REDOXO

9 hours ago, Davefevs said:

So, basically top-pro Weimann wants to play to get himself in the shop window.  Doesn’t quite say whether the trigger was in his favour, although I suspect it was.  Nige was quite in favour of contracts that dangled carrots.  Had he stayed and got the games to trigger, I wonder if he’d have chose to exercise the option and extend.  Guess that was taken out of his hands.

Not criticising the club here, but need to be careful they don’t lose all of the “culture club” this summer.

Rumour on twitter that Williams has extended, same person suggesting Cornick fixed up to leave.

 

If Manning had wanted Weimann none of it would have mattered he would have got his game time and extension. 
 

Unless

Influences above Manning told him don’t play him? This would have put Weimann effectively in his last year and if I’m not mistaken in a position through his reps to talk to other clubs I guess?

12 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Yeah, I know, just highlighting the incompetence across the “board” (no pun intended).

What a shit-show!

The ineptitude is quite staggering on the face of it. 

The sacking of the CEO

No one as the public face of the club. A Chairman who really doesn’t want to deal with fans and the media and won’t unless he absolutely has to

A Technical Director who recommend a manager with no experience at being anything else than someone else’s assistant coach except a failed stint at MK which if I’m not mistaken got them relegated eventually and HALF a season at Oxford that had them challenging for a play off spot. 
 

That same Head Coach brought in to take over from……blah blah blah… I could go on and on. 
 

Everything at the club is beyond incompetence. It’s as if someone wants to destroy everything that has been built since 2015.

The appointment of Johnson followed by Holden were bizarre. The appointment of Manning over Pearson and then the firing of all Pearson’s staff is utterly stupefying.

Who the hell is calling the shots here? Why do we as supporters keep showing up to watch a side that does nothing but bear the name of the club we have all supported since children?

The only thing I can think of is blind loyalty to an institution that only exists in our heads. 
 

Just rename the club My Money My Choice FC and let’s be done with it!

I’m sure Mr Manning feels his position is at risk. 

9 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

I`m thinking more along the lines of a version of one of those things the trains used to have to grab the mail without stopping. SL could just fly over @BigTone`s country estate and scoop him up in a net.

Would have to be a bloody big net mind!

I like it. Leave him swinging around while a Steve flunky serves us Champers! 

I stopped reading at behaviours. 

1 hour ago, BigTone said:

He has a private jet doesn't he ?  Why not use that ?

Exactly. We’ll swing by an airfield near you. Job done!

1 hour ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

Is it strange that London is in the UK or that somebody would post it on here ?

We have a supporter in London Ontario!   

We actually do!

If Steve could fess up for the occasional airline ticket. That would be nice! 

1 hour ago, SecretSam said:

WTF else is there in Stoke?

Port Vale?

1 hour ago, JAWS said:

Fair points RO but a bit offended by the nonsense shout! 

I wasn’t just referring to you!  

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I posted a while back that I wondered if he’d had some form of epiphany, ie what am I gonna do with my life.  This was off of the back of hearing a story that Jon had asked to become CEO, but instead of giving him the role it was a bit like - “you carry on being Chairman, but I’ll put a safety blanket of Gavin, Tom and Brian around you whilst you prove yourself”.

More than possible David. However I’m not sure the epiphany wasn’t a bit of a two way street. 
 

JL What am I going to do with my life dad?

SL Yeah what are you going to do with your life?

SL Thinks….. I know I’ll give you that football club, perhaps they’ll like you more! I’ll let Brian know! 
 

12 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

These minority vocal supporters wanted this type of head coach that draws silly arrows on the training pitch. 

They wanted a 'football manager' head coach. The thought by having anAI head coach we'd achieve success simply by having better tactics blah blah blah.

Now they've got that there is a sudden realisation by them that real life football isn't a computer game. 

It's hilarious to see those people that were so invested in Nige out and Manning in suddenly turn on Manning too. 

This is their guy, they need to own that! 

We certainly do have an anal head coach!

Some good points among some nonsense. 
 

My thought for a while (and stated before) is JL has been handed the club as something to do. 
 

Major decisions are ran by papa but, JL needs experience as one day he will be at the helm of dads empire. Just a fact! 
 

What better way to get experience than to piss off thousands of people by making shit decisions on your learning curve.
 

The firing of The CEO, Pearson, his team and the promoting of BT to Technical Director are horror decisions. Yes probably ran by pop, but he’s on his own! 
 

