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Up the City 

9 minutes ago, ProfitInMyPocket said:

Do we HAVE to go back every time we win the ball back. The amount of times we pinch the ball in an area and we pass back when there's space to move in to.

We are doing half decent in pinching the ball and can drive into space but nope gotta recycle it back and let them settle. 

Drives me insane, the chance is there to catch them out. So passive.

 

Ah but if you’re passing backward it’s going to someones front foot.  Snakey Bris’ 4d chess with another W 

Just now, freezer said:

"desert" as in dry and barren land? That's not sweet!

I’m more a savoury person 

I’ve banged through half a bottle of red, had a lovely dinner…now just need City to give me a fitting desert. 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-city-bristol-rovers-agree-9143764.amp
 

It will be interesting to see how much this raises the profile of the EFL internationally 

Absolutely not. 

Tuesday night games seem to throw up some surprise results. I wouldn’t rule out a decent performance here.  

5 hours ago, fgrsimon said:

He could certainly terrify defenders but rarely goalkeepers sadly. He was great until he got into the penalty area but then people in row Z would start to duck. Actually can't remember if his crossing was any good? but my abiding memory is of the ball flying into the stand.

Yeah, Bent and composure weren’t bedfellows.  
 

Exciting player though.  My memory tells me he was one of the fastest players in the country, I’m sure it was in Match or Shoot 

46 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Really like Foden but what shocked me when he played against us was how fast he was. Knew he was quick but not as fast as he was that night. 

I was shocked how quick Robbie Fowler was when watching him for the first time - not as quick as peak Michael Owen, but I certainly wouldn’t have fancied defending against that. 

8 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

The best bit is that there's not even a press conference scheduled.

The improved communications is going well then

Ironic post title, as Liam hates bingo. Much prefers the calmness of chess. 

21 minutes ago, Red Skin said:

 

Unless we get very lucky, it's gonna take time and be painful.  Probably a couple of coaches, a DoF, and maybe even a relegation to achieve if we are serious about seeing it through.  So, those posters who say they didn't sign up for another rebuild and/or keep banging on about top 6 squad etc had better find a more healthy way to adjust to the new reality than getting increasingly furious.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's not our first rodeo in the space though.  This is the 3rd different approach in 8 years and it frankly bores me that the only constant in that, is the involvement of people who make the wrong decisions.

IF I thought that we'd see this through, I'd probably grit my teeth and at least try and be enthusiastic, but given the context above, I can't see why anyone would think "this will have a pay off".  It wont. A wantaway owner covered by a bargain basement exec team is not going to lead to longevity in any approach, it's mad to think otherwise.  

1 minute ago, beaverface said:

The club honestly needs to be arguing back to them. Make both games a Saturday only, or Sunday only, and make it a 1:30\2pm kick off. Minimise the amount of disruption to local grass roots.

Indeed. This unanswerable public bodies need reminding who they actually work for. 

I liked how they formed an orderly queue.  

1 minute ago, Redshorts said:

Going to be interesting to see if there will be a price increase in season tickets.

I think the club gets an additional £2.5m from the new TV deal, so there could be room not to. 

3 hours ago, Street red said:

Or the service was bloody slow and by the time you got served the food had completely sold out. Poor to any standard. But yes we didn't rush back in

It’s telling that it wasn’t that long ago that there would be glossy graphics showing what was sold over a weekend. 
 

That point of pride seems to have been been binned off, a long with the effort. 

13 minutes ago, Slack Bladder said:

In the fallout/carnage of the Nigel Pearson sacking I thought I heard Jon Lansdown admit communication with the fans wasn't very good and they needed/would to do better going forward.

Well, all is strangely silent again from the board/chairman we still seem to hear sweet FA from them.

Tinnion seems to disappear when there is the slightest bump in the road and won't be back on Twitter until we are in the Prem 

So, I hope Jon stands by his words and does an interview sometime soon, hopefully without vetting the questions beforehand. I would just like to know what's happening before they ask us to put our hands in our pockets for season ticket renewals 

We don’t even have programme to have fortnightly “chairman’s notes” or something.  
 

1 hour ago, Back of the Dolman said:

And probably don’t go into hysteria and panic mode like we do here when we have a bit of snow

That’s because they actually get snow.  

Re Wilson, I seem to remember one of Jon’s forum mates writing a letter to the Evening Post around the same time, calling for Wilson to go. Do wonder if it was all orchestrated now. 

I don’t know. I had planned to move from the family stand nightmare zone, to the lower Lansdown.  A hefty increase but worth it.
 

Yea the football is woeful and we’re run by mugs, but it’s worth it to take the kids . Someone on another thread mentioned value, and that’s where I get mine from. 
 

However:

How much of an impact is the new tv deal going to have - I think the club should be very open on how many games will be Saturday 3pm as a %.
 

We don’t know what division we’ll be in yet. 

1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said:

You wouldn't renew because of the lack of entertainment - but you might if it was a bit cheaper..?

That makes no sense atall.

 

It does. He’s placing the value on entertainment, and doesn’t feel the current offering matches the asking price. 
 

Just now, Henry said:

Do tell…

Yeah @Kid in the Riot share 

6 minutes ago, Harry said:

For the last few years, Bristol City FC has been attempting to create its own ‘model’. Their idea of the optimum way to run a football club to provide it with the best chance of success. 
 

