W-S-M Seagull

Yes because all the successful teams in the world are successful because the players are telling the manager how they want to play. We have a chairman who admits he doesnt lead. We have a manager who doesn't lead. It's just all rather incredible.

Mate we all know these same people that are applauding Manning for at the very most equalling last season, would have been absolutely raging if Pearson remained and he delivered the same. I made it very clear at the start of the season I expected progression. That expectation remained for both managers and it has not been met. Offers expectations have suddenly shifted because Manning can do no wrong for them, because of their dislike of Pearson and a shear desperation to be right about Pearson.

Mate, stick to speaking about pasta.

It's a bit of 2+2 but Jon mentioned that everyone that comes into the club including the manager would have to adjust to our style which is front foot high pressing football. He mentioned how before the international break we played differently. So whilst it's correct that he didn't say "I told Liam to play differently" to me, he heavily insinuated that. When you add in the context that Liam did suddenly change our style then it all does add up. This change in style did coincide with SL making an appearance in the stands. Although I totally respect if you don't perceive his comments that way.

I'm saying it again because there is a topic of conversation around it following Jon's interview in which he described the season as "broadly positive"

He adjusted cos his job was on the line and he was told to adjust. He came in here with an attitude of his way was the best way (despite it being the opposite of the given brief) he carried on with it. Bored us all to death. As a football fan I have every right to speak about our style of play yet you somehow have an issue with a football fan talking about football. Says it all. He sacrificed our season for his way when it was plainly clear the squad was not suited to his way. I'm annoyed by that. I of course said from day 1 about his style and our style not matching so it's not with the benefit of hindsight. Stop lying mate. It's hard to debate with someone that lies. I'm always active. I'm active now after we won the other day so that's your theory blown out of the water. It's the trolling that's intolerable. Its boring. Its tedious. If you don't like my opinions, put me on ignore or scroll past. Very very simple. Yes it's absolutely true that I did not think he is the right fit for us and that we are more likely to regress than progress under him. I still hold those views today. Drop the crap about it having anything to do with anything else. It's simply based on that. Are you OK Ross? You seem to have an issue with me calling out people that have used personal insults against me?

That's what the nest egg is for Just once again a huge shame that we didn't invest in the summer. Just a couple of million like all of us were calling for and maybe we'd still have something to play for now. That's what the nest egg is for Just once again a huge shame that we didn't invest in the summer. Just a couple of million like all of us were calling for and maybe we'd still have something to play for now.

Not quite sure why Tim and Tom have felt the need to facepalm me stating an obvious fact that a club is the fans and not the ownership. Says it all.

Simple. The club isn't the board or the manager. This is our club. The lies etc from the likes of JL has fractured the fanbase. It's not just me.

But as Jon said today, we'd be looking to recruit another Liam Manning basically. Until he has another idea of a different club that we want to emulate that is.

No. That's the narrative you and the others want to create because you can't stand it that others call out how crap this club has been run. There are others that also post the same yet its the same old people such as yourself who constantly troll me. I always add context to my opinions so it's quite bizarre how you think that. Am I not allowed to comment on things that happen? Only allowed to post my opinion once? To make this very very clear, I want Bristol City to succeed. My thoughts on how that is achieved is different to yours. Thats fair enough. My feelings are that we will not succeed under Manning and will more than likely fail and as a Bristol City fan thats what i dont want to happen and that's what my posts are about. It's my prerogative to have those thoughts.

And? Isn't that what a forum is for? If Manning has your full backing, fair play to you. It would be a boring world if we all had the same opinions.

Yes, let's say Peterborough have got a 20% sell on, we'd then get whatever our sell on % was of the 20%.

It's hilarious Dave. We hired a head coach that didn't fit with what we wanted like many of us on here suggested. It then sounds like he had to be told to play a different way and then it's no surprise that as soon as we play a style that's more suited to the squad we have, we get better results. Didn't these conversations happen during the recruitment interview? Its just incredible. My thoughts on Manning are clear. It's going to take a very long time for me to move past him going rouge this season.

It's good to hear its on the table. But I spoke to the club years ago about this at it was on the table back then too. It just seems to have stagnated. We need to see positive steps taken because in 2024 it just isn't acceptable. Neurodiversity is very complex by its very nature, i'm still learning every single day. There isn't a one size fits all solution like there is with providing facilities for those that are less abled. For example my son uses a sensory room at school multiple times a day. However there will be over people where a sensory room wouldn't suit their needs and they may just prefer a quiet room they can escape to where the match is playing on a TV for example. I've noticed the club now sell ear defenders in the club shop which is a tiny step forward. I don't know how much they cost tho. But it would be nice if the club did a scheme where you could borrow a pair for a match as sometimes they can be accidentally left at home. I'm sure there are lots of other small things the club could do that wouldn't cost much at all.

How can you try and claim that the 2024 Vyner is the same as the 21/22 Vyner that was on his way out of the club. You've said some right bs before Lez? But this tops it all.

"There is no reason not to be excited" Well considering the maximum we've achieved this season is equalling last season, I'm not too sure what I'm supposed to be getting excited by? I'm pretty sure at this point our club is just a meme.

We are not better and have not taken the steps forward that we all expected us to take.

I think it shows that the City of Bristol and indeed the whole region is crying out for success. We've seen it with attendences at AG for he men's team and the rugby, England ladies, England u21s etc etc etc. It is a huge shame that Lansdown decided not to invest. He'll probably now spend years 'investing' to try and get back in the WSL. I just hope the ship hasn't sailed and that we are able to get back there shortly.

I will be mortified if in this instance they issue a ban. Any such ban in these circumstances would not look good and would be open to a legal challenge so I hope they do the right thing and offer this father support so that they can attend safely in the future. Whilst the club do some fantastic things off of the pitch and if you contact them on a 1-1 basis they can be really helpful, but by and large it is shocking that in 2024 we do so little to support our neurodiverse fanbase to attend matches. I do accept that maybe the funding isn't there etc but if we truly want to be the community club we try to portray ourselves to be then we really must do better for all. Caring costs nothing.

But it was ok for the likes of Coventry to not have a 10 year lease. Not even sure Coventry have that now tbh. Think it's only 4 years now.

Personally I would absolutely love for there to be a seating section that is for neurodiverse people and their carers. Somewhere that is accessible, safe and secure with a quiet room attached. With a policy of zero tolerance of bad behaviour from the carers. The club have done a fantastic with the facilities for the less abled. Now it needs to do more for those with less visible disabilities. This while situation would have been avoided if we had the facilities I've mentioned above. Other clubs do it. So we should too. Ashton Gate should be an inclusive stadium for all and it hurts me that it currently isn't. This thread has really hurt my heart that this father was in this position. As soon as I saw the father run on the pitch I knew this wasn't a typical pitch invasion.

I kinda felt at the time it was something like this. But as a father of an autistic child myself thats why I had those thoughts as these things are a daily challange. We as a society must get better at not judging things unless we know the full story.

Me and my son are men's season ticket holders. We only went along today because he asked me too because he supports Man City. We had some great banter between us ad he was cheering on Man City and I was cheering on us. You can't do that at a men's game. That was his first women's game. So what if he only wanted to go because we were playing Man City. Better than being out on the streets creating trouble. Don't know why you're letting this bother you. It has zero impact on your life. I actually found it refreshing seeing so many boys being really excited about watching a women's game. That is huge progress.

That was my first women's game in over 20 years. The last time being when England played at the memorial. Really enjoyed it. It was just a totally different atmosphere to the men's game. Basically no idiots shouting swearwords every 2 seconds. It was really refreshing and something the men's game needs to learn from.