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Very poor decision won it in the end, but I thought we were far too scrappy again. Lost count of the times we over ran a ball trying to dribble or let a ball bounce up through miscontrol. The pitch looked very poor, but Italy seemed to manage a lot better. VAR and a Ref loving the limelight grabbing the headlines again.

The Ref really wanted to give that, very theatrical announcement. And what's with giving the Ref an offside to look at ?

Now that was a centre backs shot

Ignoring Swansea he did ok, not great , but ok., One year 1 in 2 almost, then around 1 in 3. 25 in 74 in Serie A is none too shabby.

Got to feel your luck is in . Not only hits the post but misses the keeper on the way out. Good strike though.

There you go

They are a good footballing side, he will fit in nicely in that respect. I like him, technically very good, but crossing/final ball leaves a lot to be desired. His wages made the decision easy, his lack of stature and physicality too. Cam Pring pretty much sealed his fate with his performances, much more the sort of player Nige wants going forward. Another one we don't get any money back for, but hopefully one of the last.

Good scoring record ,21 in 48 for us . Must say I don't think I'd heard of him before.

They were moaning about the safety of their fans , which is a joke . A statement on Barnsley's official website read: "Barnsley Football Club is disappointed to learn that the English Football League (EFL) has reallocated the total amount of tickets for the Sky Bet League One Play-Off Final. "The EFL requested 6,000 of Barnsley FC's allocated tickets to be available to Sheffield Wednesday supporters in Tier 5 on Wednesday, which was opposed by the Club. "Whilst we acknowledge the reasons offered up in terms of the current sales totals of both clubs, the potential risk to our supporters was our main concern. However, the EFL are confident that the safety measures put in place are sufficient.

Apparently, though context is everything.

I turned over at full time to avoid hearing us being called "Bristol" and mentions of Dean "gAss Legend" Windass. A mate just Whatsapped this , I see what you mean. "Interviewer chatting to Josh Windass : what do you think your dad will say about that goal? Josh : he’s probably 6 Jàger bombs deep, so he won’t be saying a lot "

Well after a brilliant performance, can't help thinking that the keeper will feel he could have done better. Gets hands to it, going that way. Got to feel for him and it was a good header.

I doubt he knows

Bloody hell, that's a shank . Barnsley might regret that miss.

Brilliant defending, but how did Weds not score

Just looked and they sold out, plus two extra lots. If I've added it up right around 44,000 EDIT: Just read Barnsley sold over 20,000 and weren't happy with Weds getting so many .

Must be massively frustrating seeing your player get to the byline, make room and cross and no one even near the 6 yard box.

I try, I do try

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Great reply, and hard to argue with . The posts that annoy are ones that have said we shouldn't have employed XYZ without explanation or context. That's why I say each Manager could be explained away on an individual basis. Doesn't look great when you look over time and notice a pattern, or lack of one. Some of the problems, specially in hindsight may have been to do with Lansdown regularly being criticised for not being a football man. He does seem spikey and easily upset, not great traits for high level position, he would be used to obeyed without comeback. This may have lead to employing people he knew and trusted (Tins , Millen & Holden) , rather than go for someone with a reputation. The lack of "joined up thinking" or continuity I totally agree with as I mentioned in an earlier post. What I worry, is now we have got good foundations, SL doesn't give Nige a new contract and does try to be too clever . We should be working with Pearson to target the next Manager now, Give NP a new deal with an eye on a smooth transition to the next man. Nige has hinted he may not want too long in Management , so give him time to continue to build for this year , then ( as you say ) spend the time finding someone with similar ideas so you don't have whole sale changes with every new man. I believe that's one reason Hughton didn't get the job, he wanted basically a new squad. I think it is vital that we bring in players and Managers that fit the roles they are taking over, to eliminate the need to change anything just because a new face comes in. Time will tell, we are finally in a position that feels like a new start , I hope we can keep going in the right direction now.

Exactly what I said in my later post. The problem we had was for it to work , you have to have some semblance of success to build on. We seem to have been fighting fires for ages, until Cotts. Then ( without pointing fingers ) we were struggling again so LJ came in, and he never seemed to have any plan at all. I hope Steve has woken up to things, if he has then this could be the start of something. Otherwise it will be rinse and repeat.

The thing I've liked from many of these Clubs, they don't just get a new Manager and let him get on with things, they have a plan. It looks usual now among certain Clubs, a team has an overall plan and Managers and players have to fit into that Plan. A managers leaves ? Recruit someone that has the same philosophy . Player X is lost , bring in Player Y who has a similar style . It sounds obvious and basic, yet how many teams don't follows those simple rules ? Under LJ we completely lost direction, and it may not all have been his fault. The recruitment was scattergun, the board pandered to every request and the CEO lived for a deal, that is a nightmare scenario . Brentford bought with purpose, they brought in players for a position or role and they knew they would fit as they were most likely already doing a similar role. Us ? We brought wingers into a team that didn't play with wingers and then tried to fit them in. Now we finally look like we have a plan, and direction. We now need some good recruitment.

This gets me . While I'm not totally disagreeing with you, there is no magic formula for picking a (and this is the key word) successful Manager. You can go through all the appointments and say you wouldn't have chosen them, but there were reasons he should. There can be a case made for every Manager appointed by SL, whether they work or not comes later, but you can give a reason why they were all appointed. They didn't work out for various reasons, then you get to Steve Cotterill , not many wanted him but was a success. I seem to remember the phrase of the day was underwhelmed . this is where my argument gets wobbly...... Lee Johnson, Young & inexperienced but keen to learn, this could have worked by giving a Manager the time and guarantees to build the Club. Great idea, wrong choice of man possibly. Dean Holden , WTAF ? unfair on Holden. Nigel Pearson , never thought Steve would have the guts to employ a strong outspoken man. Looks like he made a good choice. I don't see arrogant managerial appointments, just managerial appointments. On a side note, and TBF to Lansdown, ( I almost hate to excuse this ) he had been told to get a football man to help him, sadly Ashton was that football man . The main criticism I can lay on SL is he has been too loyal. Too loyal to LJ, too loyal ( or believing) in Ashton. He's made plenty of mistakes, or alternatively, he's made plenty of decisions that we don't agree with (see Steve Cotterill), he'll probably make more. Simon Jordan is reported to have lost £40M at Palace, he was making decisions for the right reasons but they didn't work. Even Man U recently , different level but with their stature and money could just pick a winner. Someone has to make a choice, then they have to suck it up if it bites them in the ass. It is not an exact science.