healthcare, nutrition and lifestyle over the past 50 years there's an uncomfortable conclusion to be drawn. For the past few decades, statistically at least, not enough of us have been dying. In the UK that's been running at around 180-200k deaths avoided each year. Problem being, we're not immortal and inevitably, even if we do great things, the death rate must and will increase. It's how such things work.

I'm not really sure you can compare suicide in Victorian times with now. There was a distinct lack of knowledge about mental health then and as far as I am aware no support beyond putting people away. 

There are serious problems with mental health provision in this country, and not all of it results in suicide, but does lead to long term damage to everyone involved. Suicide rates only tell a small part of the story and aren't really a good way to tell how good and effective provision is. There is still a distinct lack of knowledge now too. 

Kind of fortunate for Harry that the mods deleted his Nazi/Syringe picture last night as that highlighted his true character. (See it's now your avatar. Classy.) 

I'm not huge on covid passports. Comparing it to the restrictions that were in place during Nazi Germany is cold. Keeping in mind this government have done the absolute minimum they could get away with at times it doesn't even add up to some great big conspiracy.

The government don't need a pandemic to exercise it's control over us and most of us. See you mentioned the policing bill earlier. Considering your attitude towards it last year that raised a chuckle. Start a petition or something eh. 

It was this thread that made you flounce last time let's hope you can hold it together a bit easier this time.