If you are SL, JL is a lot easier to take ******* up Bristol Sport and learning something, than slopping around on a yacht! 

17 hours ago, Selred said:

I personally think you're a bit short in the memory.

We are mid table, yes going backwards, but highly unlikely to be relegated. It's not like the days under S'OD / McInnes of late.

We have a squad who played with pride earlier in the season. Again, not like the massive wages we had on dead wood earlier in the season.

We have multiple academy players in the squad, it's not like under Gary where we didn't have any youth.

Even as a squad, we are fairly young. It's not like we have lots of older players on longer contracts.

Yes Manning-ball is dire. Tinnion and JL are out of their depth. But there's also so much potential here, as seen in glimpses under Nigel.

 

I agree regarding the potential.
 

However Mr Manning is strangling the life out of that too! He wants to bring in his own players and block the pathway. 
 

I so wish I had never heard this man’s name!

Mannng has turned one of the best strikers in the division and certainly a player that had a shot at the Euros. Into a **** no chance nothing!

I look forward to Tommy’s autobiography’s Mannng was a **** section!  

One of those BJs would be good! Occasionally!

6 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Wasn’t it Matt Withers?

The golden rule of draws is ensure to avoid all looks of impropriety! 
 

However I’m sure Matt’s win was on the up n up!

I did start to write and tell them not a chance I’m renewing until I can see a way forward. But thought better of it. 
 

Sometimes silence really is golden. 

I don’t need to look at win result stats that are skewed by non availability. 
 

I can see what’s in front of me!

FYI for those that are unclear. You are watching very poor football, with little attacking intent from a team that was lorded as a top half team! 
 

My personal opinion is under the right manager with decentish availability they could very well be up there and chasing a playoff place like Mr L junior and Mr Tinnion implied. However under this utterly useless man and his cohorts we are a fringe relegation ‘challenger’ that plays in front of empty stadiums, because season ticket holders can not be arsed to show up!

Hope that helps someone! 

8 hours ago, Red Skin said:

Parachute payments have completely undermined the championship as a competition.  They seemed to be a knee jerk response to clubs like Barnsley that collapsed after relegation from the top flight because they failed to build relegation terms into players contracts.

It's been interesting to hear some of the conversations around Forest's points deduction.  One defence I've heard is that as a club promoted they needed to buy a whole new squad of players if they were to have any chance of competing in the Premiership.  

So why not change the model?

Scrap parachute payments and instead use the money to give promoted clubs a golden hello so that can have a better chance of competing in the top flight? 

The golden hello is built in to promotion obviously 
 

Parachute payments need to be far less with money distributed among the otherclubs IMO. However as much as webitch about the the money, the same disparity is becoming obvious between championship and league one. 

I will be hitting the ignore this topic button. I suggest anyone sane does the same!

1 minute ago, Bcfc willzyak said:

I wondered to my self if we never had beaten Southampton would manning still be in his job now?

 

move this to a thread you find appropriate if don’t want another thread  

Don’t move it!!

It is actually a good question! 
 

I was bloody furious after Leeds at home. We were awful all over the pitch, but at that point apologists for this shitshow were still making excuses. Parachute payments blah blah as if their parachute payments were an excuse for a pathetic performance by us. 
 

City played well enough against Southampton, but it gets forgotten they could comfortably have been two up before we scored. 
 

I personally think he would still be here now if they had beaten us back then as the same excuses would have been trotted out back then. 
 

But he and possibly Tinman would be a game closer to the tin tack. 
 

However I think a largish defeat against Leicester will be enough!

10 hours ago, SecretSam said:

Where's Kate Middleton's hand?

7 hours ago, elhombrecito said:

I mean, I'd probably take that right now... 

Mmm!

I enjoyed it but I think there was stuff that was plain wrong!

We all must know we were sold a pup on the basis of Pearson’s sacking. But the inference that his leg issue was an overwhelming reason is just plain propaganda wrapped up in excuses for this idiocy. 

43 minutes ago, Superjack said:

 

The club is pretty sophisticated in some ways, like most in the championship. 
 

There are lists of players that are updated constantly. This I am informed applies to managers and coaches. 
 

For the firing of Pearson his team and hiring of Manning to have taken place that quickly he must have been top of the list and obviously already identified. (I’ll brush over the scumbaggery that went along with it in which JL and BT were front and center)

I just hope the new bloke is already identified and the laughably called board of directors are tapping him up as we speak!