Roe

I think this is actually a really interesting game, far more than it should be given our position as mid table side with the threat of being dragged into a relegation battle now eased.

I'm not sold on the narrative that we're actually really good against the better teams in the league, but this match should go someway to showing that a bit clearer one way or the other

Just all nonsense, isn't it?

"Don't get too high, don't get too low, emotional etc" more about processes than results yet says he was delighted and that we were outstanding against Swansea.

The week before against Cardiff, Mr Don't get too emotional was annoyed and angry apparently.

Says he's always learning. "OK so what have you changed after learning about the team?" "Well nothing the processes are still the same, right?"

I thought you were joking about the 7 Southampton mentions

I got to 4:34 til he mentioned Southampton and then had to stop

I'm not sure on what basis we look more solid defensively.

We've conceded 15% more goals per game since Manning took over, with only 3 clean sheets in 27 games, two of those games being absolute dross 0-0 draws against the worst form teams in the league at the time..

In 8 of those 27 games we've let in at least 2 as well

24 minutes ago, the1stknowle said:

But can you not make exactly the same argument the other way? Or you're saying while it's impossible from the outside to prove he is responsible/had a huge positive impact on anything good, we can definitively prove he is directly or largely responsible for the negative things.

Seems to me that it is that line of thinking which, to use your words, is convenient. 

Not really.  Depends what you mean by negative things.

It can be proven that his communication skills aren't that great by just listening to him speak.

It can be proven that he isn't particularly literate or professional, given that his own LinkedIn page still lists him as "Tecknical Director" among many other spelling errors. Best case scenario is someone with learning disabilities wrote it for him. Either way it's a bit of a red flag for me personally. Perhaps this is being picky; some people won't be bothered by this at all.

It can be proven that he has lied and repeatedly told delusional misinformation.

It can be proven that he's revealed undisclosed transfer details.

It can be proven that his first team coach, Liam Manning, hasn't improved the current squad, as stated he would, given how awful we've been in so many of his games.

I have absolutely no idea how good he is at scouting, or as being a director of recruitment, as I said. I can only go on what we know and can't help be sceptical given the facts.

9 minutes ago, the1stknowle said:

If you're not convinced, what would you need to see to think that since his involvement, the Academy set up has improved beyond all recognition? Just, as you say, that his communication improves and he stops being 'delusional'? And that would be more conclusive than, for example, significant increase in standard, first team contribution, and sale value of players produced by the Academy?

I think this kind of post is exactly what the OP is talking about when they say that Tins isn't being critiqued on the job that he is doing but instead, at least in part, on a set of OTIB talking points that have now come to be accepted truth on here (snake, grass, idiot, out of his depth, Lansdown yes man, delusional, self-aggrandising, can't string sentence together, blah). 

As I said, I'm not sure it can really be proven from the outside. Which is convenient seeing as he's apparently great at it.

There's no doubt that the academy has certainly improved in terms of first team contribution and player sales. How much of that is down to Tinnion is hard for any of us to really know I think.

I guess if you wanted proof, you'd need to speak to the players that have been brought through recently and the staff that have worked under him. I don't personally care to investigate that any further, but somebody probably should given its apparently earned him the role he's got now..

Nah.

I'm not at all convinced by this whole "great with the academy" stuff either. His communication is terrible and he seems pretty delusional.

Those are pretty big areas that I'd want to address in someone running a high level academy.

Seems pretty easy to claim he's great at something that can't be proven

4 minutes ago, Malago said:

You’re clutching at straws, he’s not going to walk away from a contract with more than 3 years to run.

Maybe but I'm just trying to imagine if I was in his position, I'd be concerned with the support available to me

Probably won't be because most football clubs are also badly run so I guess it's not as noticeable from the inside

If Manning has anything about him, he should be considering his own position imo. Imagine working for this lot

At least they're all working hard

7 hours ago, Malago said:

The FA youth Cup is hardly a bauble.  Chelsea, Man U, Man City and Liverpool are all multiple winners.

It would be a huge coup for the club to get to the final, unlikely as it is.

Look at the quality of the goals in the 2nd leg of last year’s final 

 

Indeed, but we're not in the final are we? So somewhat irrelevant what West Ham and Arsenal's under 18s look like.

Clearly they've done well to get to the semis and have beaten some decent teams to get there, but also worth noting that the quarter final win was against Swindon ffs.

7 hours ago, Malago said:

The FA youth Cup is hardly a bauble.  Chelsea, Man U, Man City and Liverpool are all multiple winners.

It would be a huge coup for the club to get to the final, unlikely as it is.

Look at the quality of the goals in the 2nd leg of last year’s final 

 

I think the lie about McKenna struggling at Ipswich to start with is what annoyed me the most out of this interview.

I had to look that up immediately and of course it's not even close to being true, and yet is said with such conviction. Same with almost everything else said

The delusion and lies all swirl together into half an hour of nonsense

Close to being done with this club

The Lies of Brian

How far off play offs?

With Manning being performance and process orientated, presumably he'll be as annoyed and angry as he was with the Cardiff game after this equally boring and frustrating afternoon?

Main positive is at least we don't have to watch Swansea every week

2 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Mehmeti made that goal in fairness

With the work to make space for the goal yes but it's only Sykes that's caused a problem from open play allowing for there to be a threat

Sykes the only player to actually make any difference to our attack

Oooh an actual chance

That Rob Dickie "effort" is our first of the game..

Just now, MelksRed said:

Ref pulls the game back taking away our advantage (if there was in fact one)

Good decision I think given that Dickie was down hurt off the pitch. If we lost the ball a few seconds later, we'd be at a big disadvantage

Just now, Midred said:

Is it only city committing fouls or is the ref overlooking theirs?

You normally have the have the ball to get fouled

How can you make no changes at all after that first half?