The ‘Model’ is supposed to be one where everything at the club is ‘aligned’.
It says that all of our teams from the under 8’s through to the first team will play the same way. 
I’m not sure that’s quite such a good idea but hey ho. 
But the most crucial element for me is that the model says that the first team will play a certain way and that we have a ‘Technical Director’ to oversee this and ensure it’s on track and everything is aligned. 
 

Personally, at this level of football, I don’t think that works. 
The scene is such that, any manager coming into the club should be of a certain ‘type’ and conform to a certain set of principles. 
The club have created a philosophy (call it an identity if you like) as to how they want to play football and any manager should align (there’s that word again) with that. 
 

The Technical Director runs the recruitment side of the business. 
He determines what players we sign and what manager and coaches we sign. He will try to conform to the club principles and appoint managers and coaches who will ‘fit’ and sign players who will ‘fit’. 
 

We see this sort of model at the top end of the game. Many of the biggest clubs run on a Director of Football type of model, where the manager has only limited say in the player recruitment and is basically just tasked with getting on with it, with the rather expensive tools he is provided. 
 

This doesn’t work at our level. We see this in all it’s gory (yes, not glory) with the Tinnion/Manning appointment. 
 

We have a club philosophy that desires to play in a certain way and players have been signed to attempt to slot into that style. 
We now have a manager who has been appointed who clearly likes to adopt a very different philosophy. 
I don’t blame Manning for this. We approached him. He didn’t apply for this job. He had a clear and evident CV, a body of work behind him, that was obvious to anyone who bothered to look that was at odds with our own club model. 
 

Furthermore, this new manager, whilst not having players who can play his way, doesn’t have very much say in how to fix this. 
His first transfer window and we make 4 permanent signings - 3 of which we wanted before the new manager got here. So the new manager arrives, doesn’t have players he wants and then the ‘club model’ signs 3 players that ‘the club model’ wanted. 
 

This is a huge issue for me. We are attempting to recreate models that have had success at places like Brighton, Brentford and even bloody Luton. But whilst those clubs had certain recruitment models, they didn’t dictate a ‘playing philosophy’ throughout the club. They just had very thorough and clever scouting and recruitment modelling. It didn’t dictate the playing style. Whenever there was a manager change the new boss still has his own free reign in terms of how he played and the recruitment model would then have to ‘align’ with the managers philosophy - not the other way round. 
 

When Dean Smith took over from Mark Warburton, he did things differently and they recruited accordingly. Likewise when Frank then took over from Smith, he had different philosophies on pressing, defensive positioning, midfield solidity etc. and the club then recruited accordingly. 
Luton played a certain way under Jones, but when Edwards arrived he harnessed what was already good but brought his own style to it and the club then recruited accordingly. 
 

What we have at Bristol City is a dictatorial model, whereby the Technical Director and Recruitment Team have defined a model and anyone that arrives at the club must buy-in to that model. There is no wavering. Yes, a new manager might have a bit of a say in some signings but generally they are targeted based on our defined modelling. 

Surely it’s obvious to anyone that this just doesn’t work. The talk of ‘everything at this club is aligned, from the under 8’s to the first team’ is just a false platitude. It’s a strapline that they think is clever “hey look at us, we’ve got an identify and model, we’re unique”.

That might work well at Barcelona or Man City but it’s pointless in the championship. It’s not what will actually bring success on the pitch. 
 

To achieve success on the pitch at this level you need a manager who is allowed to run the first team in his own way. Who won’t be dictated to by inferiors who spout about an identity and an alignment throughout the club. 

It’s time for Manning to depart, in my opinion, but it’s also time for the club to drop the nonsense and stop acting like a billy big bollox. The club think that they have a clever way of doing things and that it’s the only way of separating themselves from the challenging division we are in. 
It’s not clever. It’s nonsense. Drop the bullcrap. 
 

The way to achieve success was evident to us a few years ago when a man called Steve Cotterill was appointed. I wasn’t his biggest fan when he got here, and I also think the time was right for him to go, but the period he was here, there is no denying that he’s been the only manager in recent years that’s done things his own way and said “balls” to the ownership and ‘model’. 
Cotterill worked with an experienced Chief Scout and identified the best available players and signed them to fit a way of playing that HE wanted. 
None of this “we’re all aligned from the u8’s to the tea lady”. 
Just an experienced manager with an experienced chief scout, putting together a squad that would play to the managers identity, not the clubs identity. 
 

It’s time to ditch the bullshit. 
Get out there and employ a manager with cahuna’s, one with a CV that demands respect from his players, let him bring in the players that HE wants, not players that the ‘club’ have targeted for the last few windows. Let him put his own team together to play the way that HE wants. 
 

The current model stinks. There are people in positions of authority that have real negative impact on this club who are not fit for purpose. 
We need a board of directors who can appoint a respected manager, who in turn will be empowered to bring in his own trusted recruitment team or chief scout, sign his own players and have zero meddling from unqualified  nobodies. 
 

Our model is shit. And we will get nowhere with it. 

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Fear it, run from it but he is inevitable 

Fun fact, they couldn’t care less.  And because of Big Steve’s great Bristol Sport balls up, I don’t see anyone riding to the rescue anytime soon.